Alright Barack Obama supporters, now what?

medicineman

New Member
Youve all been duped by yourselves, but im sure you've all had help. Next vote, don't act like the only choices you have are dictated by the news outlets. There is always another choice, and most of you know that they are kept out of your sight on purpose, so why do you buy into the bullshit? Dont be so weak.

Other than that, the only answer to this question "why" is campaign speeches. Since Obama doesnt have much of a voting record or a relevent history, all you have is his speeches. Who can tell me what every president does with the promises they make to get your vote?

Get it yet? Stop being pussies and open your eyes to all of your choices. Cut the brainwash boxes so many of you love to stare into every night and do something worth while.

It must be so nice to be you. You certainly have a large disdain for your fellow Americans. Just the fact that they overcame the rascist curse this election should be something to celebrate. Yes, we are not all gifted with 120+ IQs, But you can bet your ass Obama is. The editor of the Harvard Law Review for Christs sake. This man is more qualified to be president than the last 6 presidents, especially the last one. Being able to think and make decisions based on logic, not think tank persuasion makes him the most intellectual president in quite a while. I agree, we have to wait and see, but I feel pretty confident he will make a lot of correct decisions. We'll begin to see when he starts announcing his cabinet. He already made one good choice, Joe Biden.
 

dknob

New Member
Do you have any idea what it feels like to be completely alienated from things that are so important? The only politician that ever legitimately represented my beliefs gets called a nutjob and crazy, WITH NO EXPLANATION. Hes the only politician ive ever seen be so consistent and honest, Ron Paul of course, but he gets shot down by the box watching maniacs. You don't need a high IQ, just get off the poison and get off the television, even someone of below average intelligence will start to see what I see, which is BULLSHIT EVERYWHERE. And I mean EVERYWHERE man. Its very frustrating. Im more angry than anything else, Im very torn. One day I want to say FUCK IT ALL and continue where I left off 2 years ago trying to make myself wealthy, next day, im trying to wake people up, learn more, get the word out for events. Next day I realize if everything were perfect, itd be fucked up again in 50 years as soon as people "relaxed" back to the box. Man politics is about as pointless as getting rich. None of it means anything. I feel blank. what a waste of time

Youve all been duped by yourselves, but im sure you've all had help. Next vote, don't act like the only choices you have are dictated by the news outlets. There is always another choice, and most of you know that they are kept out of your sight on purpose, so why do you buy into the bullshit? Dont be so weak.

Other than that, the only answer to this question "why" is campaign speeches. Since Obama doesnt have much of a voting record or a relevent history, all you have is his speeches. Who can tell me what every president does with the promises they make to get your vote?

Get it yet? Stop being pussies and open your eyes to all of your choices. Cut the brainwash boxes so many of you love to stare into every night and do something worth while.

It must be so nice to be you. You certainly have a large disdain for your fellow Americans. Just the fact that they overcame the rascist curse this election should be something to celebrate. Yes, we are not all gifted with 120+ IQs, But you can bet your ass Obama is. The editor of the Harvard Law Review for Christs sake. This man is more qualified to be president than the last 6 presidents, especially the last one. Being able to think and make decisions based on logic, not think tank persuasion makes him the most intellectual president in quite a while. I agree, we have to wait and see, but I feel pretty confident he will make a lot of correct decisions. We'll begin to see when he starts announcing his cabinet. He already made one good choice, Joe Biden.
 

dknob

New Member
And BTW what racist curse? Did you really think 51% of America was racist? I have not lived long, but ive only ever met skinheads when I was tweaking, and my first girlfriends dad was some wizard(haha) of the california kkk.

Lets forget completely about race. Black president, so what. Female president, so what. If they continue to fuck us, I want them to meet the old fate of tyrants just as badly as any white presidents/politicians.

The racists come out to make themselves look nuts once in awhile(ive seen it on youtube), but they've clearly lost. Martin Luther King Jr did alot for equality in America, and I do love that man, but Barack Obama should not be viewed as any equal rights hero. He used the platform King helped to build, and we have seen King's dreams come to fruition now that a half-black man holds the highest office in the nation.

