Any Liquid Karma users here?

Shape Shifter

Shape Shifter

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For my next grow, I'll be changing my successful nute regimen because variety is the spice of life. I'll be using Jacks321 as the base and will probably use Liquid Karma or something similar to it.

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Liquid Karma 0.1-0.1-0.5 Liquid Karma functions as a growth engine. This is because it contains a full complement of metabolically active organic compounds not found in regular plant foods or supplements. It contains Humic Acid, fermented compost, Amino Acids, vitamins, plant extracts, Seaweed Extract and carbohydrates. These unique compounds are absorbed immediately and act as regulatory signals, activators and/or catalysts to enable high metabolic activity which is immediately transformed to growth under all conditions.


Anyone using it? Can you share your experience with it? The rest of you are welcome to tell me it's snake oil, plants don't need it, I'm throwing my money away, etc...

Any similar substitutes you can recommend?
 
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jondamon

jondamon

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Shape Shifter said:
For my next grow, I'll be changing my successful nute regimen because variety is the spice of life. I'll be using Jacks321 as the base and will probably use Liquid Karma or something similar to it.

Description
Liquid Karma 0.1-0.1-0.5 Liquid Karma functions as a growth engine. This is because it contains a full complement of metabolically active organic compounds not found in regular plant foods or supplements. It contains Humic Acid, fermented compost, Amino Acids, vitamins, plant extracts, Seaweed Extract and carbohydrates. These unique compounds are absorbed immediately and act as regulatory signals, activators and/or catalysts to enable high metabolic activity which is immediately transformed to growth under all conditions.


Anyone using it? Can you share your experience with it? The rest of you are welcome to tell me it's snake oil, plants don't need it, I'm throwing my money away, etc...

Any similar substitutes you can recommend?
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you realise that without microencapsulation aminos and fulvic and humid acids can’t be uptaken by the plant.

the micro herd convert them for uptake.

but jacks is salt derived ionic nutrients no organic conversions happening.
 
Shape Shifter

Shape Shifter

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jondamon said:
you realise that without microencapsulation aminos and fulvic and humid acids can’t be uptaken by the plant.

the micro herd convert them for uptake.

but jacks is salt derived ionic nutrients no organic conversions happening.
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Not sure I can trust that. Explain why Advanced Nutrients puts Humic acid in their basic synthetic nute trio. Because it doesn't work? Because they want to make less money?

There is a whole bunch of info here about fulvic and humic acid. No mention of synthetic nute incompatibility. In fact, quite the opposite.

medteknutrients.com.au

Fulvic Acid in Hydroponics | Manic Botanix

Humates in Hydroponics Author G.Low and a member of the IHSS (International Humic Substance Society) closely collaborated on this story. The result is an article that is without a doubt the most…
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jondamon

jondamon

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Shape Shifter said:
Not sure I can trust that. Explain why Advanced Nutrients puts Humic acid in their basic synthetic nute trio. Because it doesn't work? Because they want to make less money?

There is a whole bunch of info here about fulvic and humic acid. No mention of synthetic nute incompatibility. In fact, quite the opposite.

medteknutrients.com.au

Fulvic Acid in Hydroponics | Manic Botanix

Humates in Hydroponics Author G.Low and a member of the IHSS (International Humic Substance Society) closely collaborated on this story. The result is an article that is without a doubt the most…
medteknutrients.com.au medteknutrients.com.au
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You want me to explain why AN the biggest rip off nutrient company out their put stuff that’s not required in their nutrient formulas lol. Really?

Microencapsulation is the only pheasable way that some of these elements can transport beyond the casparian strip and the endodermis layers.

Anyone in a lab can inject anything into a plant and get the results they want to prove that they work.

I’ll let you think about that for a little while.
 
Shape Shifter

Shape Shifter

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jondamon said:
You want me to explain why AN the biggest rip off nutrient company out their put stuff that’s not required in their nutrient formulas lol. Really?

Microencapsulation is the only pheasable way that some of these elements can transport beyond the casparian strip and the endodermis layers.

Anyone in a lab can inject anything into a plant and get the results they want to prove that they work.

I’ll let you think about that for a little while.
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Ok. So no real answers. Got it. You've been very unhelpful and reek of self importance.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Humic acid for soil improvement

Humic Acid

Humic acid is a powder or granular from Leonardite. It is a basic raw material for manufacturers in agricultural and natural additive for fertilizer to improve the structure of the soil and increase the fertility.
www.khumic.com www.khumic.com

Here’s a free one for you found within minutes.

I’m not unhelpful in the slightest but I also give information expecting a certain amount of free research to happen on the receivers end.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Shape Shifter said:
Not sure I can trust that. Explain why Advanced Nutrients puts Humic acid in their basic synthetic nute trio. Because it doesn't work? Because they want to make less money?

There is a whole bunch of info here about fulvic and humic acid. No mention of synthetic nute incompatibility. In fact, quite the opposite.

medteknutrients.com.au

Fulvic Acid in Hydroponics | Manic Botanix

Humates in Hydroponics Author G.Low and a member of the IHSS (International Humic Substance Society) closely collaborated on this story. The result is an article that is without a doubt the most…
medteknutrients.com.au medteknutrients.com.au
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and I didn’t say synthetic incompatibility. I said the need of a micro herd to metabolise it.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Shape Shifter said:
Congratulations for winning the "biggest self important asshole on the internet" award for today! It's quite an accomplishment.
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Not in the mood mate to be honest with you.

ever wondered why some of the best growers on this site don’t use bullshit potions?

If you want to buy a bottle with pointless additives where most are not able to be uptaken by the plant then crack on!

The award for least likely to research this shit for themselves goes to you today.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Shape Shifter said:
Congratulations for winning the "biggest self important asshole on the internet" award for today! It's quite an accomplishment.
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And FYI you can buy dry powder versions of Fulvic and Humic to go along with your jacks321 at a fraction of that cost but you keep doing you mate.
 
jondamon

jondamon

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Shape Shifter said:
This tosser is currently stalking my old comments and giving them HAHAs. Sounds pretty triggered to me.
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Just laughing at your flower fuel thread.

Not triggered just find it funny how you constantly bash on all the long serving members on RIU who are trying to steer you in the right direction.

Good luck with your flower fuel, which is just monopotassium phosphate with Magnesium sulphate and a few other pointless additives that plants can’t uptake.

funny though how I can’t actually find a picture of your own grows through your posts.

hmm wonder why!!!


and as for the laid comment. Spoken like a true jouvenile delinquent.

I’m a 40 year old man that’s been with the same lovely woman since I was 19.

I’ve got 2 kids and had a viscectomy probably all by the time you were still in your daddies nut sack!
 
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