Anyone remember which idiot said The massacre in colorado would of been less severe

chrishydro · Aug 26, 2012

Guns, no Guns, bottom line there are some sick people out there that are going to do this type of senseless crap and there will be inocent people hurt and killed by them and the police and the average citz.

People are on all types of anti depres, drink too much, Ambien, best to try and keep in touch with what is around you at all times. Sad but true, everywhere I go, for years, I check out the exits and know where I am going should shit start period. With that said there are worse things that people dont even mention, for example each day 28 people die in drunk driving accidents in the US. Now that does not count the mamed, injured etc just the deaths alone. So why is that not on CNN every day, why does the president make comment about that every day? 28 people, men women and children gone in a second. So should we ban cars or ban booze and smoke for that matter??

Guns, Cars, Booze, Smoke they all have a usefull purpose, it is the people that miss use that cause this type of senseless death.

Corso312 · Aug 26, 2012

You don't know shit..do some research or talk to some of your marine friends..you would be surprised how easy some modifications are....@ beardo..we have enough of a problem when one retard is armed and and shooting at a crowd..you want to give these morons access to RPG's and Anti personal mines..bunker busters? laser guided 50 cal sniper rifles?

desert dude · Aug 26, 2012

ChesusRice said:
so cops are trained
what would be the result of 13 people
(1 perp 12 citizens)
Firing in a crowded darkened theater?

You are the guy I was thinking about in the OP

Who knows for sure? Do you? Would 373 people have died, all shot by the 12 fumbling citizens? That seems to be your thesis here. You tell us, it will be amusing.

There are LOTS of examples of armed citizens ending potentially violent crimes with nobody injured. There are LOTS of examples of actually violent crimes ended with only the violent criminal injured.

beenthere · Aug 26, 2012

NLXSK1 said:
So what?

Is this some sort of argument why citizens should not have guns? Because the logic is not there...

UncleBuck said:
how the hell did you arrive at that retarded conclusion?

did you even read the title of the thread and the first line of the OP?

i think this is an argument for "more people would have been injured if everyone was armed".

maybe you should focus more on mowing lawns, and less on misinterpreting arguments.

LMAO Is it me or did Bucky Biden just make the identical argument? LOL

Moses Mobetta · Aug 26, 2012

desert dude said:
That inspires confidence in the 911 system, doesn't it!!!!

This is the kind of cocky behavior displayed by police all over the country. If a person did this in the private sector they would be fired.

Dr Kynes · Aug 26, 2012

ChesusRice said:
I think you are under estimating the body count a dozen cowboys in a darkened theatre shooting guns off would be

dont forget grenades. and rocket launchers, and a couple suicide vests, and maybe a flamethrower. yep you just cant trust those damned american people. lets all trust in the police to always be there to protect us. they have been doin a great job so far.

NoDrama · Aug 26, 2012

Corso312 said:
You don't know shit..do some research or talk to some of your marine friends..you would be surprised how easy some modifications are....@ beardo..we have enough of a problem when one retard is armed and and shooting at a crowd..you want to give these morons access to RPG's and Anti personal mines..bunker busters? laser guided 50 cal sniper rifles?

OK, you said it was easy to make MANY guns full auto. What is the easy way to make a AK-47 full auto? SKS? BLR? Remington 700? Browning BPS? Do you even know what these guns are? I think you are totally ignorant. That isn't necessarily a bad thing, I too am ignorant on many subjects, but becasue I know I am ignorant on these subjects I do not make assumptions or statements of fact about such things either.

It isn't easy to make any gun full auto.

No such thing as a laser guided .50 sniper rifle. Ignorance, it knows no bounds.

desert dude · Aug 26, 2012

I have a Browning Citori, 12 gauge. How do I make that full auto?

lifegoesonbrah · Aug 26, 2012

ChesusRice said:
I have no solution

desert dude · Aug 26, 2012

Corso312 said:
I was back in Chicago all week... that is not uncommon really..the south and west sides are like that all summer..

Chicago is a gun control Mecca. How's that working out for you gunophobes?

Dr Kynes · Aug 26, 2012

Corso312 said:
You don't know shit..do some research or talk to some of your marine friends..you would be surprised how easy some modifications are....@ beardo..we have enough of a problem when one retard is armed and and shooting at a crowd..you want to give these morons access to RPG's and Anti personal mines..bunker busters? laser guided 50 cal sniper rifles?

in the war of 1812 andy jackson's kentucky riflemen were armed with .37 caliber hillbilly guided sniper weapons, and they used them!! ZOMG!

in the revolutionary war BOTH SIDES were armed with.75 caliber destructive devices with a charge of loose unpackaged explosives which on several occasions detonated accidentally.

