Anyone ever experiment with geometric growrooms?

Wierd concept but was thinking about building a pyramid style growroom since my tent tarp is all fucked now. My light normally covers a 4x4 but since I have to build a room vs a tent I was thinking about doing a four side pyramid, with the grow light at the top. The vents for the light would be outside of the actual “tent”.I feel like this would prolly reflect the light close to 90% and I could end up with a much larger floor area while still getting the same amount of umol. Like a lot of light is wasted in these square ass tents for ex. a lot of it is being reflected up past where the light is hanging from as well as onThe floor. Has anyone ever experimented with different growroom shapes to reflect the light?? I’ve tried to research shit but only find some hippy dippy bull shit like “building a copper pyramid around your plot will grow your plants better man.”

I’m talking about actual scientific angles to reflect the light from the smallest point and span it a 2-4x diameter without loosing any photons. I do sog @2ft max finishing so height loss is not an issue just wondering cause there ain’t any info out here.

The way I see it is your getting the same amount of square footage just cutting the corners off and adding it to the width of the base, thus getting extra grow area and no extra loss of light because of direct reflection with the panda plastic.
 
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Richard Drysift

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No. But I do wear a tinfoil hat whenever in my grow room so I remain undetected by government scanner drones.
I have a big ass XXL reflector for a 600w hps that is sort of pyramid shaped. Well a pyramid stretched out on the bottom into a rectangle anyway. That's how it increases the footprint widely to distribute the light. I can put more plants under it than I could with a regular size reflector.
So what you have in mind could work. Only thing is space is limited both vertically and horizontally as the plants grow taller. If you are doing a sog or scrog grow though it may not be much of an issue.
 
I’ll post results and comparisons as I had a 1000w raptor hood(think it’s rated to cover a 5x5 if I’m not mistaken?) in a4x8 tent on a mover to cover the entire tent.

I’m shooting for a 6x6-8x8 coverage from one light without loosing photons from top to bottom and figured they should bounce off the walls all the way down if the angles are right and the panda plastic is nice and tight all the way down.
 

OneHitDone

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How about like a geodesic dome shape or a giant parabolic reflector for the lid?
I like where your going with this :hump:
 

JohnDee

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Grower,
I remember several guys who set up rooms with parabolic shape. It was longitudinal with each side wall meeting in the center. Then they mounted a bare bulb at the loci of the parabola so that all reflected light is directed straight downward.
JD
 

ttystikk

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Having played with a lot of geometries in growing spaces over the years, I came to the conclusion that the bottom line is photons on leaves.

Getting the light closer to the plants was the most effective trick I found and that required a light mover; I built one that moved the light in a circle continuously and used a grow wing style reflector. I then ran the lamp just a foot above the canopy!

This worked because the light would blast the plants directly underneath from multiple angles as it passed over, but it never lasted long enough to burn. The light took about 3 1/2 minutes to complete a circle about 5' in diameter. The whole grow space was about 8' across, bordered by smooth Mylar that gave a hard bounce you could see yourself in. Basically, the plants lived in what might be called partly cloudy conditions...

Weight per Watt was high but weight per square foot was low.

Directional lighting from LED is an improvement in every way, no mover required- and no crazy geometry either, unless you consider vertical walls of bud to be insane lol
 

Renfro

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Weight per Watt was high but weight per square foot was low.
So light movers spread yield instead of multiplying it. Thats always been my assertion. Now if you move lights but maintain the wattage per sqft then you get the best of both worlds.
 

ttystikk

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So light movers spread yield instead of multiplying it. Thats always been my assertion. Now if you move lights but maintain the wattage per sqft then you get the best of both worlds.
Having multiple lights across the canopy accomplishes the same thing.
 

ttystikk

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Fully sunny vs partly cloudy.
The reason I think the old light mover thing worked was because the light moved and overcame leaf shading issues. Having an array of lights does the same thing without the downside of low light levels for part of the time.

I stopped investigating along this line of research because I noticed that cost of space is high enough that no one wants to pull less than their maximum potential per square foot. In other words, low yield per square foot was a deal breaker...
 

Renfro

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I once used a light mover with 5 lights, it was the one that spins around and turns back the other way. I had 4 lights on the ends and one in the middle. It wasn't trying to take less lights and cover a bigger area, it was just moving the lights so the angles change and the plants get hit all around. It worked great, then that house got raided and all the equipment lost. At least I had it right and nothing was in my name. We used to do that a lot in missouri, go rent a house under an alias (easier to do back in the 90's), bust out a run or two and bounce.
 
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