any help greatly appriciated

ok so quick update on my grow. anesthesia are 6weeks old and 34 cm tall starting to flower now. their both have 4weeks before harvest. hopefully she will grow more. auto shark 2weeks them at 4weeks old only 11cm tall and she still has 4weeks till harvest. sites says only 6weeks but im gonna leave her for a additional 2weeks before harvest.
watering with canna coco A+B & Rhitzotonic.
water ph 5.9 - 6.1
soil ph 6 - 7
x1 anesthesia westland soil only - 34 cm tall - 6 weeks old
X1 Anesthesia MG& westland soil - 30 Cm tall - 6 weeks old
X1 Auto shark 90% westland soil 10% MG soil - 4 weeks old - 11cm tall
X1 Auto Black Rose Canna coco pro mix soil - 2weeks old
X1 Vision Northern Lights Canna coco pro mix soil. - 2 weeks old

my main question is why are my girls so small at 6weeks old?
I waterd last night added westland grow sure tomato feeding sticks, goes in the edge on the pots and all you do is water. npk 12-9-19
 

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markymark88

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Man I'm not much of an auto grower but it looks like you need to get those cfl's closer. My suggestion would be to put the cfl's on the 2 bigger ones only a few inches away halfway down the plants on the side. Also how far away is the led light? And what spectrum are all the cfl's and the led? The more blue or 6500k in cfl is going to grow short bushy plants. More red will induce a little stretch. It probably also has to do with genetics.
 

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my main question is why are my girls so small at 6weeks old?
I waterd last night added westland grow sure tomato feeding sticks, goes in the edge on the pots and all you do is water. npk 12-9-19
They look good to me. I wouldn't use "stick" feeding. Time release nutes are usually a problem with cannabis. I would mix a soil fertilizer with water and feed every watering.

The LED should be closer to the plants. I would put the CFLs in a clamp-on reflector and mount them to the tent legs. If you replaced them with Cree LED "lightbulbs" from Home Depot you'd get 30-40% more lumens per watt. The problem with those CFLs is that they're radiating lumens omnidirectionally. They're already low in lumens, and most of those lumens are going somewhere else due to no reflector.
 
1 of the main reasons I moved up my LED lights wa beacue it was burning my leafs on my anesthesia's. also CFL are on clip's clipped to the legs of the tent. I moved them up aswell as I wanted to stretch my girls abit. like I said they have 4 weeks left. hopefully they will jut go BANG and flower plus grow more. im looking to introduce a 300w CFL for VEG& Flower. I don't know if this would help or should I just carry on with my current set up.
 

ÉsÇ420PoT™

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Both of your lights are to high bro, I'd lower them. A good rule of thumb is put your hand above the tops of your plant, if the light burns your hand, then it's to close. Find a good balance to where its warm on your hand, but not hot. BTW that CFL ain't doing much how you have it. You need to have them super low and close to the plant to utilize it the best. That light right there is barley good enough for just one of those plants, let alone 4. I'd Stuck it within a few inches above right in the middle of those 2 tiny ones in the corner to help catch em up to the others a bit. Also another thing could be your soil... Either your soils to hot, or it's to thick to where it's not getting adequate growth of root structure, thus not growing big. It honestly could be a number of reasons... What are the temps in there? What kind of fertilizers are in this Soil you mention above as I've never heard of it?
 
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I'm gonna order the 300w cfl bulb for veg and flower this week. I'm gonna lower the lights abit see how that goes. To be honest this is a experimental grow. I just wanted to see what basic can deliver good yield and what strains are good. I'll post this week with the new lights. I'm using westland soil for 1 anesthesia the other 1 is in miracle grow and westland soil. And the shark is in westland soil. Northern lights and black rose are in canana coco pro mix soil.
 

sunny747

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How many watts are the LED's? if it's 3 watt leds the light can be pretty close depending on the degree of angle of the lens. 5 watt led's with a 60 degree lens will burn. 3 watts with 120 probably won't burn can be within a few inches of top cola. CFL's should be within inches.

