Am i paranoide or are these ladies having some issues?

TooRare2Die

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  • <LSD not sure if you can see the discoloring on the leaves and the fan leaf pointing straight up/ > LST the NL >NL Trainwreck not sure why the side of the leaf is yellowing
    so guys and gals zoom in take as look tell me what you think about my babies.. do they seem to need anything are they looking ok do they need nutes etc.. if the pics arent good enough let me know ill take more and focus on the funked up leaves.​




 

TooRare2Die

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View attachment 2676030it keeps reaching.. they plants have been together since clone the nodes on this LSD are alot further apart than the northern lights.. as i said if the pics arent good enough to see the so called issues let me know ill take more
 

lospsi

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they seem good to me only in the last photo there is a little yellowing,ok it's time to give some info,age, soil,temps,rh,nutes etc.
 

TooRare2Die

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ok temps are between 65-70, rh flux 55/60 ive had them about little over a week no nutes right now they are in roots organics 707 soil ph was about 6.8 water is tap water ive put in a big plastic tote so temp stay room temp.. i tested my tap water its normal.. watered them twice since ive had them.. last time was sunday using the couple inches deep of dry dirt method to water.. havent over watered them never had the leaves curl up just those few yellow spots and odd looking leaves.. using cfls at the moment 6500k cfls which they seem to really enjoy.. they will be switched over to a 1000w hps when its flower time.
 

simisimis

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plants look healthy to me except for that stretching one and that small one. On my first grow I had exactly the same behavior. But my problem was temp bellow 65F, overwatering, badly draining soil and low wattage. if you say you're not overwatering, do you have fan? is the soil hard or airy? how many watts in total o you have and how far do you keep them from plants? please note that optimum temps are 70-80 daytime, and ~10 degrees lower at night.
about a small one.. do you feed her anything? how big is the cup? can it be root bound? does the cup have holes for water to run off?
 

TooRare2Die

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i do have a fan lightly blowing them, soil is nice and fluffed didnt have to add anything to it 707 soil has plenty of stuff already. they drain fine the little one came from seed its still in a dixie cup and i havent given it anything nor the other plants.. to be honest i dont remember the wattage on the lights its two t12s with 6500k.. i figured i could use that at the moment since its only those 2/3 plants.. i was running my 1000watt mh on them but i figured the amount of juice that thing pulls just wouldnt be worth it for a couple of plants at the moment.. light is about 2-3 inches from the strecthing fan leaf.. temps honestly usually stay around 70.. just confuses the hell out of me how the Northern Lights is growing so well and the LSD(stretchy one) is growing all weird..
also i saw something weird i forgot to mention.. im pretty damn sure i saw the tip of one of the roots in the LSD bucket near one of the drainage holes.. a white little thing about half the size of pencil lead.. not sure how the hell it grew down so far so quick.. as i said i havent given them nutes or anything.. to be completely honest i havent even thought about it really because i dont know anything about them really.. how to give them how to know the right measurments etc.. idk if youve got any ideas please im all ears.. id like to atleast grow the LSD and NL to finish..
 

simisimis

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well on a lamp it should be written,. if it's not high output and it's 4 feet long, it should be 40 watter. two of them... well I don't know. sounds poor for me.. I would use 100W of cfls on one of my plant, if having two, 150W around both for the first 3-4 weeks. You have three plants... IMO 2x 40watters is not sufficient. especially with those two bigger ones.. you need at least 2-4 more... ofc 1000W is sort of overachiever for only 3 plants... can you get some splitters and get some 40W cfls and place them around the plants?

you would be surprised how fast roots can grow in a humid airy fluffy soil. what size is your pot? how long have you been vegging those plants? how long do you still plan on vegging them?
also keep in mind that when plant sprouts, it shoots chute leaves upwards but at the same time it drops tap root downwards, in a week or so tap root reaches 4 sometimes 6 inches so it is better idea to start in a pot that is 4-6 inches in height in order not to stun growth.
 

simisimis

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oh and do not wait for deficiencies to appear... you can water bigger plants with the 1/2 manufacturer recommended nutes dosage, 1/4 for the Trainwreck(god I love the name of this strain :)))). What nutes do you have? what npks, brand? any additives?
 

TooRare2Die

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well i wasnt going to use any nutes until flower.. but i woke up this morning and on two of the fan leaves of the LSD the very tip turned yellow.. i almost missed it.. now i gotta figure out what the hell is going on with it
 

htidwelshy

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oh and do not wait for deficiencies to appear... you can water bigger plants with the 1/2 manufacturer recommended nutes dosage, 1/4 for the Trainwreck(god I love the name of this strain :)))). What nutes do you have? what npks, brand? any additives?
I've got 9 Trainwreck 6 days into flowering really excited about them too!
 

TooRare2Die

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after my last post i went to water my plants... the water ph was 7.0 when i added it, (high right?) well my run off was 4.0 and shortly after that i discovered a small gnat issue but ive got azamax for that. the northern lights has one fan leaf thats nice and green but has a brown tip. with all that said. (all 3 plants run off was 4.0 BTW after water) I cant do anything about anything until the soil dries up and i can add the azamax to my soil and use PH UP id assume to bring it to 6.3-6.8. i assume?? hell IDK some say dont use PH UP Im a little frustrated at the moment hopefully the fan will dry the dirt in the next few days before a gnat orgy start in my dirt..

did i mention im using roots organics 707 soil? pretty sure if my soil issue continues i wont be using this mix again. Time to wait it out i guess..
 

simisimis

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man, here's my story, I was getting crazy about ph in my soil. Everytime I got some yellowing of leaf necrosis or chlorosis. BTW my tap water 8.5-8.8pH. I was making it more acidic, to be somewhere in 6.2-6.8. But later on I took Kite High advice. Then I read a book, other experienced growers threads. Time and efforts were wasted. pH in soil is rarely a problem. MJ is pH tolerant and soil has a buffering attribute and it fixes pH by itself. Read through this thread only 3 pages, but there lies your answer to pH control :)

So after I quit upping or downing my pH, I did not notice any difference in my grow.

do not know a lot about 707, but from what I read it's quite light nuted, I'm really surprised how you are going without any nutes.. those would help you establish bigger foliage, root mass etc.. otherwise you are not going to yield much...
 

TooRare2Die

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LOL i had a dream lastnight my trainwreck came out of the dirt and the airflow was blowing around the room because the stem is so skinny i know they makes nutes for skinny stalk issues.
with that said i think im gonna have to buy some nutes.. what would u recommend at this point in my veg stage? the brand doesnt matter because i actually have a bunch of free samples coming from dynagro and peruvian gold amongst a few others.. hopefully they send what type of nutes you would recommend we shall see..
 

simisimis

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if I would be living where I could access dyna-gro, I would only 3 different nutes for all of the growth. Dyna-gro folliage-pro (through out the grow), dynagro mag-pro from 4th-5th week till the harvest and dynagro protekt for fat and healthy stems. If i'd have to chose only two, I would leave protekt behind. cause those nutes have not only npk values you are looking for, but also well balanced trace elements you might need through the grow. When you will start growing like really fast and fat plants, to keep their folliage green you might need additional something like blood meal for extra N.
That would be my call.. Maybe I'm parroting, but at least i'm parroting trusted sources...
 

NoBarriers

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I am going to go with paranoid. The plants look fine. You can love your plants to death so let them be and don't over do it.
good luck with your grow
 
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