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My guess is the foliar sprays. And that plant needs no bloom nutrients yet. Depending on the growth medium, you wouldn't need any fertilizer for a while. Its still a baby. So, unless it's a clone it really won't like bloom fertilizers.
How old is it and is it from seed or clone? And any idea of the strain?
 
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Cannichef_rodri said:
Less than a month old from seed 3 weeks maybe grow medium is just backyard soil with permits no idea on strain from bag seed
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Too young,especially with back yard soil. That will have its own nutritional values and would not need supplement. What, besides perlite, has been added to the soil?
And it looks like it is too warm too. That can exacerbate the issue of spilling on the leaves and excess fertilizer.
What kind of light are you using? And what ever it is, I'm betting it's a little too close.
 
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JimmiP said:
Too young,especially with back yard soil. That will have its own nutritional values and would not need supplement. What, besides perlite, has been added to the soil?
And it looks like it is too warm too. That can exacerbate the issue of spilling on the leaves and excess fertilizer.
What kind of light are you using? And what ever it is, I'm betting it's a little too close.
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So one is a 4-u 65w 6400k and the other is a 300w equivalent led 5000k...water bottle is for size referance.
 

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JimmiP said:
Too young,especially with back yard soil. That will have its own nutritional values and would not need supplement. What, besides perlite, has been added to the soil?
And it looks like it is too warm too. That can exacerbate the issue of spilling on the leaves and excess fertilizer.
What kind of light are you using? And what ever it is, I'm betting it's a little too close.
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Could i cut the leaves that are curling this early?
 

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Just leave them. They will either die off or get better. If they start to die off they will turn yellow too. Dont freak out they aren't infected with something so just let them be. As they yellow the plant is actually drawing nutrition back out of the leaf. It will then fall away and two new leave will be growing from the same place. If they just dried up green the same thing will happen.

Also, that is a lot of flies in there gently check the underside or the leaves for spider mites and other pests. Sometimes they have the same type of effect on young leaves.

Starting in smaller pots with seed is normally a better idea. There is more room for more pots. Which means more chances for females. When you find the males you cull them. And then repot the females to larger pots. Helps them to develop better root systems. It also lessens the chances of stagnant water in the soil. Which limits gas exchange and leads to root rot.
What temp is it in there?
 
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JimmiP said:
Just leave them. They will either die off or get better. If they start to die off they will turn yellow too. Dont freak out they aren't infected with something so just let them be. As they yellow the plant is actually drawing nutrition back out of the leaf. It will then fall away and two new leave will be growing from the same place. If they just dried up green the same thing will happen.

Also, that is a lot of flies in there gently check the underside or the leaves for spider mites and other pests. Sometimes they have the same type of effect on young leaves.

Starting in smaller pots with seed is normally a better idea. There is more room for more pots. Which means more chances for females. When you find the males you cull them. And then repot the females to larger pots. Helps them to develop better root systems. It also lessens the chances of stagnant water in the soil. Which limits gas exchange and leads to root rot.
What temp is it in there?
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Its right at 84°f
 
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Cannichef_rodri said:
Thanks ive stopped using nutes as of now
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Don't stop using nutes just mix them with water in a bucket or tote or something and water them into the soil. Indoors I used a 30 gallon plastic tote with a air pump and stone with the nutes mixed in and let it run a few hours to balance before watering.
 
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JimmiP said:
Just leave them. They will either die off or get better. If they start to die off they will turn yellow too. Dont freak out they aren't infected with something so just let them be. As they yellow the plant is actually drawing nutrition back out of the leaf. It will then fall away and two new leave will be growing from the same place. If they just dried up green the same thing will happen.

Also, that is a lot of flies in there gently check the underside or the leaves for spider mites and other pests. Sometimes they have the same type of effect on young leaves.

Starting in smaller pots with seed is normally a better idea. There is more room for more pots. Which means more chances for females. When you find the males you cull them. And then repot the females to larger pots. Helps them to develop better root systems. It also lessens the chances of stagnant water in the soil. Which limits gas exchange and leads to root rot.
What temp is it in there?
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2 new leaves will not grow lol
 
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sk8disgruntled said:
2 new leaves will not grow lol
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Just asking, are you saying there are not two new growth points at the base of each set of leaves? Or is it that you believe that those points are also doomed? I don't know, but I'm still leaning toward it getting hotter in there than the op thinks sometimes. And I am pretty sure he's going to have bug problems if that plant doesn't already. Flies land on a lot of things and carry other stuff with them. Like spider mites, mold and mildew spores and pollen.
 
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JimmiP said:
Just asking, are you saying there are not two new growth points at the base of each set of leaves? Or is it that you believe that those points are also doomed? I don't know, but I'm still leaning toward it getting hotter in there than the op thinks sometimes. And I am pretty sure he's going to have bug problems if that plant doesn't already. Flies land on a lot of things and carry other stuff with them. Like spider mites, mold and mildew spores and pollen.
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I think you got leaves and tops confused. Do someore research before you go telling people wrong stuff. You cut a fan leaf off, and that's it, no more leaves are growing from that spot. Topping is a different thing all together.
 
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sk8disgruntled said:
I think you got leaves and tops confused. Do someore research before you go telling people wrong stuff. You cut a fan leaf off, and that's it, no more leaves are growing from that spot. Topping is a different thing all together.
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That new branch that is starting to grow at the base of that fan leaf has two leaves on it. And they will continue to grow. And then from the top of there new leaves also will grow. And from those.......
My point was losing a few fan leaves is not a big deal. That plant is young it will lose a lot of them before it's done growing. I just suggested he leave the leaves there for now and not worry about it. The plant will draw nutrients back out of the damaged leaves if it can and lose them on it's own.

What would your advice to Cannichef_rodri be?
 
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