Anyone Tried LowBerry?

sir smokesalot

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Has anyone had experience with LowBerry? Looks like a good breed for very limited space but still getting nice size buds.

Any thoughts?
 

gogrow

confused
havent tried it, but i want to try some of mdanzig's autoflowers. do you know where to order his seeds from that ships to the u.s?
 

Blaze happy

Active Member
Quick question, im planning to try 4-5 different autoflowering strains, but with my first batches, ill be breeding each strain for seeds.

I hear that this is fine for LR & LR2, but im concerned about breeding the new crosses popping up. Some say wait a few generations as they are unstable - what does this mean? May some seeds loose their autoflowering traits?

If i breed a lowberry male with a lowberry female wont i get 100% autoflowering lowberry seeds, or is their more to it. Im quite the noob in the area of genitics.

Im interested in the following strains:

Lowryder #2
Diesel ryder

Little Red Ryder Hood > description > Little Red Ryder Hood is a full auto flowering red skunk hair exclusive to dutchbreed, we took a lowryder male and crossed it with a old school skunk red hair then inbred them until we got auto flowering strains, Little Red Ryder Hood is ideal for stealth growing as it has very little odor wile growing only smelling strong when touched or pulled apart, very nice heavy old school stone with the giggles

LowBerry > description > LowBerry is a FULL AUTO flowering blueberry exclusive to dutchbreed, LowBerry is a cross of Dutch passion blueberry mother and a Joint Doctor lowryder male then inbred, gives the best of both smelling more blueberry than the original and full auto flowering can be grown under 24 hours continuous light stays short like LR2 and Masterlow bigger than LR1.

LowMaster > description > LowMaster is a cross of Master Kush (Dutch Passion) crossed with Lowryder (Joint Doctor), inbred repeatedly untill the master kusk had truned auto. This cross is sure to satisfy, as you will notice a strong Kush presence, with the plant 100% auto-flowering. You will also see lots of resin production, plants will finish with medium height, and yield.

The last three can be found at Auto flowering cannabis seeds

So is there any issues i should be aware about reguarding breeding each strain for seeds??

I keep hearing the word unstable, what does this mean? Im guessing that it means some traits may not be passed down, while a stable plant passes on all its traits????

Thanks in advance!
 

Blaze happy

Active Member
From my understanding (which i undersatand is most likely quite wrong, lol), wouldnt breeding say an AUTO flowering lowberry male with an AUTO flowering lowberry female, just strengthen the AUTO flowering genes???

And if im being sold auto flowering lowberry seeds, wouldnt the autoflowering genes be quite strong already??

Please help!
 

sir smokesalot

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cool i'm glad someone searched this thread and is posting to it:mrgreen: if you breed two different types of LR crosses will wont have any problem getting autoflower seeds. Its only if you cross a LR and a non autoflowering variety that you will get some auto flowering seeds and some regular.

the LR crosses are already bred to the point that you will garanteed to get auto flowering seeds the vast majority of the time. but crossing with a regular sativa for instance is going to give you all the different variations of combining the two plants genes so some plants will auto flower but be taller than the others, or some of the plants may retain the gene responsible for the short stature but not get the auto flower gene. its just like genetics when we deal with people...

if two small people have a baby the odds are much better that they will have a small child, where as if a tall person and a small person have a child he has the genetic potential to be either. its the same idea with plants.

now when people talk about a strain being stable it means that it has been bred over many generations to have very specific genes that will be replicated in every seed, so that all seeds grown from the same bud are consistently the same. ...does that make sense? im high right now so forgive me if its confusing:blsmoke:

the strains i want to try are lowberry and masterlow... and maybe diesel ryder
 

piFFstAr407

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i should have my lowberry & masterlow beans in the mail tommorrow...:hump: i'm definitely planning on breeding the male & female of each strain.
 

earnie

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I've grown the loryder 2's and loved them, i just got my new diesel ryder seeds today and will get them going in a day or 2. I wanted to try lowberry but had trouble ordering from dutchbreed.com their payment options are almost impossible for U.S. an answer to the above Q "do you know where to order his seeds from that ships to the u.s?" YES order from www.dope-seeds.com I get seeds from them frequently and within 5-7 days. Also if you want to create ur own breed of auto's heres how: breed a LR-2 male with any breed u want then take the offspring and breed back to a LR-2 male the result will be autoflowering you might have to breed back to LR-2 again to get 100% stability. or simply cross any 2 lowryder strains.
 

