Anyone using the Xen-Lux 135w 6th Gen 7 band 3w LED???

UVRay

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Guys,

I just got a 135w LED grow lamp, it may be here tomorrow if I'm lucky. I wanted to see if anyone has gotten one of these or the larger 270w unit they have on ebay.

This is the 6th generation LED according to the ad, it has 45 x 3w LEDs so they should have decent penetration. It uses both 90 and 120 degree lamps. The specs seem very good, they list the spectrum as:
Red @ 660nm
Red @ 630nm
Blue @ 430nm
BLue @ 460nm
White @ 12K
UV @ 390nm
Far Red IR @ 850nm

the LEDs are from BridgeLux and High Power Opto.

I got the unit for $95.00 shipped, they are a Buy-It-Now for $148.00 so I hope I got a good deal.

This is going to supplement my 400w HPS, I also have a several 68w and 32w 2700k large CFLs with reflectors which add side light.

Currently I've got a Chem Dawg 5 weeks into flower, she's taller than me now (2.5 months old) and there are about 6-8 main colas that should end up a few feet long or more each plus dozens of side bud colas as well. It's huge and slap full of buds, my grow closet is full top to bottom with this plant. I'm sure hoping the addition of the LED will promote some serious bud generation beyond what I've got now.

I'm thinking this single Chem Dog plant may yield a solid 8oz as is, hoping the LED will pack on some more weight before harvest. At 5 weeks bloom, the buds are covered in fat trikes that is very promising.
 

UVRay

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Oh yea, I forgot to ask about how close you can run these 3w LEDs from the plants? I've heard of some bleaching if too close, so what is the consensus on how far/close should these higher power LEDs be from the canopy?
 

fcp999

Member
I ordered mine yesterday, got it for $96 (ebay -mixwholesale). Been using PAR38 24W LEDs ($38 Home Depot) They are focused, so I back them off to 24" for better light spread. I have run them at 6" (at 3" you feel the heat). Remember almost all LED units are under driven and run at about 2/3 power so this is really ~90W. And this one looks like it is more oriented towards veg, you may want to look for one with a lot more of a red focus.
 

Smokenpassout

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Yes I am currently using one of these. It works good and I love that the one big fan is surprisingly quiet. I am using it to flower my tops, while still using 300 actual watts of warm 2700k cfl's. I have this light suspended at 11" above my tops and the girl is responding well. I could maybe go closer, but I aint taking chaces. Like the other dude said this light is more for vegging. I bought it to get some overhead light during flower though. So thats why I am running the cfl's also. This light is very purpleish or in the vegging spectrum. My next LED will be magenta for flowering, or a supplimental all red one.
 

UVRay

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thanks guys, my light arrived yesterday afternoon, took only 2.5 days from auction close/payment to delivery, got mine from mix-wholesale too!! I plugged it up and all the LEDs are firing thank goodness, it's pretty damn bright too. Seems well built, I wish there was a on and off switch though. Mine's got the 4.5" fan and while not silent, it's not loud either, probably like a computer PS fan running. Doesn't seem to generate much heat either. That's a big thing for me as I don't have separate climate control in my grow tent.

I like the idea that this particular light has the wide but focused bands of light, specifically, the far red IR and the UV wavelengths. I suspect that most artificial gardens suffer from not enough IR and UV light. I had some UV boost with a Reptile UV CFL but I know it wasn't enough, nice to see this one has it too. Resin is created to protect the plant form UV Rays so it makes sense that proper UV light will help boost resin output. MH bulbs generate decent UV but honestly, only is the safety glass is removed as it filters UV, they are rarely used in flowering but really are helpful in the final weeks of flowering...

I know this lamp leans more spectrum towards vegging and that's OK, I'm supplementing my 400w HPS, a 4x2' T5 mixed and some CFL spirals also mixed. I think I've got the spectrum covered pretty well now and I feel that I'm probably close to 800-1000w combined output now. My closet tent is pretty small, only a 4'x2' but it's 84" tall and I'm using every inch of vertical so I need several lights in different spots to illuminate the entire plant. I'm sure I can use the new LED lamp to boost the T5 lamp set to get the Veg cycle happening and then use it with with the HPS as well for flowering. It's small, ductless and light enough to be easily moveable, especially compared to my T5 unit or the HID.

Time will tell how much I like it, the price was just too good to pass on, that's as good a deal as I've found on useable LED systems.
 

UVRay

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It's only been a few days using the new LED light but I can attest it runs very, very cool and it frikkin bright! I'm running it along with a 400w HPS, four 2' T-5 lamps and several CFLs. The penetration from the LED is pretty strong, I can see the purplish light well down into the canopy, tinting the plants even with all that white light so it's gotta be doing its job. The larger 3w lamps have decent punch and penetration and I'm confident the PAR value is high and well focused.

To be honest, I'm thinking ahead and am considering adding a few more of these lights to possibly replace the 400w unit completely at some point in time. I'm thinking that as small as these lights are I could set one one its side as well as up top, maybe have more than one on the sides illuminating under the canopy which is even a problem with strong HPS lamps. I'm going to have to experiment with this lamp and see how well my next batch of seedlings react to this light compared to std. lights.

I tend to grow fewer taller plants rather than scrogging, I don't have a lot of room in the closet so I need to take advantage of the vertical room. Right now the closet if full top to bottom.
 

dafaro

Member
Any update on these 7-band UFO lights from mix-wholesale? I am considering buying one or two to supplement my 400w hps and another Chinese 300w LED.
 

cannabiscultivation

Active Member
I brought in three plants on em ..about 25 grams of nice bud each.
I noticed I can move a plant outside without any stress.
so the LEDs must be close to sunlight or they would wilt out upon moving them.
I now have 3 300s though...they are definitely double the output.
I'm ribbonprinting on ebay...I'll sell you one of my 135s for 90 shipped. used


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SnotBoogie

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Seems odd that they include 830nm IR light (invisible to plants IIRC) unless that is meant to say 730nm (far red)

Also, Those wavelength of "UV" LED are not actually in the UV region.
 

SnotBoogie

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UVB "in theory" increases trich production.

Its just a theory as of yet really mate. There isnt any solid evidence beyond anecdotal that i have seen (though i do "believe" it myself).

I would also do some reading on the forumz before you go splashing on an expensive UVB lamp. some are useless, all are dangerous. Remember that you are introducing a nasty health hazard to your grow room - and im not saying "dont do it", just do your research and understand what precautions are neccessary..
 

dafaro

Member
I was able to get a new one for 95. But I like your set up cultivation. Do you use just LEDs? I think I see some white light in the corner.

I have been thinking about what light combos would be best.
 

dafaro

Member
Wait, 3 x 25g on just the one UFO?

Also, I bet what you point out with the transition outdoors implies the UV is in some way similar enough to sunlight. I think the UV is what plants need to harden off to when moved outdoors.
 

cannabiscultivation

Active Member
I was able to get a new one for 95. But I like your set up cultivation. Do you use just LEDs? I think I see some white light in the corner.

I have been thinking about what light combos would be best.
I came up on some new energetic 17 watt spots as soon as I got interested in this. I use them through out. switch.

Wait, 3 x 25g on just the one UFO?

Also, I bet what you point out with the transition outdoors implies the UV is in some way similar enough to sunlight. I think the UV is what plants need to harden off to when moved outdoors.
it works it seems.

just led
 
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