Any one have any experience making S1 seeds?
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Olive Drab Green
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Right. This. Zygotes, gametes, and all that jazz. Hurray for fucking yourself until your children become yourself.
TheChemist77
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ive done breeding, back crossing to stabilize, and created many S1's and feminized crosses...
it seems the female u begin with, so long as its a healthy strong female, S1's made w/ her are NOT prone to herm, however,, stability of S1's seems to depend on that female.. if the female is a f2,f3 or so on seeds will not be so uniform.. if the female used to make S1's is a stabliized, or true breed,, seeds are very uniform and almost if not identicle to the famale..
have any of u had your S1's have many different phenio's?
ive always had great results, then i just used a 5.0 female n selfed it after stress testing clones off the same batch.. anyways i got pollen made S1's and planted,,,,they are all over the place not 1 is like the seed mom,, and each plant is different.. im guessing the 5.0 seed mom must have been an f2 or f3????
it seems the female u begin with, so long as its a healthy strong female, S1's made w/ her are NOT prone to herm, however,, stability of S1's seems to depend on that female.. if the female is a f2,f3 or so on seeds will not be so uniform.. if the female used to make S1's is a stabliized, or true breed,, seeds are very uniform and almost if not identicle to the famale..
have any of u had your S1's have many different phenio's?
ive always had great results, then i just used a 5.0 female n selfed it after stress testing clones off the same batch.. anyways i got pollen made S1's and planted,,,,they are all over the place not 1 is like the seed mom,, and each plant is different.. im guessing the 5.0 seed mom must have been an f2 or f3????
darkzero
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The S1 I have didnt really have different pheno's but one thing it did do was look like its mother For example the 1st 3 pics are the mother which was a F1 and the last is the S1. The only difference in style of growth is the F1 was grown indoors and started indoors and the S1 was started indoors went outside and flowered indoors and it was tall.
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Same shit that was done with nearly every vegetable we eat today. Do you like corn? Broccoli?
I guess a brother and sister fucking would be more acceptable as in a f2?
Plants are not human.
farmerfischer
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The fem. Endless sky from d.g.t. that I had
Exspressed three different phenos. The odd thing the train wreck was pretty much identical. But several were mutants at first and straightened it's self out as it grew.
I'm not knocking his gear, they're all high quality plants and smoke.
farmerfischer
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From what I had come to understand there's a difference in (S1's) and (s1's ) the S1 is induced and it's pollen is then use on a younger clone of it's self making true fem's with next to no change in it's makeup. The s1 is a result of using pollen from one induced female and using it on another female from the same strain batch resulting in two or three different phenos in the offspring fem's. And I think the frequency of variations in phenos depends on the females stability .
TheChemist77
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so your sayinf if i took 8 clones off a mother,put them into bloom and used 1 to get pollen, then put that pollen on its clone sisters its s1 not S1?? i was under the impression that as they are all clones off the same mother, the 1 used to get the pollen is an exact replica of the ones ur using to pollinate,,,so its the same as pollenating a branch on the same plant the pollen is poff of???
oop
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pretty sure he was being facetious
I believe what you are describing is just a feminized cross. For example OGKB#2 x OGKB#11 but just pollinating w/ fem pollen, not male pollen.. Unless you mean pollinating a clone then it is an S1. I dont think I've heard of any difference between s1 v S1, some people just dont capitalize. But then again, people use different lingo depending where you are located i guess.
farmerfischer
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S1 I believe means it stable . little to no pheno variation. This is only done when pollenizing its self(clone is used for pollenating . s1 is an unstable fem. Same strain two different females to make seed but the two females may of been slightly unstable . this is the way I was explained. So when purchase fem seeds I know to ask. Makes it easier for breeding so I can make this a little faster. I may be wrong. I'm just sharing my take.