America is fucked... Unless we legalize weed!

a mongo frog said:

if we legalize it who would buy it? itll be every where.

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The only way it could be legalized and help the economy would be to do it something like the tobacco industry. Crops are rated and sold at auction to processors who then market it selling it to outlets for resale.

It it would be made legal, as in everyone could legally grow and sell pot, many growers would not declare their profits, they would not pay taxes, or not pay their full amount of taxes. Those who grow and sell now don't pay taxes so what would make anyone think that they would suddenly pay taxes to the government that for so many years would have put them in prison for what they were doing?

There would need to be an entirely new segment of the economy created, from growing to final retail sales, where each sale along the way would be taxed, just like tobacco. The grading process would assure quality so a buyer would know that if they want to purchase some certain strain or quality they would receive what they paid for.

Anything short of that sort of system would do little for the nation economically.

It could become an export.. if we legalize many other countries will follow in suit, then we will find a new export product..

malignant said:

It could become an export.. if we legalize many other countries will follow in suit, then we will find a new export product..

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If every country legalised why would they import it from you at all? Its not only the USA that grow pot

Pot can't help you guys now, I'm pretty sure nothing can. You hit the debt ceiling a few months ago, how long do you think itll take till that money (just over 2 trillion) is burnt through too? Your Government only managed to cut something like 60 billion from the budget, it's a joke.

Your wars are costing too much, there's too much "general" public spending and it has to stop eventually...it'll either be a massive shake-up of how your Government does business or default and you learn Chinese (China owns over 1.17trillion in Treasury Bonds,and they'll want their money back).

I gave the 6 peppers I pulled today that we will not use to my neighbor. If I could legally grow Marijuana I could probably grow it and spend the money, tax is included at every cash register I have ever seen. If it/Marijuana is not taxed straight up the money is taxed when I spend it. Let me get a state permit to grow and I will start a Pissing contest about paying tax on how many pounds or how much each plant produced. I already have a unused TIN MAKE THAT A PART OF THE GET YOUr GROW Stamp from the state. I will not complain if I have to pay 10% on sell of an ounce of produce if I get to spend the other 90%. That would buy a lot of Miracle Grow. And you organic growers wheres the photo of your Okra? I do not recall okra above eye height back on the farm. Related expenses for my last Permit concealed carry: finger print $20 permit $105 so how much is the right to grow my own and stop the sch wag killing people at the border? Just looking MMJ wholesaler was $2000 a pound and $6 for a 6 inch clone and there was a waiting list for tests to be a producer so there must be a supply side already in place. Now is the time to get self sufficient.

grizlbr said:

View attachment 1842872I gave the 6 peppers I pulled today that we will not use to my neighbor. If I could legally grow Marijuana I could probably grow it and spend the money, tax is included at every cash register I have ever seen. If it/Marijuana is not taxed straight up the money is taxed when I spend it. Let me get a state permit to grow and I will start a Pissing contest about paying tax on how many pounds or how much each plant produced. I already have a unused TIN MAKE THAT A PART OF THE GET YOUr GROW Stamp from the state. I will not complain if I have to pay 10% on sell of an ounce of produce if I get to spend the other 90%. That would buy a lot of Miracle Grow. And you organic growers wheres the photo of your Okra? I do not recall okra above eye height back on the farm. Related expenses for my last Permit concealed carry: finger print $20 permit $105 so how much is the right to grow my own and stop the sch wag killing people at the border? Just looking MMJ wholesaler was $2000 a pound and $6 for a 6 inch clone and there was a waiting list for tests to be a producer so there must be a supply side already in place. Now is the time to get self sufficient.

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I think youre living in a dream there dude. With full legalisation you could grow all you want for yourself, but every Tom, Dick and Harry would be growing to sell. You'd probably be lucky to get $200/lb let alone $2000. Think tobacco prices at best.

First thing we need to do is get rid of Big FARMA and their lobbyist. Reform the FDA or just get rid of those asshole and other Fed dept's. Shrink this bloated government. Give the power back to the people.

Ringsixty said:

First thing we need to do is get rid of Big FARMA and their lobbyist. Reform the FDA or just get rid of those asshole and other Fed dept's. Shrink this bloated government. Give the power back to the people.

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The Federal Government have no right to regulate marijuana the way it does currently, but they're just being let for some reason. The 10th Amendment says so, so why are you all sitting on your hands and letting it be so? The people have the power,they just have to start using it.

I think we are fucked no matter what at this point but being able to grow my weed legally would make being fucked easyer to deal with.

Brick Top said:

The only way it could be legalized and help the economy would be to do it something like the tobacco industry. Crops are rated and sold at auction to processors who then market it selling it to outlets for resale.

