Get your facts straight. Teknik was banned for shit canning hydrogrow led, a one time sponsor here who got kicked out over being liers and snitches (repeated calling the police on their own customers who grew in red states). Hybridway for some reason took her serious and made a somewhat dubious side by side with hlg; when he realized that the lights were shit he got further worked over and shamed by the owner for comments he made in private. Ask him yourself if you like.
I can guarantee you tekink knows more about led lighting than almost anyone here and its kinda sad hes not here anymore cause he actually brought something to the forum (accurate testing of led chips for example thru equipment not available to anyone here unless they pay a 100s of $) although some of us still see him in another forum.
I dont know why you seem to need to clank down on someone you clearly know nothing about, and why youre in some way attached youself to these mammoth lights.