anyone usin a Dwc???

Ok, i was thinkin about it, and im not sure im gonna yet, but i might pick up a DwC ish system.
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But i need to know, is 4 gallons for 4 plants enough when it comes to hydro systems?? i know absolutely nothing about them yet, and i really want to get the absolute BEST outta the seeds i ordered, and then be able to clone them no problem over n over, n once again get the best results. Can somebody who is hydro-fluent take a look at the item and tell me if its ideal or a piece of shit for growin 8 plants to their "full" potential indoors??

Thanks,

K1.

O, n if i NEEDED to absolutely NEEDED to, i could probably afford to get the official DwC system - not the drip but the original DwC 8 system - but i dont have room for the Ebb Flow system. grow tent is hydrohut mini 2x4x5 and i need to maximize all space i can.

i got something similar when i started DWC. it was great for a while.....it has pre-made holes for example, but once the plants start to grow the roots are going to grow too. they grow a lot, at least 2x the height of the plant in length.
So I had to get something else, so i went to walmart and bought a 10gal+ Tupperware storage bin with a lid for like $6. then i cust holes for the pots in the lid and thats it!

Don't pay $100 for a smaller system, just take the time to cut a few circles out.

I wish I had.

but heres my problem - i only have 5 feet of grow height in my tent,and 10 inches of that will be taken up by my lighting. So basically i can only have 4ft' of grow space heightwise. I may do a ScrOG grow, but i cant decide wether i wanna do soil or hydro. The growbags im using would definitely take up more space than a DwC would, unless i bought the rubbermaid 10gal bucket, then that would take up more height.

Im just one confused motherfucker, lol. This is only my second grow, so im just trying to get the best quality grow out of the dank seeds i bought, with the restricted space i have.

Now, i know this is a bit of a dumb question here, but as far as which produces better quality pot, the answer would be hydro, no?

I mean, i know that most of the kind buds floating around that everyone calls hydro(because its sticky crystalized ass green with no seeds,n tastes fruity) is 70% of the time soil grown, but just how big is the difference between hydro and soil??

You need about 4 -5 gallons of capacity for each plant for DWC, at least to flower in, you can get by with less if you grow small plants and keep them under a foot tall.

I bought that exact system, it works but I would'nt grow 4 plants in it. I eventually transferred them to waterfarm buckets. Save $$$ and make a DWC with a bigger res.

bah, im tired of tiny plants, lol. I want some big fuckin sweltering bastards. But the space i have is the problem, and it fuckin sucks man. I ordered a tent that was small cuz of the space i thought i would be limited to, but it turns out that im actually gonna end up with an extra foot in every direction, which in the long run woulda made all the difference.

2x4x5 tent. If i get a rubbermaid tub and cut 6 or 8 holes in it, do you think i should be able to get some nice sized plants? more importantly, do you think i should get some monster nuggets??

Another big question i have is the actual medium itself. I know people swear by hydro just like others swear by soil, and im torn between the two. I dont know what to do, because i want big buds outta my hard work, but i also wanna be efficient with the limitations that i have put on myself unfortunately for now. So If i were to stick with soil, ill be able to do 8 plants for sure, but will the quality suffer, or is the only thing that will change is the time itll take from seed to harvest??

also, where can i get hooked up with detailed specs on how to make my own DwC tub for 8 plants. I really wanna do 8 but if i have to do 6 due to the room i have, ill cope with that, considering itll take way less time to grow than soil would, plus i would be working with clones too in a veg chamber so i can have a plants workin constantly (perpetual grow style - harvest every month if i do it right)

I did find THIS system - you think it would be ok to use from seed to harvest n still produce monster nuggets??

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DONT WASTE YOUR MONEY ON A KIT! Make your own. All you gotta do to make a DWC system is get a bucket or somthing that hold water and has a lid. Then cut holes in the lid for however many plants you want. After that you have to get some net pots (pots that have a bunch of slits/holes in them for the roots to go through) and put them in the holes. Bam system done. I would recommend adding an air pump inside of the water though to increase oxygen and help fungus and stuff from growing. As for medium there are alot to choose from, clay pellets, rockwool (not recommended for dwc unless its just a starter plug), perlite, vermicule, etc. There are alot of threads on here about growing mediums. Look at them and see which one suits you best.

Also make sure that your bucket is light proof. Light+water equals bacteria and mold and stuff you dont want in your system. Quality of the bud does not really vary much between soil and hydro, some people say that soil tastes better but i think it is relativly the same if you flush properly and organic nutes help taste i have heard as well. Just grow it correctly and you wont be dissapointed.

That system you just posted consists of buckets (like 3 bucks a piece) netpots (3 dollars total) an air pump (10 dollars) and some tubing (few dollars). Could be made for like 25 to 50 bucks at THE MAX!

I know what your sayin man, n i wanna be able to make my own too - its just as a first timer with dro, i would much rather have somebody elses prefabbed one and see how one works made by a pro, and then when i move out, hook up my own system on a grand scale. Even though im a budget buyer, i would rather spend the cash once to see how its done the right way, and then do up one 10 times bigger myself, already seeing first hand how one is SUPPOSED to work, rather than reading instructions and makin one on my own without seeing a finished product in person working, for reference.

Lol, this shows that i AM a n00b when it comes to hydro, n im cool with that, but i wanna do a couple more grows between now n february(when im moving), and dro seems to be the way to accomplish that. So What im askin is, is the system from the link in my last post adequate enough for a 6 plant grow? the buckets are big enough to grow some nice sized plants, that will produce some big nuggets??

I agree, DWC has got to be about the easiest system to DIY. Find a tub that fits your space, cut some holes and you're set. Or, do what I did. Go to the grow shop, tell them what you want and walk away with it.

My advice about soil vs hydro? Try them both, then decide for yourself, only way you're going to be sure. Personally, I don't want dirt in my clean room, and I don't want the hassle of getting rid of it when each crop is complete.

im doin soil right now, and i like it just fine, n i was even gonna do it again until i remembered that dro finishes about a month sooner than soil would if i remember right. N the drip system that im thinkin about buyin IMO fits what im tryin to do better than a one tub DwC system would, but im not a proffesional by any standards when it comes to growing yet.

So, is that drip system gonna be adequate enough or what??

Those buckets in your link are 2 gallon buckets. For big plants you need about 4-5 gallon buckets per plant. I know where you comming from just wanting to get the kit but honestly, most any kit you buy you will replace and or upgrade anyway. For instance the 2 gallon pots, and the weak ass 66 gallon per hour pump thus, costing you even more than if you were to just make it. Plus if you make it yourself then it is also more on the down low. You can get all the parts at home depot or walmart. The fuzz wont be looking for growers at home depot lol.

Make DWC yourself, get Eight 5 gallon buckets with lids, get eight 4" net pots. cut net pot sized hole in each bucket lid. add 2 airstones to each bucket and connect to air pumps. fill bucket 75% full of water, at least 2 inches below bottom of pots. You might need to cover the outside of bucket to keep any light out.

This setup will cost less than $50 worth of parts you can get at the hardware/wal-mart/k-mart/sears store.