It it would be made legal, as in everyone could legally grow and sell pot, many growers would not declare their profits, they would not pay taxes, or not pay their full amount of taxes. Those who grow and sell now don't pay taxes so what would make anyone think that they would suddenly pay taxes to the government that for so many years would have put them in prison for what they were doing?

There would need to be an entirely new segment of the economy created, from growing to final retail sales, where each sale along the way would be taxed, just like tobacco. The grading process would assure quality so a buyer would know that if they want to purchase some certain strain or quality they would receive what they paid for.

Anything short of that sort of system would do little for the nation economically.

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so, in the future, people will pay tax on opium poppies?

how far should this go? thyme and peppers tax?

people are forbidden to grow any plant thats profitable without a license?

lol, what a fucking nutso society.

"open this door or we will break it down! we have it on reasonable suspicion that you are growing your own food!"

"uh and spices"

but as it is (just the current nutso society)

"growing your own medicine is illegal! open this door or we will break it down! then we are gonna jail you for a long time or make you bankrupt!"

or in other words

"buy your medicine or we are going to make your life, living hell"



again , what a fucking nutso society.

lol if we take it away from the medicine part.

"you are getting mildly inebriated with something actually healthier than what we want you to consume! surrender or die!"

Pot is a recreational drug, recreational items always have a sin tax. Plus they couldn't tax personal growing, only if you sold it.

Be realistic man, don't just post sillyness.

if every person growing it which i think would range from the older medicators to young trying their luck, 10% tax per kilo of weed is worth more then a kilo of gold by 6, mother nature will always win if we stop paying to try to stop her then thats one gain, plus people will be less stressed from not having to worry of their door being kicked in, jobs open up for drivers, cutters, shops front and back, the only downside is we as the people will be taking alot of money from the war on drugs, the money from pharmacys who produce drug test for prisons and schools and the people who also trade in stock in private prisons for....well yes "drug dealers", baby teething powder has gone up from under £1 to over £4 to deture cocaine dealers from mixing it in with the cocaine or make them pay more money for it, who loses out, not the chemist or the producer or the drug dealer but the mum trying to help her kid. the people who work and pay tax, how much of that tax is spent on the war on drugs? maybe 1-2% a month to only then go and score with fear of being caught for something that makes you feel good (some one on this forum said depressed...dont worry there is a strain for that), we would know what strain if we wasnt paying for ourselves to be f'd in the a

GMZ, legalizing marijuana won't really solve anything. Yeah it may generate a small amount of cash,But thats irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

The real problem is "wall Street executives" are running our political system (which is fucking insane). People Like (Henry Paulson),(Larry Summers), (Tim Geithner) ,( Ben Burnanke) to name a few, are Top wall street executives (CEO's of major investment banks) , Well they were until they bankrupted major investment banks like Goldman Sach's , Myeril Lynch Leemahn brothers and sent us into a major debt crisis that effected the whole world.

Now that these people and there are many more than i named have bankrupted the banks , they have been promoted to the federal reserve, Treasury,(and /or) are Chief economists to the president.

No joke. The top CEO's of investment banks stole billions of dollars from us tax payers and were in charge of bankrupting our country and banks have now been given high political positions. Do you see anything wrong with this ? These people pretty much ran a global ponzy scheme and got away with it. Then made the tax payers pick up the bill. THIS IS THE REAL PROBLEM because their still in office and will continue to robb us.

Hate to drag this thread out but Im new here...

So do "we" really want weed legalized? Or do we want it decriminalized? Personally I want it decriminalized. At least under prescription pills etc. Whats the worst that can happen with a proliferation of marijuana growers selling? You stay non violent, you make cash, you stimulate the local economies etc.

yes dont legalize decriminalize and then buy and vaporize. lol

Great book title!

d6520 said:

if they legalize it... it would put me out of bizness...

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and that would be a good thing

a mongo frog said:

if we legalize it who would buy it? itll be every where.

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thats silly people still buy cigarettes and alcohol, yet its everywhere.

Gmz said:

I don't know if you guys have heard, but America has hit the debt limit, at 14.3 Trillion dollars. So as you all know, we're fucked. America is pretty much some what on top of the world right now, with the strongest military force. That might spark up some wars with other countries, while they're looking at us some what vulnerable trying to get our act together. but put that aside. If we legalize marijuana, and tax the fuck out of it, it can maybe easily get us out of debt. Think about it... Being able to walk into your local 7-11 and be able to buy a pack of marijuana cigarettes, or something like that.

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Along those lines One of the biggest real benefits to decriminalizing MJ is to stop the International black market trade importing MJ into the US and draining capital. In some ways this is as big a deal as the US becoming self sufficient in energy and stopping the import of black gold.

The tax is not really that helpfull. Its just another way to take money away from people for a bunch of politicians that only know how to spend. It lowers productivity and only serves to move money in a vicious circle, allowing a privledged few to skim.