any1 know about mp5 players?

netpirate

New Member

netpirate

New Member
WE TOOK THE chance to play with the two top multimedia entertainment devices. The idea was to compare the top-of-the-line Ipod video 30GB and with Creative Labs Zen Vision M 30 GB. Both companies have hard drive based MP3 players that can do much more than just play MP3s. They can play video files this time and despite the small screen you can actually get used to it. At least, I did. We already wrote a detailed review of Zen Vision M so we won't get into too many details. You can read the detailed review here.

Let's start with the Ipod. America loves it. We saw so many Ipods in America, that it was ridiculous. The Ipod Video has a great design, and this hard drive based 30GB device is very slick. The navigation is pretty standard and if you played with an Ipod before you won't have any problems at all. Ipod Video will offer more than 10 hour's battery life and two and a half hours of video playback.
We have to object about the Ipod's screen. Well, it's OK until you see the Zen Vision M. Up against that, the iPod's colours seem washed out - the picture is pale. The Zen vision M clearly has a superior display.

When it comes to Video playback, the Zen Vision M is thicker and therefore can play movies a bit longer. It pretty much lives up to its claimed four and a half hours battery life. However, the Ipod can play more MP3s and can keep playing them for even more than 10 hours.
Both devices have a non-removable battery so you cannot buy or exchange it with a spare one. This really sucks. We also dislike the proprietary connectors and the dongle in Zen Vision M's case that you need to connect any external devices. The Ipod Video has the same problem as you need dongle but there are far more accessories available for this device than for Creative's.

If you forget this dongle, you won't be able to recharge the devices with a USB cable as you won't be able to connect it. You won't be able to transfer any music or videos on it either. So this really is a huge functionality flaw, especially for frequent travellers. Yeah, on my travels, I left it at home.

We found that the Zen Vision M has a better TV out. It is just crystal clear, easy to use and gives you an unbelievably great picture.

The last but not the last is the price factor. If you buy them online both devices will cost your roughly the same. The Zen Vision M is available for €340 with shipping in Austria while you can buy the Ipod video 30GB for €310 including the shipping. Ipod has an advantage but it is not that bad.
Conclusion
If you are fashion-concious, the Ipod is your choice. It is more popular, cooler and therefore more desirable. I am not saying that Zen Vision M doesn't look great but the Ipod is more recognisable. Most people confused Ipod Vision M for a straight Ipod. The designs are similar.
When it comes to the video features, such as picture quality, video out or video battery life Creative Labs' Zen Vision M clearly wins against the Apple Ipod. It is simply more functional and the battery in video mode will last longer. The Ipod can play music files a little bit longer but I would still make the choice of a video player on a video features rather than on music ones. If you only care about music and not about the video maybe you should go for some MP3 player rather than Video and MP3 player.
Both devices suffer from lack of removable battery and have the added the proprietary dongles and connectors so it is tight here and the price is very similar.
Overall, the Zen Vision M is the better choice as it has by far that best video that we seen so far. I love Zen Video M video out as it will let you put your movies in your pocket as you wander around to your friends place. The choice is, as always, just yours, but some of these fuzzy pictures might help you decide. ?
 

poplars

Well-Known Member
as far as I know you can replace the battery in the ipod video. I've fixed my headphone jack in my ipod video before and noticed that the battery was replaceable. you just need to buy one and replace it yourself (which can be annoying.)

either way, I like my ipod video, it's lasted me over 3 years, and it just is nicer than a zune to me. I can use it entirely in my pocket, turn up the volume and down, next song previous song, etc. all in my pocket because of the click wheele.

I know there are other things the zune my have over the ipod, but over all I prefer the ipod and I think in the long run that's what /truly/ counts.
 

netpirate

New Member
Zune?? This is ZEN. Not zune. zune blows.

as far as I know you can replace the battery in the ipod video. I've fixed my headphone jack in my ipod video before and noticed that the battery was replaceable. you just need to buy one and replace it yourself (which can be annoying.)

either way, I like my ipod video, it's lasted me over 3 years, and it just is nicer than a zune to me. I can use it entirely in my pocket, turn up the volume and down, next song previous song, etc. all in my pocket because of the click wheele.

I know there are other things the zune my have over the ipod, but over all I prefer the ipod and I think in the long run that's what /truly/ counts.