sir smokesalot

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i am starting to get more interested in Diesel Ryder these days too. it seems like alot of people are giving alot of poistive feedback about it and most people seem to yeild between 1-1.5 ounces per plant
 

johnny5fingers

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I did a seed run with Diesel Ryder and so far all the seeds I generated from the seed run have auto flowered.
One thing I noticed with the Diesel Ryder seeds to get good germination rates you need to dry the seeds 3 to 4 weeks.
The outer seed coating is very hard, if you soak them for a few hours then put them between wet papers towels for one or two days, then put the seed between a pair of needle nose pliers and carefully crack the seed casing slightly, your germination rate goes up considerably.
The Diesel Ryder that I grew had two different phenol types.
I got almost 900 seeds from one 26 inch Diesel Ryder and about 500 from the other DR female.
Diesel Ryder is a very potent flavorful strain.
I have White Widow and Bigbud seeds......but I think the Auto Flowering varieties is the only type I am going to grow.
Its very comforting to know you dont have to worry about photo periods or having a timer malfunction at the wrong time.
The Autoflowering varieties are grown like any house plant.
Hope this info helps.
 

sir smokesalot

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I did a seed run with Diesel Ryder and so far all the seeds I generated from the seed run have auto flowered.
One thing I noticed with the Diesel Ryder seeds to get good germination rates you need to dry the seeds 3 to 4 weeks.
The outer seed coating is very hard, if you soak them for a few hours then put them between wet papers towels for one or two days, then put the seed between a pair of needle nose pliers and carefully crack the seed casing slightly, your germination rate goes up considerably.
The Diesel Ryder that I grew had two different phenol types.
I got almost 900 seeds from one 26 inch Diesel Ryder and about 500 from the other DR female.
Diesel Ryder is a very potent flavorful strain.
I have White Widow and Bigbud seeds......but I think the Auto Flowering varieties is the only type I am going to grow.
Its very comforting to know you dont have to worry about photo periods or having a timer malfunction at the wrong time.
The Autoflowering varieties are grown like any house plant.
Hope this info helps.
yeah i heard the seeds were hard to germ sometimes

i was thinking the other day about auto flowering strains and it sort of struck me funny that a typical autoflowering plant takes 8-10 weeks with usually 3 weeks in veg and 6 to 7 weeks in flower. Thats only a month and a half in flower (and thats at the most). Is that really enough time to properly mature and produce a smoke thats equal too a plant that would normally get 10-12 weeks in flower?

is it maybe because the plant is smaller itself that i does not take as long to mature to that same level? thats one thing that has never jived with me about autoflowering varities. hope fully this makes sense because i am really high right now.:mrgreen:
 

kirby

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Yes, its enough time to mature. My diesel's grew to about... 5-6 inches in a week or two... then they started to flower. 60 days later... you have bud! Its a small plant(26inches), so the bud is easy to develop in 2 months.
 

johnny5fingers

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The Autoflowering that I have grown, if you grow them in hydro which is the only way I have grown them. You can actually harvest at 8 weeks. It will be a different high than if you harvest at 9 or 10 weeks. After11 weeks unless your doing a seed run the THC seems to be degrading some. I have found the heaviest stone is between 10 and 11 weeks.
I actually perfer the high if harvested at 8 to 9 weeks, but that is just my preference.
Give the Auto's a try they really are a unique strain and worth the time and effort.
 

semeye

Active Member
to make the genes stable i heard you have to pollenate a normal female strain with a male lowryder ORIGINAL (as lowryder 2 is an actual cross with diesil ryder and joint doctor doesnt actually believe them both to be a F1 hybrid) then pollenate the female seeds with the original male lowryder many times agen, backtraiting to make the original autoflower genes to be "stable" in the cross your making

hope that helps
 

BPeezy

Active Member
Spoke with dutchbreed.com via email the other day and he stated that they ship to the US, and the option of paying via credit/debit on the special tshirt site would be available the 25th of Jan. I have also heard the only confirmed autoflowering strain available there at dutchbreed.com is the short term amnesia as the others have many different phenotypes and some may be 12/12 strains. Just what I heard
 

sir smokesalot

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Spoke with dutchbreed.com via email the other day and he stated that they ship to the US, and the option of paying via credit/debit on the special tshirt site would be available the 25th of Jan. I have also heard the only confirmed autoflowering strain available there at dutchbreed.com is the short term amnesia as the others have many different phenotypes and some may be 12/12 strains. Just what I heard
i have only heard good things about dutchbreed and their genetics, nothing negative so far. i think alot of people havent used them much in the past because of limited payment options.

since i orignially posted this I actually decided to order seeds from Dr. Chronic in a couple weeks. either ak47 or deisel ryder seem to be the best strains so far
 
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