Apollo Series LED panels from Cidly
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nice! thanks for your feedback!
Psytranceorgy
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some more answers from Mr. Lee at Cidly for your consideration:
To the 5W LEDs, the higher the input Voltage in the single LEDs, the more difficult to control the output Voltage. If their input current is only 630Am, it is hard to get a 5W LEDs, you see: 5W/0.63=7.93V, very unreasonable.
We still have not got the 5W LED Grow light technology yet, it depends on lots of new breakthrough, especially the heat, inner circuit board...
It is my pleasure to discuss the technology about the LED lights.
Best Regards,
Sing
Anyways, just giving you guys some more info here... it's pretty likely that I will order a custom Apollo 12 working with Sing @ Cidly, and I will certainly let you guys know how that goes should that happen... It will be a minute before I get up and running with another grow though...
I noticed that another member here PrezDickie is using a 'Blackstar Chrome' from Gotham Hydro... His light is looking identical to the Apollos... so looks like Gotham is testing/moving to that platform as well (these 'chrome' models are not on Lighthouse or Gotham website 'yet' )... Anyways, check out his grow for more pictures and follow along over there for what would probably be similar performance (though the spectrum is different, and it is entirely possible that Gotham Blackstar Chromes have altered input current/Voltage/other design features as well)...
Anyways, it looks like the Gotham 'Blackstar Chrome' Apollo panel has:
4 660
8 630
2 blue
1 white
for each 15-LED module...
To the 5W LEDs, the higher the input Voltage in the single LEDs, the more difficult to control the output Voltage. If their input current is only 630Am, it is hard to get a 5W LEDs, you see: 5W/0.63=7.93V, very unreasonable.
We still have not got the 5W LED Grow light technology yet, it depends on lots of new breakthrough, especially the heat, inner circuit board...
It is my pleasure to discuss the technology about the LED lights.
Best Regards,
Sing
Anyways, just giving you guys some more info here... it's pretty likely that I will order a custom Apollo 12 working with Sing @ Cidly, and I will certainly let you guys know how that goes should that happen... It will be a minute before I get up and running with another grow though...
I noticed that another member here PrezDickie is using a 'Blackstar Chrome' from Gotham Hydro... His light is looking identical to the Apollos... so looks like Gotham is testing/moving to that platform as well (these 'chrome' models are not on Lighthouse or Gotham website 'yet' )... Anyways, check out his grow for more pictures and follow along over there for what would probably be similar performance (though the spectrum is different, and it is entirely possible that Gotham Blackstar Chromes have altered input current/Voltage/other design features as well)...
Anyways, it looks like the Gotham 'Blackstar Chrome' Apollo panel has:
4 660
8 630
2 blue
1 white
for each 15-LED module...
jubiare
Active Member
you know what, until you actually start diying yourself, which you might do anyway soner or later
or until you have really seen this technology gone far and behind, so you can really trust a company and their prices
you are prob better off buying off a manufacture? so no inflated prices and all?
you can always sell it in a year whatever you decide to do , maybe buy a real good panel with high components and all
I mean, yeah play with apollo from Cidly why not!
Maybe just play with the spectrum a bit, ask gotham as well.. get your head around it
and maybe ask them if they could drive the reds softer? and if only got a choice between 700 and 630, I'd say go for 630
again, come back here and discuss it, if you like, before you pull the trigger.
Best of luck
or until you have really seen this technology gone far and behind, so you can really trust a company and their prices
you are prob better off buying off a manufacture? so no inflated prices and all?
you can always sell it in a year whatever you decide to do , maybe buy a real good panel with high components and all
I mean, yeah play with apollo from Cidly why not!
Maybe just play with the spectrum a bit, ask gotham as well.. get your head around it
and maybe ask them if they could drive the reds softer? and if only got a choice between 700 and 630, I'd say go for 630
again, come back here and discuss it, if you like, before you pull the trigger.
Best of luck
richinweed
Active Member
with all that led power u may just wanna chuck those cfls in the livingroom lamp were they belong.
ghettorigger
Member
I use the apollo series and i have been selling em around a bit. I designed a 5 band model that works great. I pulled the same results that I had gotten in the same room with a 600w hps. The leds are from a company called EPILED, no complaints atvall about them. They are made in Taiwan, just like Cree, bridgelux, and another's name brands.. I sell the panels at a $50 dollar markup from what it costs me to get them over here and they are cheaper than a blackstar and perform twice as good. They run very cool., closed up with no aircon my room capped at 95 degrees with a temperature of 80 in the room. So very little energy was wasted by producing heat. I would recommend these to anybody prospecting for an led panel. They are very worth it. Plus I use uv cfls instead of putting uv on the panel which does a bunch towards cost and not wasting led power.