Congrats, now move on.
 

medicineman

New Member
Do you have any idea what it feels like to be completely alienated from things that are so important? The only politician that ever legitimately represented my beliefs gets called a nutjob and crazy, WITH NO EXPLANATION. Hes the only politician ive ever seen be so consistent and honest, Ron Paul of course, but he gets shot down by the box watching maniacs. You don't need a high IQ, just get off the poison and get off the television, even someone of below average intelligence will start to see what I see, which is BULLSHIT EVERYWHERE. And I mean EVERYWHERE man. Its very frustrating. Im more angry than anything else, Im very torn. One day I want to say FUCK IT ALL and continue where I left off 2 years ago trying to make myself wealthy, next day, im trying to wake people up, learn more, get the word out for events. Next day I realize if everything were perfect, itd be fucked up again in 50 years as soon as people "relaxed" back to the box. Man politics is about as pointless as getting rich. None of it means anything. I feel blank. what a waste of time
Well, sorry man, I hope you can pull yourself out of this dillema and start caring again. Yes we are a race of dummies, but it all boils down to your comfort level. If you are comfortable with your life and see everything as copasetic, you will not vote for change, if you are uncomfortable, life is difficult, you will vote for change. Now comes the difficult part, choosing what change you want. Yes there were a few candidates in the primaries, but most scared the PTB so they were eliminated (By the vote of course), and the vote was massaged by the MSM. The brazen fact is the MSM is owned by corporate giants, so always will they try and make a case for the corporatist, actually the one most corporatistic, as they are all corporatists. So I guess I'm saying chill out, Maybe Obama can turn the tide enough to allow a person like Ron Paul to come to the forefront.
 

dknob

New Member
They massaged Obama real good as well, thats kinda the point im trying to make. This guy is not detached from the 'old boys club' as they say. And yes, If things get as bad as I think they will, it could very well pave the way for a Ron Paul.

Well, sorry man, I hope you can pull yourself out of this dillema and start caring again. Yes we are a race of dummies, but it all boils down to your comfort level. If you are comfortable with your life and see everything as copasetic, you will not vote for change, if you are uncomfortable, life is difficult, you will vote for change. Now comes the difficult part, choosing what change you want. Yes there were a few candidates in the primaries, but most scared the PTB so they were eliminated (By the vote of course), and the vote was massaged by the MSM. The brazen fact is the MSM is owned by corporate giants, so always will they try and make a case for the corporatist, actually the one most corporatistic, as they are all corporatists. So I guess I'm saying chill out, Maybe Obama can turn the tide enough to allow a person like Ron Paul to come to the forefront.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Same shit, different box. I'm still waiting to hear a plan of his. I think the last thing he voted on was in favor of the bailout. But that was so long ago, I can see how people forgot about that.

Maybe he's brainstorming with those nice people from the mortgage industry he likes. Bet they'll have another neat plan. I can't wait.
 

asher187

Well-Known Member
WTF is the "old Boys club?" because your definition definitely is different from the rest of the nations if you think Obama so easily fits into such a catagory. Your just a bitter person without purpose or cause. You make some Arguments that no person of intelligence can deny, however this is the real world. Where media (weather the net or TV) is the primary source of information and is tilted towards the wants of the wealthy/powerful. We are not idiots because we don't like your worthless Ron Paul. He's just another guy, fallible just like all the others. A good guy today, and a bad guy tomorrow. 4 Years ago people obviously loved Bush enough to re-elect the fool. Corruption and power go hand in hand, it's all part of the game. There will never be an honest world so long as people want what is someone else's. And that will never go away so get off your high horse and get over it the US isn't going to jump onto your 'bandwagon' you sound like an Aspie. Smart but socially crippled.