If you are in week six you should have buds. Even in week 4. I can't see from the pics if they are budding or not. If they are not budding then you need to switch to 12/12 for a few days to induce flower. This sometimes happens with autos.

Something is definitely missing. You have a very good LED lamp. Do you know how many watts the total wattage draw of the light is? You want at least 30 watts of actual wattage per sqft with LED.

How many hours are you running the lights? I'd say ramp it up to 24 hours light and lower the lights. Maybe get better nutes. Fox Farms Trio, General Hydroponics, Advanced nutrients etc... Make sure you are giving them CalMag if using RO water.

They will finish when they finish. Don't go only by the weeks the breeder states. I understand that when they say 8 weeks that is 8 weeks with great conditions and 24 hours light. 18 hours light will cause them to take a few weeks longer. At least that's what I have read.
 
Ok so my led is 300w MarsHydro, full spectrum for veg and flower. She approx half a mitre from my girls. i have 4 Cfl and looking to buy a 300w cfl 100w . this week. I'm gonna take the 2 normal cfl light bulbs I bought from my local shop out of my tent and just have the 2 FCL and the 300w cfl bulb for veg and flower. I will lower my marshydro and see and how that goes.but to be honest I just wanted to stretch her out abit as Im getting abit worried about her height. Will she go BANG and just grow rapidly from now to the end? Both my girls are developing white hairs. So the budding process. I switched from 24 hour to 18_6 2days ago looking to finish and start the news on 18-6 hours and see how that goes. To be honest 24 hour for me didn't do that much. Ie reason why I change the light schedule. I'm trying to go as natural as possible so little nutes really.
 
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ok so here description of my LED'S
MarsHydro10 Bands for Indoor Plants Growth & Flower
Spectrum of Light: 430~440nm, 450~475nm 620~630nm, 650~660nm, and white
Real IR spectrum: 730nm
LED Output Power: 100pcs*3watt
100 W CFL Tube 3 CFL Bulbs.
like I said on my previous post im gonna add 300w CFL Bulb for V&F and take out the 2 CFL Bulbs and stand up the cfl tube. to be honest I think it could be a number of things. seens both Anesthesia where burnt I wondered if it was because of the LEDs to close and moved them up and no more yellow crispy leafs. yet she's not where she's ment to be at this stage. I honestly think I stunned her but I don't know how. As for nutes im currently adding canna coco A+B & Rhitzotonic. I have to be honest and admit that at the beginning of my Anesthesia I didn't add no nute at all at least for the 1st 3weeks of her life. my other 2babys are currently in canna coco and ive been adding rhitz and canna. my NL seems to be doing great she's all good my Black rose small and dark in green. anyways im starting to get a hint of smell everytime I open my tent so that's telling me something :0)
im gonna lower my bulbs but im leaving my leds where they are as I wasnt to stretch out my 2 anesthesia. anyways any1 reading I would not and repeat i would not recommend using miracle grow soil mixed with westland soil. as you can see from the pics. the 1 on the far left its the 1 with 1 with the mixed soil. as a result I can honestly report that it will stunt the plant and will not grow tall at all. take a look for your self. anyways ill pot a pic of my girl week by week to show how their doing. but only if ppl are intrested and maybe some of you can help me and advice me on certain things.
 
Ok so I waterd today so I thought I'll take some you guys advice and moved everything around. It looks better actually. So I added to reflectors on my cfl bulbs on the corner. I moved my anesthesia around and I did a height check 3 days ago she was standing at 34 cm today 3 days later she's at 40cm so 6cm grow every 3 days. If I'm right that's 12cm in growth a week or more. She's gonna be 7 weeks old in 3 days. And she's suppose to finish in the next 2 weeks but she's nowhere near that ie reason for leaving her a additional 2_3 weeks before harvest. Also today I ordered a 300w cfl from amazon very nice price I think. As soon as she arrives I'm gonna add her and bright up my tent lol hopefully this won't disturb my main lights witch are marshydro 300w full spec. Anyways I'm gonna post up some pics. Like before comments and advice greatly appreciated.
 

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