I
also another thing I would add is that my first customer after his first full cycle came back and replaced all of his HPS with these in all of his grows. He said that his power bill probably was cut in half now that he doesn't run multiple blowers and air conditioning. And he priced it out and with me not marking up much at all, his cost to set up a new room was less due to a smaller aircon unit being installed as well as not needing 4 1000cfm blowers and insulated ducting. Fruit for thought.
I
also another thing I would add is that my first customer after his first full cycle came back and replaced all of his HPS with these in all of his grows. He said that his power bill probably was cut in half now that he doesn't run multiple blowers and air conditioning. And he priced it out and with me not marking up much at all, his cost to set up a new room was less due to a smaller aircon unit being installed as well as not needing 4 1000cfm blowers and insulated ducting. Fruit for thought.
Psytranceorgy
Well-Known Member
Hey this is awesome info ghettorigger, thanks! It's great to hear from someone who has actual experience =D
FYI guys here is more information that I received back from Mr. Lee @ Cidly in response to my inquires about 5W LEDs... I thought it was good info about the "5W LEDs" found in grow panels being sold by many companies...
...so called 5W LEDs. They are packaged with four cores(Blue 1W) or six cores(Red 1W) and then run as 4W or 5W. You should ask them if their 5W LEDs are single core or multiple-core, if they are the latter, you should aviod them.
Based on our test or even based on a general principle we can deduce that multiple-core LEDs are very unstable, the likelihood of getting problem can be multiple. You see, if one core gets problem, the whole Chip will not work. This is the main reason why those offer 90x2W UFO or other dual-core LED grow lights got so many problems.
Wish you have a great weekend.
Best Regards,
Sing
FranJan
Well-Known Member
I'm going to have a conversation this week with my contact at LED Star so I'll get into it with him on exactly how they produce their "5 Watt" diodes. I'm pretty sure they're dual diode 2x3 watt diodes running at 2 watts each. Some diodes might be singles but I doubt it. Maybe I'll post some emails if Psy doesn't mind.
PSUAGRO.
Well-Known Member
Damn typical Stoner memory........I was wrong...ha
Psytranceorgy
Well-Known Member
I don't mind at all! good stuff Fran... anything that helps the community understand these damn LEDs better =D
FranJan
Well-Known Member
Yeah I know what you mean about "damn LEDs" Psy 
.
Well I tried to get some more specifics and my reply was this:
"It is good to know there are lots of interest in U.S.A. on the 5x60W. Yes, it is definitely true 5watt LEDs diodes. It is made of 2pcs 3W LEDs diodes. But you know, different color diodes has different size. You can check with the pictures attached,it will be better for the explanation.
Thank you. Looking forward to your reply."
So he kind of contradicts himself here but I may have confused him since his English is not that great. I tried to get specific measurements of the 5 watt diode's size, but he may have thought I meant something else. So they're two piece "Epis", with each diode running at about 2 watts each. So lots of light cheap but not a lot of efficiency and a little too much heat. Still they work in my situation and I'm probably going to go for another one though there are some other panels I'm looking at.
.Well I tried to get some more specifics and my reply was this:
"It is good to know there are lots of interest in U.S.A. on the 5x60W. Yes, it is definitely true 5watt LEDs diodes. It is made of 2pcs 3W LEDs diodes. But you know, different color diodes has different size. You can check with the pictures attached,it will be better for the explanation.
Thank you. Looking forward to your reply."
So he kind of contradicts himself here but I may have confused him since his English is not that great. I tried to get specific measurements of the 5 watt diode's size, but he may have thought I meant something else. So they're two piece "Epis", with each diode running at about 2 watts each. So lots of light cheap but not a lot of efficiency and a little too much heat. Still they work in my situation and I'm probably going to go for another one though there are some other panels I'm looking at.
Psytranceorgy
Well-Known Member
^ ^ ^ L I K E ! ! !
Thanks for that Fran! very informative, and I'm glad to see that panel is working for you! good luck and happy growing my friend =D
Thanks for that Fran! very informative, and I'm glad to see that panel is working for you! good luck and happy growing my friend =D
squarefodder
Active Member
how much is their apollo8?
Psytranceorgy
Well-Known Member
you can get an Apollo 8 for the price of a Blackstar240
The Lurker
Member
Psytranceorgy
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lol go to www.cidly.com and chat with someone
hölynpöly
Member
Hello. I tried to chat with them but they refused to tell me their prizes. They wanted my email address. This was kind of strange??
Why sell something when they dont tell you the prize. I was interested in the Apollo4 or Apollo6. Do you know how much those cost?
Why sell something when they dont tell you the prize. I was interested in the Apollo4 or Apollo6. Do you know how much those cost?