Touch or no touch. The people over at apple are making things for lazy ppl and quite frankly have products that are aimed at the far less knowledgeable. Not calling anyone here stupid, point being that ipod and mac are basically idiot proof with extra gadgets that are just for show. I know I don't care who thinks what of my music player. So what if it's not touch or wi-fi. I have a laptop for that. I don't need a music player that is touch screen and can get on the web. I don;t need an mp3 player or cell phone that can take pictures and video all through touch screen and cook for me too.

I think Carlin said it best.

"I sort of gave up on this whole human adventure a long time ago, divorced myself from it emotionally. It gives me an artistic detachment that I find valuable. I think the human race has squandered its gift, and I think this country has squandered its promise, for the sake of cell phones and Jet Skis." George Carlin
i guess i was talking about the wrong thing, i meant the ipod TOUCH
 

ganjamanuk

Well-Known Member
Get a good iriver, fucking brill had mine 3 years now and its still amazes people with the amount of technology on it. I think there is one with TV or sum crazy shit but yer there sweet assed
 

netpirate

New Member
So it boils down to personal taste and usage. To each their own I say. If you want an Ipod Touch, get the Ipod Touch. I'm sure you will be happy with it. I can't wait for the AMOLED mp3 players to hit the mainstream and get bigger screens and cheaper prices. iriver has a cool little AMOLED for sale!

Thank ganja for options!

Happy tokling and music listening.


Peace!
 

smokeh

Well-Known Member
The new ones are great as well! I have played with one and was impressed. But only 8gbs.... I need more room!haha But sure! Go get one! I back creative all the way!
yeah 8 gigs, but u can put a card in it from your digi camera and look at pics an vids there. or u can use it as more storage for films / mp3s.


i know people are trying to help and give their input but if i was going to buy one it'd be creative. ive always liked them.

but still, my question is unanwsered. wifi on mp5 players............ internet browser or not?
 

Tizzle312

Well-Known Member
i dont know what your problem is with ipods i love my ipod i got movies , videos madd songs on there
and u dont have to use ITUNES at all u can use waaaay better programs like Floola
 

Cr8z13

Well-Known Member
I ditched Itunes a while back in favor of Songbird. My next player will probably be an Ipod Touch. I really like the idea of VO-FI. Plenty of other great apps too.
 

jrh72582

Well-Known Member
I HATED my last Zen and will NEVER buy another one!!! I prefer Itunes over anything else and thus, will stick with the Ipod. IMHO, it's the Ipod over the Zen every time.
 

Louis541

Well-Known Member
I don't seee why everyone is hating on Itunes. I love it. Sure, I was mad when Ipod said I had to install it, but I still use it even though I lost my ipod about a year ago.
 

RANDUMpurple

Well-Known Member
I may be a fanboy of sorts, but I find nothing wrong with Itunes in any way, it does everything I need fast and simply. Just not FLAC, which I have Cog for.

I love my new Touch2G and cannot wait for redsn0w to be released, and the real fun begins..



not to start a war or anything, but can your little Zen mp3 player do half the things I do with my touch on a daily basis? I think not.
 

ugzkmk

Well-Known Member
well teh touch has applications that you can get for it. but as far as itunes, i was reading an atricle and i guess whatever mp3 codec they use sucks compared to others like foobar and winamp.
 

RANDUMpurple

Well-Known Member
third party apps..

any apps at all? a browser? remote play? pandora? itunes mobile? email? youtube?? maps???

I mean really man?
 

netpirate

New Member
My laptop can do all that lemmings! haha I want an mp3 player to do just that..PLAY MUSIC. I don't need to surf the web and bake for me all at the touch of a screen . LOL
CO-Dependant ppl are funny! I bet the cell phone in your pocket adjacent to your ipod can brows the web, play music and do all that shit too right.... hahaha


Later Lemmings!
 

smokeh

Well-Known Member
My laptop can do all that lemmings! haha I want an mp3 player to do just that..PLAY MUSIC. I don't need to surf the web and bake for me all at the touch of a screen . LOL
CO-Dependant ppl are funny! I bet the cell phone in your pocket adjacent to your ipod can brows the web, play music and do all that shit too right.... hahaha


Later Lemmings!
i dont have an ipod. but yes my phone can do all that and more.

id like to have the accessibility when im on the move, which is quite alot.
 
Top