Anyone used Amblyseius fallacis?

Dr. Who said:

Forbid in application concentration.... You could drink it and have less reaction then a type 2 diabetic to his Metaformin prescription!

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Wow yet will you..i doubt it...so why even say it


Ya i cant find that tox report yet.

But i did include a toxicity to humans outcome on another post from another study


I know not very composed...im on my phone

Dude you know they are not safe, yet you still claim they are. Stop scaling. They all dangerious in the hands up the misinformed...and saying they are safe outnof a comparision to more dangerious products is 100% misrepresentation.

rustyshaclkferd said:

Wow yet will you..i doubt it...so why even say it

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Yes, and I have in a lecture.

Thats a great article. I have malathion PTSD..no more blood draws please

I still disagree that it excludes translocator but seems i may have to rethink how i explain translaminar

rustyshaclkferd said:

But i did include a toxicity to humans outcome on another post from another study


I know not very composed...im on my phone

Dude you know they are not safe, yet you still claim they are. Stop scaling. They all dangerious in the hands up the misinformed...and saying they are safe outnof a comparision to more dangerious products is 100% misrepresentation.

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Cool on the report shared.

Gottcha on the phone thing.

"They" ??? I defend spiromesifen - when used at 8 drops per gallon for treating mites.

I also spoke of Spinosad being "safe"

Toxicity: May cause eye irritation, but other wise non-toxic to humans. Spinosad is not acutely toxic to birds, wildlife or fish.

Dr. Who said:

Cool on the report shared.

Gottcha on the phone thing.

"They" ??? I defend spiromesifen - when used at 8 drops per gallon for treating mites.

I also spoke of Spinosad being "safe"

Toxicity: May cause eye irritation, but other wise non-toxic to humans. Spinosad is not acutely toxic to birds, wildlife or fish.

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Ah see what you did their...

So the toxicty in Ficher rats... means nothing?

rustyshaclkferd said:

Thats a great article. I have malathion PTSD..no more blood draws please

I still disagree that it excludes translocator but seems i may have to rethink how i explain translaminar

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Malathion - One of the greatest "NASTY'S" ever created.....

I run an organic farm co-op Rusty.
My experience runs far deeper.

Not fighting you, just trying to clear some things up.....

Dr. Who said:

Malathion - One of the greatest "NASTY'S" ever created.....

I run an organic farm co-op Rusty.
My experience runs far deeper.

Not fighting you, just trying to clear some things up.....

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Oh i can tell. I don't run an organic co-op but i am part of a community reform program with a organic farm. Reclaimed dead space where i live.

I also am responsible for safe applications of chemicals as part of a socioeconimocal and sustainedble IPM program as well as the training of others to do the same. For myncurrwnt farm and the previous a much bigger horticulture facility

Dr. Who said:

Malathion - One of the greatest "NASTY'S" ever created.....

I run an organic farm co-op Rusty.
My experience runs far deeper.

Not fighting you, just trying to clear some things up.....

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I get what you are saying and where we disagree is basically mostly perspective and you re educated me on some chemical specific characteristics as well.

And i know im being a bit obtuse, maybe alot, when i describe a zero or all kind of safety rating.


Its just in the past 10 years IPM has shifted gears from old pest management techniques of hit em with it all to lets use what works and whats sustainable.

These chemcials still have negatives for all their positives, Spiromesifen is still bad for aquatic life and it has known toxicity to mammals...yadda yadda , so when describing something as safe for me its not a scale of we are here - to - it could be worse.

This is why i preach bio safe insecticides beneficial biologicals and less and less traditional insecticides

rustyshaclkferd said:

I get what you are saying and where we disagree is basically mostly perspective and you re educated me on some chemical specific characteristics as well.

And i know im being a bit obtuse, maybe alot, when i describe a zero or all kind of safety rating.

https://toxnet.nlm.nih.gov/cgi-bin/sis/search/a?dbs+hsdb>:(term+@DOCNO+7882

Its just in the past 10 years IPM has shifted gears from old pest management techniques of hit em with it all to lets use what works and whats sustainable.

These chemcials still have negatives for all their positives, Spiromesifen is still bad for aquatic life and it has known toxicity to mammals...yadda yadda , so when describing something as safe for me its not a scale of we are here - to - it could be worse.

This is why i preach bio safe insecticides beneficial biologicals and less and less traditional insecticides

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AH! I see you found "toxnet" Very complete info on that site!

Big hug Rusty!