Am I feeding them too much?

Porky101

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I would just pick off the shittiest leaves then. they are not doing much for you at this point, opens up air flow lets the light get on the good active leaves

Can you check the roots at all are they in a net pot inside a pot or is this a table and you cant see the roots at all.

You check for spider mites leaves look like spider mite damage to me.


The roots are nice. Growing out of the pot into the tray. Nice and white and looks like a skeleton.

I will pick off the leaves, but for the next run, I know where I went wrong, all about learning.
 

Porky101

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I would just pick off the shittiest leaves then. they are not doing much for you at this point, opens up air flow lets the light get on the good active leaves

Can you check the roots at all are they in a net pot inside a pot or is this a table and you cant see the roots at all.

You check for spider mites leaves look like spider mite damage to me.

Yes I have spider mites.

I dont want to spray anything onto my plants at this point...
 

Kushash

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The roots are nice. Growing out of the pot into the tray. Nice and white and looks like a skeleton.

I will pick off the leaves, but for the next run, I know where I went wrong, all about learning.
Have you been checking the calibration of your PH meter with the test solutions?
 

Bernie420

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Yes I have spider mites.

I dont want to spray anything onto my plants at this point...
Right on but its still early enough you can spray just about any product that you would spray in veg to kill them for about the next week to week and a half.

BUT just spraying water will kill the adults. every four days.

And if that were my plants in week 3 I would do a neem oil spray now and then in three days do it again then just go to a water spray. If you have the cash I would do a mighty wash spray three days after the neem spray then go to just water.
 

Porky101

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Right on but its still early enough you can spray just about any product that you would spray in veg to kill them for about the next week to week and a half.

BUT just spraying water will kill the adults. every four days.

And if that were my plants in week 3 I would do a neem oil spray now and then in three days do it again then just go to a water spray. If you have the cash I would do a mighty wash spray three days after the neem spray then go to just water.

Thank you for your advice.

I was always under the impression you NEVER SPRAY THEM ONCE THEY SHOW FLOWERS. They have small flowers, Day 28 flower.....I would rather spray them with plain water every day.
 

Bernie420

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Thank you for your advice.

I was always under the impression you NEVER SPRAY THEM ONCE THEY SHOW FLOWERS. They have small flowers, Day 28 flower.....I would rather spray them with plain water every day.
if you spray them every day you'll get pm and bud rot faster and then you can learn about those things.
 

Porky101

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if you spray them every day you'll get pm and bud rot faster and then you can learn about those things.

I disagree.

I spray every day including flower with no bud rot. You get bud rot from cool damp conditions. Not from spraying plants. Bud rot is from high humidity within the bud itself, you can and I have got bud rot even if the humidity is ultra low and no spraying.
 

Bernie420

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I disagree.

I spray every day including flower with no bud rot. You get bud rot from cool damp conditions. Not from spraying plants. Bud rot is from high humidity within the bud itself, you can and I have got bud rot even if the humidity is ultra low and no spraying.
are you listening to yourself

you disagree about my bud rot post yet you state that you have gotten budrot with low humidity and no spraying.

I guess spraying plants everyday is the sure fire way to keep bud rot and pm away...who would of thunk that.
 

Porky101

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are you listening to yourself

you disagree about my bud rot post yet you state that you have gotten budrot with low humidity and no spraying.

I guess spraying plants everyday is the sure fire way to keep bud rot and pm away...who would of thunk that.



Yes I do listen to myself, I talk to myself quite often. You should try it sometime.

What are you trying to tell me?

Ill repeat what I have said, spraying the plants wont increase budrot, powdery mildew. Rather high humidity, low temps will. If you spray in hot conditions, it quickly evaporates and no budrot. If you spray in cold conditions, then the likelyhood of budrot will increase.

Point im making, its about temperature not about spraying....
 

InTheValley

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Hi all!

I have been feeding my plants an EC of 2.0 Week 3 flower. (started flower food end of week 2)

They are still showing progression of deficiency's. I have increased to 2.2EC and still deficiency's increase, no burn.

How much is too much food? I am going to go to 2.4 and 2.6.
what light you use? I cant remember, Cobs right?
 

Bernie420

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Yes I do listen to myself, I talk to myself quite often. You should try it sometime.

What are you trying to tell me?

Ill repeat what I have said, spraying the plants wont increase budrot, powdery mildew. Rather high humidity, low temps will. If you spray in hot conditions, it quickly evaporates and no budrot. If you spray in cold conditions, then the likelyhood of budrot will increase.

Point im making, its about temperature not about spraying....

I cant debate you on this as my mind will explode..

If you spray for spidermites every day your going to get budrot more than likely if you dont your name is lucky.

Now go do it and prove me wrong

Post pics of the bud rot when you harvest so we all can see.
 

Porky101

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I cant debate you on this as my mind will explode..

If you spray for spidermites every day your going to get budrot more than likely if you dont your name is lucky.

Now go do it and prove me wrong

Post pics of the bud rot when you harvest so we all can see.

LOL why you getting frustrated. Please don't.


Sure I will post pics of my bud when it's ready. Aslong as it's dry conditions the bud will be fine. Spraying it and making it wet momentarily won't all of a sudden give you bud rot.
 
