What up wilt??????? 2.5 hours is upsate. but think of the real upstate like exit 26-34 or so off 87. those fellas are way up there i think they will have snow till may. I think i may pretty close to you if you are by Troy my gf gose to school there and it takes her like 25 to 30 mins. With no twin bridges traffic. peace-out caz