captainmorgan
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GG,did you ever check to see if there was any noticeable difference in leaf ratio's on the colas between the two sides?
Apache AT600 led vs 1000w HPS Blue Dream Grow
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Greengenes707
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Yes I have...
The flowers themselves are about the same...
But the led has more major fan leaves. I thing that has to do with the led having more terminal/head colas. And some early thinning could have effected things too.
Also, the secondary/hash leaves on the led are covered in like 2 layers of trichs. Hps is good, but normal good.
hyroot
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natural co2 via air exchange may be 400 ppms. Its a constant 400ppms. Plus when plants wake up they breathe in 4 times as much from the co2 the plants put out while sleeping. I used to run co2 with a tank and monitor. I never saw much difference vs via air exchange. With the tank. Maybe more trichomes. (hps ). I didn't increase o2 levels at that time either. If I did, the added co2 may have been more beneficial. Outside o2 is 20,000 ppms. Then nitrogen is 450,000 ppms and argon is 800 ppm's. There may be an entourage effect on plants.
Greengenes707
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So how come everyone who runs a properly put together room with CO2 doesn't have O2 tanks to compensate that.
The plants are more than fine with the normal o2 levels...
While co2 is a whole difference story. They don't need both to be proportionally increase. Just CO2 does the trick.
The plants are more than fine with the normal o2 levels...
While co2 is a whole difference story. They don't need both to be proportionally increase. Just CO2 does the trick.
captainmorgan
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Mine may be more noticeable because this is probably my sixth generation of the cut under LED and his cut is one less gen under HPS,I've read that they can adapt to their environment.
foreverflyhi
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How r u planning on keeping track of ppm GG?
natro.hydro
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It is not that hard to work it out for math, there is a sticky to a site where you enter the dimensions of your grow and it tells you the flow rate to set your regulator at. That is what I was doing when I had my tank going, trying without this last time to see if that extra 20 bucks a week is worth it.
foreverflyhi
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Done that before and later found out i was wasting alot of co2 because of small cracks in my room, and other factors, like hood openings.
Patch my room/hoods and purchased a chh4 and never looked back, plus its cool to see constant update in your enviroment.
Having a proper reading will def save you alot of money
Greengenes707
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I have some time and am building it up little by little. Everything will be in place by the time it's needed.
I will probably go all the way and get a full controller...
http://monstergardens.com/Climate-Controllers/CO2-Products/CO2-Controllers?product_id=1926
But I want fuzzy logic if I can so I don't know what to do.
I will probably go all the way and get a full controller...
http://monstergardens.com/Climate-Controllers/CO2-Products/CO2-Controllers?product_id=1926
But I want fuzzy logic if I can so I don't know what to do.
foreverflyhi
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Yo GG did u ever mention whats on the next line up? And also curious if you ever grow from seed?
Greengenes707
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Dream again if I can get some clones taken soon enough. I might try to find the source again...but I would rather do my own that has been in my methods for a run. If not might get the blackberry I did the run before. So strong it would be worth it if I can't do the big yielding dream. And it's way more unique than dream. But dream is the plan for now.
I have grown from bean outdoors for 10 years. Indoors just a few runs...and only as an apprentice when I was younger. I personally think that beans yield more than a clone of it would. But consistency is a key for things around here. Can't show up with a few phenos...Only one and a unit or more of it.
I just popped a few Blue Frost(platinum cookies x blueberry desiel). I will grow it out outdoors but then take some cuts and do some indoors.
I'm thinking 4x8 of one strain... then a light worth of mixed genetics for some variety.
earthling420
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I too can't wait to try a special select of others to grow, and also dial in my 2 current strains after a few runs. Both endeavours will be exciting. Crazy how some people grow the same strain forever!
Blue frost sounds beautiful lol
How does your outdoor quality compare to your indoor?
kmog33
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Damn 742 watts. I thought it ran at 600. They need to make and at 400 or something haha.
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Greengenes707
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Ya, it's a beast of a unit. It's 4 at200 in one. And with a great price break. Basically 500$/at200. Ya it's in one unit, as opposed to 4 individuals...some say that is good, others say they like mobility. But a big enough unit and I don't see the problem myself, hps does just fine with a big ass hood.
Nope. it's more than 600w. Mine is running 685w and 2.9amps on 240v.
Which is why and how it can compete with hps.
kmog33
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Thats sweet i had just been under the impression it was 600 so i was surprised at the video. Does it actually weigh 60 pounds?
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give me a single, powerful light anyday, I quit adjusting multiple lights a decade ago, just sayin
captainmorgan
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I always liked the idea of multiple smaller lights,one has trouble and your still in business. If you have one light and it goes out your in the dark.
hyroot
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plus 60 lbs is alot of weight to hang in a tent or from a stud.. of course I would add extra chains and what not incase one gave way
captainmorgan
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Yea,you wouldn't want to hang one of those in a ebay tent.