Anybody Want To Double Their Yield?- Desertrat's Top and Prune?
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Hotwired
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desertrat
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Personally, I'm going to medicate and appreciate the finer things in the universe, and perhaps in the light of a new day minds will be opened to new ideas.there is one other way.
Uncle Ben
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Sorry, but ya'll can embrace your theories all day long, seen it a million times in countless forums, but you can't change botany, basic plant culture. It is what it is.
There are no "new ideas", just gimmicks from noobs who think they can reinvent the wheel. Like I said, the only way you may be able to receive any real world benefit by removing foliage is IF that foliar mass you removed is subsequently replaced by equal or more foliar mass. To think otherwise is showing your ignorance and lack of experience.
You still haven't addressed the fact that when you top as high as you recommended in the first post that the plant will no longer have a "main branch". You have removed apical dominance found in a typical terminal leader. Research hormonal processes and how they drive growth (as well as drive dormancy and other plant processes).
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Miss MeanWeed
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The search feature doesn't seem to like me here, or perhaps I ask it the wrong questions. I checked your thread listings but really I didn't know what specifically to look for. Thanks for the directions.
Uncle Ben
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Funny, but I couldn't pull up any UB thread links. Now you know why I put in that caveat to you! This isn't the well designed website it used to be. The "new and improved" version really sucks. I did link you to a thread that should have answered your questions regarding the importance of leaves and foods that would support foliage.
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desertrat
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15% better yield for top and prune over top only for lowryders, repeated experiments with larger plants had twice the yield compared to your suggested method.QED
LBCengineer
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well i just read the latter half of this thread and i can honestly say i did not learn one god damn thing! I feel like I am reading a script from Days Of Our Lives or something.
that's okay b/c i didn't come here with questions (good thing!), just to see what you all are saying.
it's sad that after all this bitching and whining, if someone actually had questions they would have to sift through all this B.S. to find answers. what a pain in the butt.
thanks for the entertainment though!
that's okay b/c i didn't come here with questions (good thing!), just to see what you all are saying.
it's sad that after all this bitching and whining, if someone actually had questions they would have to sift through all this B.S. to find answers. what a pain in the butt.
thanks for the entertainment though!
Howard Stern
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Uncle Ben, Why the fuck do you care so much what desertrat does with his plants? I am going to do a side by side with this and I am also going to try out LST on my next grow. You both have really nice grows and you both are experianced growers! But you guys are lowering yourselves in my opinion. Why not just agree to disagree, and maybe there is more than one way to skin a cat. Either way nobody is making you grow "their way" so grow big and be happy!
sguardians2
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Thank you!
quitbichyn
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Sbscribed!!
OZUT
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Subscribed to what? This thread has been dead for 2 months now
Hi UB another childish UB gangbang Ha Ha that's really fresh. I am still involved in finding new ways to screw up a grow. Fortunately I have a good memory so I try to make mistakes only once. First one I ever made was removing fan leaves on one of my first 2 plants I grew. I remember it well, difficult to cut off the first one but after that I removed about half of them. I left the 2nd plant alone. two plants side by side . I'm no physicist and it's been a long time since my crop science days but I wil never for any reason remove a perfectly healthy fan leaf again. just my own personal observation but my second mistake was nute burn. 2 plants about 28 inches tall, 1 with half of the fan leaves removed. The plant I defoliated never recovered and I ended up destroying it. The other recovered and I had a pretty good harvest. Cheers
Uncle Ben
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gangas canner
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I've had great success with simply pinching one top pnce plant is about 10 inches, letting the 2 tops grow about 4 inches, then pinching the 2 tops and thus getting 4 tops. I then wait anout 8-10 days, then flip to flower.
1.5 to 2 lbs per light in 2 gallon posts, 16 pots per light.
1.5 to 2 lbs per light in 2 gallon posts, 16 pots per light.
Drr
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I didn't wanna jump in this but.. like my unlce ben said when you cut off the leaves.. the branch at that node replaces it.
and the other thing is that your opening the canopy for light to penetrate the lower nodes and they take off towards the light.. while topping it make the plant concentrate on those lower nodes...
Now what you've done here is gone from 1/2 to a full yield...
you doubled YOUR YIELD...
and the other thing is that your opening the canopy for light to penetrate the lower nodes and they take off towards the light.. while topping it make the plant concentrate on those lower nodes...
Now what you've done here is gone from 1/2 to a full yield...
you doubled YOUR YIELD...
researchkitty
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Thanks for adding so much information a year after the thread was over, Drr. 
Without your post, who knows what we would have though?
Without your post, who knows what we would have though? 
C.Indica
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If you must cut off fan leaves, it's best to cut them when they are as small as possible. This will avoid as much energy loss at once, and shift full attention to the branch at that node.
If you cut off large fan leaves, this will stunt the plant and waste a lot of energy on the leaf.
If you cut off large fan leaves, this will stunt the plant and waste a lot of energy on the leaf.
Gratewhitehunter
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Awesome information
Thanks for the information I have been doing this same thing all the way through the growth it works awesome...
Thanks for the information I have been doing this same thing all the way through the growth it works awesome...
flyingtime
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I went through this thread last night and this morning I woke up and took all 6 of my plants (all in 4th wk of veg), I fimmed and made a spiral staircase of my fan leaves...I went for it 100% on all 6.
Why? Well, I am not expecting to double my yields..not at all. What I am looking for is to slow down the top growth and getting wider girths. I am sure that with training and pinching, etc all of this is achievable too but I just didn't feel like it.
So, will post some before and after pictures and see what the outcome is. BTW, the six ladies are :
2 x C99 (Joey Weed..still have about 30+ beans I bought 3 years ago..kept in a small constant climate chamber. I dropped 2 and both germinated..and fast too)
2 x CSSH (Delicious)
1 x Utopia Haze (Barneys)
1 x Amnesia Haze (Soma)
Will take some pics as time goes by and post them.
Why? Well, I am not expecting to double my yields..not at all. What I am looking for is to slow down the top growth and getting wider girths. I am sure that with training and pinching, etc all of this is achievable too but I just didn't feel like it.
So, will post some before and after pictures and see what the outcome is. BTW, the six ladies are :
2 x C99 (Joey Weed..still have about 30+ beans I bought 3 years ago..kept in a small constant climate chamber. I dropped 2 and both germinated..and fast too
)2 x CSSH (Delicious)
1 x Utopia Haze (Barneys)
1 x Amnesia Haze (Soma)
Will take some pics as time goes by and post them.