the .50 BMG is a large and powerful round, which is extremely difficult to manage accurately. it's primary role is not, nor has it ever been as an anti-personnel weapon. it is a heavy weapon for targeting vehicles, bunkers, fortified emplacements, aircraft and small vessels. not people. for killing people there are better, more accurate, more modern, cheaper, easier to conceal weapons with ranges approaching that of an expertly wielded .50 BMG (which is a cartridge designed over 100 years ago) the .338 lapua has a flatter trajectory and less drift over most ranges, and only loses out to the .50 bmg in heavy crosswinds or extreme ranges, yet it can be operated by any competent marksman fairly easily, and comes in a wide variety of sporting and military arms all of which are perfectly legal.

your specious claims of RPGs and bunker buster bombs are simplyu hyperbole and warrant no refutation.

antipersonnel mines are in fact readily available to any asshole who can read the improvised munitions handbook (mine was published by the war department in 1968 ) and found at most army surplus stores, or on the interwebs.

a .50 BMG with "laser guidance"? what the hell are you smoking?

equipping any rifle with a laser sight is stupid. only dumbasses would do such a thing. laser sights only work reliably at handgun ranges.

statements like that lead people to believe you never even shot a gun before, much less gone hunting.

desert dude · Aug 26, 2012

ChesusRice said:
No the point of this thread is to call out the IDIOT
who said if everyone in the theater was armed
the situation would of had a better outcome

Well guess what

IT would of been WORSE

I think you might get less push back from all of us crazed second-amendment types if you change your phrasing to, "IT might have been WORSE". Sure, you will have to admit that you are not a psychic, but it seems a small price to pay for harmony.

Dr Kynes · Aug 26, 2012

desert dude said:
I have a Browning Citori, 12 gauge. How do I make that full auto?

you got a CNC machine with a billet of steel and some time? you can make yourself a street sweeper, or build an AA12.

the thompson sliding block recoil action design could easily be scaled to work for shotgun shells, though the low cyclical rate would keep it around 200 to 300 rounds per minute. load in some sabots or flechettes and you could have yourself a party.

ChesusRice · Aug 26, 2012

desert dude said:
I think you might get less push back from all of us crazed second-amendment types if you change your phrasing to, "IT might have been WORSE". Sure, you will have to admit that you are not a psychic, but it seems a small price to pay for harmony.

NO
it WOULD of been worse
A lot Worse

ChesusRice · Aug 26, 2012

NoDrama said:
LOL, ok you go ahead and make that work. I assume you have a COLT SP1 carrier?

No need for any special carrier
or modified lower
just 2 pieces of metal

or you can get really technical
and use your thumb and the belt loop on your pants and bumpfire

nontheist · Aug 26, 2012

ChesusRice said:
No need for any special carrier
or modified lower
just 2 pieces of metal

or you can get really technical
and use your thumb and the belt loop on your pants and bumpfire

LOL bump fire? Bumpfire is not a dependable method to turn a semi to a fully. Almost impossible to change directions(aim) and works about 50% of the time if you well practiced at it. To turn an ar15 into a auto you must machine the lower and machine an additional pin. Anyone that knows anything about arms can look at it and tell you its a fully within 3 seconds. Once you do that your manufacturing arms without a license which I believe is a 10,000 fine and a class 1 felony.

ChesusRice · Aug 26, 2012

nontheist said:
LOL bump fire? Bumpfire is not a dependable method to turn a semi to a fully. Almost impossible to change directions(aim) and works about 50% of the time if you well practiced at it. To turn an ar15 into a auto you must machine the lower and machine an additional pin. Anyone that knows anything about arms can look at it and tell you its a fully within 3 seconds. Once you do that your manufacturing arms without a license which I believe is a 10,000 fine and a class 1 felony.

again
you are a stupid fuck
ever heard of a light ning link?

Grandpapy · Aug 26, 2012

beardo said:
Leave it to the professionals.
They're here to help, they know what's best. They care about you and your health and safety.

side note: In Australia, Bush fire professionals depend on civilian help. Here you are a danger for trying to help.......... :wall:

deprave · Aug 26, 2012

racerboy71 said:
i think with cops shooting a suspect the fact is it's not one single cop doing the shooting, and they don't fire single rounds to simply stop a suspect, but are pretty much known to keep shooting till they run out of rounds..

i think that is why so many innocent people get shot during a police lead shooting.. also, they were all probably standing around him at different angles, all shooting till the empty their clips at a suspect at all different angles, some shots missing the target and killing bystanders..

imo, if someone in that theatre would have had a gun, they'd probably only shoot the douche enough times to simply get him to the ground.. i can't see one of them emptying their clips into a person the way cops do.. plus, it wouldn't be 10 armed people all trying to fill the guy with lead the way i've seen cops take down an armed suspect..

just my $.02 though..

why would they be using lead?

desert dude · Aug 26, 2012

ChesusRice said:
NO
it WOULD of been worse
A lot Worse

Nah, it WOULD have been way better. The crazy guy would have entered the theater and took one sniff of the air. Smelling gun oil, he would have dropped his weapons and decided instead to join the monastery. Nobody would have even noticed him and they would all have enjoyed the movie. The same thing happens every day in America; see how AWESOME guns are?

Anyone remember which idiot said The massacre in colorado would of been less severe

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