I'm just about to enter week 8 of flower with my Amnesia Haze...might have a few spider mites...can I still spray? Is it best to just stick with plain water at this stage of flower? should I spray in the heat of the midday sun to give the water the best chance of evaporating after it's done its job with the mites? How will they affect my yield? Thx in advance :)
 

InTheValley

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Yes cobs.
what watts bro?

Im using Luminus cobs, and i have 300 watts available. I rearly use all 300, maybe peak them for a hour or so a day, but usually im around 200-225 watts.

I dont use dtw or ebb and flow, i use cocoloco, more soil media side. So, i cant really give a ton of info your your situation, but rule of thumb is watts=PPMs.

You wouldnt give a 3week veg, the same nutes as a 3 week flower, but you also wouldnt give a 3 week veg, the same amount of light of a 3 week flower, make sense?

If you know your total PAR at the very top your canopy can get best penetration over your area, You must let the veg plant grow with the light.

If you know that your max limit is 900 PAR, that is the amount you need for the last 3 weeks of flower, and at the beginning of flower set, your PAR should be no more then 450 PAR at that point of the grow. When you flip to flower, You should have HALF available PAR Left to use till finish. So, if you have a 10 week flower, you should be increasing light PAR, 450 worth, divided by 7, and i say seven, because last 3 weeks of flower is maxed at 1000.

So, from flower beginning, you should be adding about 65 PAR per week, till maxed at week 7 to finish. At week 3 of flower, FOR YOU, Your PAR shouldnt be more then 675 this week.

AND, you max PPM, shouldnt be more then 900 EVER, and this week, your flower PPM should be 650-675 PPM this week, or 1.3EC



Same with Nutes, slowly increase PPMs per week.
 

InTheValley

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Let me put it like this bro, Im in week 6 of flower of my CBD Cherry Wine, My PAR is around 600. Im able to spin my plant during the day, so i have 2 cobs with reflectors, ( 2x4500k and 2x3500k) so, every 30-45 minutes, i turn my pot 1/4. So it gets 650 par from 2 cobs, and when it spins, it reduces to around 450PAR. But im in max mode, because i have 3 weeks left. My PPMs for this week, is 400PPM. That includes my MAGsulf,and megacrop,

im on a F-W-W-W schedule, so F day, 400PPM, then RO, RO, RO, Feed, RO RO RO 6.8PH. So this week, she got 1.5Grams MegaCrop and 0.5 gram of Epsom, ( half Gallon RO)

I didnt have to feed this plant any megacrop for 60 days, because cocoloco is freakin loaded with shit,lol. Ive failed pretty much to some degree on all my grows up till this one, when i finally learned PPMs and PAR disbursement over the entire grow length.
 

Kushash

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Let me put it like this bro, Im in week 6 of flower of my CBD Cherry Wine, My PAR is around 600. Im able to spin my plant during the day, so i have 2 cobs with reflectors, ( 2x4500k and 2x3500k) so, every 30-45 minutes, i turn my pot 1/4. So it gets 650 par from 2 cobs, and when it spins, it reduces to around 450PAR. But im in max mode, because i have 3 weeks left. My PPMs for this week, is 400PPM. That includes my MAGsulf,and megacrop,

im on a F-W-W-W schedule, so F day, 400PPM, then RO, RO, RO, Feed, RO RO RO 6.8PH. So this week, she got 1.5Grams MegaCrop and 0.5 gram of Epsom, ( half Gallon RO)

I didnt have to feed this plant any megacrop for 60 days, because cocoloco is freakin loaded with shit,lol. Ive failed pretty much to some degree on all my grows up till this one, when i finally learned PPMs and PAR disbursement over the entire grow length.
Don't say failed. You made mistakes.
I've never had a grow where I could not count 10 or more mistakes just in veg.
Have you grown CBD plants before?
I'm on my 1st CBD Grow (CBD JAM Delicious seeds) 4 weeks into flower and can't wait to see what it is like.
 

InTheValley

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Don't say failed. You made mistakes.
I've never had a grow where I could not count 10 or more mistakes just in veg.
Have you grown CBD plants before?
I'm on my 1st CBD Grow (CBD JAM Delicious seeds) 4 weeks into flower and can't wait to see what it is like.
Yeah, i guess your right. I still got meds, just taste like crap, and horrible looking most of the time. Gets the job done tho,lol..

This is the first time ive grown CBD. started 12/12 from seed, sexed in 16 days, topped, flipped to 18/6 for 14 days, topped again, flipped back to 12/12 at day 30 from seed. this is day 73 from seed, says its a 9 week strain, starting to fatten up now. I havent been able to find good pics of Cherry Wine on line, but these buds look bigger then 95% of the reviews on Utube, and still have 3-4 weeks left. this is in a 2 gallon suprroot pot. Total MegaCrop nute ppms to date, 650PPMs total. Pics do no justice, buds are bigger then the look.
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InTheValley

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they are starting to yellow out, but because Im giving very little nitrogen now, im expecting this. Id rather under feed, then over feed, and tips are burning a tad already. BUT, i dont have blotchy, spotty messup crunchy ass leafs anymore,lol.. I have to actually figure out support because a few are getting heavy.

Im freakin estatic over this grow thus far, for CBD, not knowing what to expect and all..

22%cbd is what is expected of it.
 
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