They massaged Obama real good as well, thats kinda the point im trying to make. This guy is not detached from the 'old boys club' as they say. And yes, If things get as bad as I think they will, it could very well pave the way for a Ron Paul.
 

joepro

Well-Known Member
. We are not idiots because we don't like your worthless Ron Paul. He's just another guy, fallible just like all the others.
worthless ron paul?:o:o:o
If you disagree or even dislike ron paul, I can understand that.
...but worthless?
My hero, Fuckin worthless?!
And fallible?:o

:wall:
 

cleatis

Well-Known Member
its not thier fault Vi, his agenda has been his secret, dont worry he gonna lets us all know soon



i hope he lets the people who knocked down those towers hear all of us soon!!

by invading pakistans ungoverned region of waziristan and start shooting peoples faces off:blsmoke::mrgreen:
And then what happens when we go there and they jump the next border?
 

asher187

Well-Known Member
worthless ron paul?:o:o:o
If you disagree or even dislike ron paul, I can understand that.
...but worthless?
My hero, Fuckin worthless?!
And fallible?:o

:wall:
Most of the nation doesn't even know what he's accomplished, he has zero political cred. He's full of ideas, none of which has been effectively used in his home state. I mean what has he done for Texas Lately?:confused:

besides talk like all politicians do
 

dknob

New Member
Youre one of these worthless idiots on his high horse about how "this is reality, dont try to change it". Yeah, you're fucking stupid when you vote for the bank owned candidates, yeah, you're fucking stupid if you think socialism is an answer, and yeah, you're fucking stupid if you watch television all day. I dont care what is popular, change can happen, but because of people like you, it can take a long time. You seem rational to most, but to me you are another one of these "man you complain too much, you're right, but fuck it". If you're going to be another one of those repeaters just shut your mouth and

deal.

Most of the nation doesn't even know what he's accomplished, he has zero political cred. He's full of ideas, none of which has been effectively used in his home state. I mean what has he done for Texas Lately?:confused:

besides talk like all politicians do
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Obama said he was going to go through the federal budget line by line to find wasteful spending to cut. He is tackling the ecomony first thing, the federal budget is directly linked to the economy. I can't wait for the federal budget reporting, I bet the crap they spend taxpayer money on is astounding.

Once all that wasteful spending has been found, I hope he pushes for trials and jail for those fat cats.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Most of the nation doesn't even know what he's accomplished, he has zero political cred. He's full of ideas, none of which has been effectively used in his home state. I mean what has he done for Texas Lately?:confused:

besides talk like all politicians do
District 14 is who he works for, not Texas.

Committee Membership:
House Committee on Financial Services
Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy Trade and Technology - Ranking Minority Member
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
House Committee on Foreign Affairs
Subcommittee on International Organizations Human Rights and Oversight
Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere
Joint Economic Committee

Here is something he tried to get passed back in July 2002.
Government Mortgage Schemes Distort the Housing Market

first paragraph

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone.

The question I ask of you is this, Why do people like you keep electing shitheads to Congress who think stuff like this is unimportant until it's too late?
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Because the people voting for them haven't been hit by any tough economic times. They are to wrapped up in themselves to take a look around at the bigger picture. Once their own income starts to fall, then they pay attention, but like you said, it's too late.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
District 14 is who he works for, not Texas.

Committee Membership:
House Committee on Financial Services
Subcommittee on Domestic and International Monetary Policy Trade and Technology - Ranking Minority Member
Subcommittee on Oversight and Investigations
House Committee on Foreign Affairs
Subcommittee on International Organizations Human Rights and Oversight
Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere
Joint Economic Committee

Here is something he tried to get passed back in July 2002.
Government Mortgage Schemes Distort the Housing Market

first paragraph

Mr. Speaker, I rise to introduce the Free Housing Market Enhancement Act. This legislation restores a free market in housing by repealing special privileges for housing-related government sponsored enterprises (GSEs). These entities are the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie), the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie), and the National Home Loan Bank Board (HLBB). According to the Congressional Budget Office, the housing-related GSEs received $13.6 billion worth of indirect federal subsidies in fiscal year 2000 alone.

The question I ask of you is this, Why do people like you keep electing shitheads to Congress who think stuff like this is unimportant until it's too late?

There's also another bill that he just pushed forward for the abolishment of the Federal Reserve.
 

Leilani Garden

Well-Known Member
You're expecting an answer to that question in THIS forum? Good luck, Bro. I've asked it many times here and the answers you've received so far are typical. Nothing but non-answers. :blsmoke:

Vi
Okay, I'll take a stab at this, though I feel confident it won't be sufficient.

I voted the way I did because I think Obama is a highly intelligent man (which is in stark contrast to the sitting president) who obviously knows how to MANAGE. If you look at how their campaign was managed, even little things like looking at small precincts in Hillary's acknowledged territories, that shows insight and strategy worthy of The Tao Of War--which is really just a book on how to manage oneself, one's team, or even one's nation.

I also believe he is intelligent enough to appoint extremely competent people in cabinet positions. It's NOT just the president who matters; it's the entire administration. I expect to see some faces in this cabinet who will get to work cleaning up the mess that we're all facing. That means competent folks in the EPA, not cronies who don't even know what they're doing. The administration as a whole is very important to me, and it should be to everyone else.

Although, as I have said several times on that monster McCain thread, I used to have respect for McCain and might have considered voting for him in '04 because he was a MODERATE then, I lost all confidence in him when I realized he was merely towing the party line. So a vote for McCain was definitely out. The Palin issue didn't affect me, because I'd already made up my mind, but it did show a striking lack of managerial qualities.

McCain's age being such an issue didn't really bother me. I know a lot of people harped on and on about that, but it wasn't much of an issue for me. I know and have known a number of people who are very functional until their 90's.

It should be obvious to everyone by now that the republican party is very, very good at "public relations," meaning that they know how to push buttons and get people riled up at the issues they wanted us to be riled up about. They were able to paint Kerry as a complete incompetent last round, they were able to make gay marriage a huge issue--when it's hardly an issue that ought to be front and center, and they were able to make abortion a gigantic issue. They were not able to find all that much dirt on Obama. I know that many of you who were very much opposed to Obama wanted that Rev Wright issue and the Acorn thing and a few others to loom very large, but it didn't work. I think the reasons that the efforts of the RP did not work is because enough people saw those for what they were--the "politics of personal destruction." (And I'd say the same thing about Mrs. McCain as well--her mistakes in the past belong in the past, etc on these personal attacks). The lack of dirt on Obama was a big plus to me. (And no, I don't care what the Rev Wright said--he's earned the right to be highly critical of this country, given his OWN service in the military.)

The fact that this man was raised partly in other cultures around the world, by a woman who was a cultural anthropologist means something to me. I expect to see that pay off in spades with foreign relations, which should be a huge issue right now (as opposed to inane topics like gay marriage and abortion). We live in a "global village," "global economy," etc, now, and this man's background meshes well with that.

I also believe that electing him has shown the world that we are not a bunch of bigoted, racist, greedy people out to destroy and conquer. Our public image has been sullied something terrible under the current administration, and I find that frightening. Forget offensive. Fear for our safety is what I'm talking about. Electing someone who is off the same ole, same ole beaten path says a lot to the rest of the world.

I don't even care that much about all the bickering on that other thread about the so-called entitlement programs. They just do not exist as the republican party would like us all to continue believing. It does bother me that so many, many people are infuriated about a mythological welfare queen, and it speaks volumes about what kind of people we are (uninformed, angry, resentful, etc). I don't know what can be done regarding that issue, because it seems no matter how much you inform people about the changes that occurred in the Clinton administration, they are still angry about some chimera--can't do much about that. They'll believe what they believe.

So those are my primary reasons. I expect highly competent people who've proven themselves to be seated in this cabinet. I expect our foreign relations to greatly improve. I do not, however, expect everything, or even most of these changes in the first month or the first year, even. It's taken us decades to get to where we are, and it's going to take a lot to clean it up.

Oh, I forgot to add this: I expect to see some work done with stem cell research and other technologies. Not only are we going to see a huge number of baby boomers develop these horrid diseases like alzheimers and parkinson's in the coming years, we need to be on top of this with regard to being the ones to conduct the research and reap the economic benefits that come from new technology. We have had tremendous set backs in this regard, and I would love to see us catch up.

And the lobbyists. God awmighty, I want those people's rights to legally bribe our representatives curtailed big time. Obama said they'd have no place in his administration, and I'm going to be hopping mad if I don't see some sort of progress made on this issue.

Edited to add those two last paragraphs.
 
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