All your buds like rocks!!!

red fury said:

dense bus=standing room only

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hahahahahahaahahaahahahaahahahaahahah! Good catch!

fruitrollup said:

sorry i have to 100% disagree... its often strain dependent as i said before. power k is always big and fluffy b wid is always rock hard dense. grown side by side multiple plants past 2 grows. density has nothing really to do with "experiance". my pk fluffy stuff out weighed the b wid. it is up for opinion, i like nugs soft and delicious. what do people like about hard buds? i dont understand that. what does it do for your smoke other than make you work. I called the b wid "bong dankbud" because the only way to taste it the best and have it burn the best was to put it in a bong... i dont like weed with hangups like that. vote fluffy!

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...true, sativas will be less dense. Your wrong however, density will become greater as you become more experienced.

Wow I guess I been doin it wrong.
I should make my buds less dense.
How do I do it you farking morons?
What am I using too much light?
Maybe I should stop the Co2?
Less nutes?
Maybe keep the lights 4 to 6 ft away from the plants?
I see why your name starts with fruit.

I've never been kicking it, busted out a big fat sack of dense, sick nugget, and some asshole was like "Fuck that shit. Where's the fluffy, lightweight bud at?"

Also, I don't see how you "lose" trichomes in your grinder. Do you grind up bud and the shit just disappears? Once you break in your grinder, nothing sticks to the side. I have a two piece space case. Everything comes out of it. There's no kief catcher. I'm sure you have to do some sort of prep work to get your fluffy nug in a bowl unless you grow little tiny buds that conveniently fit in the pipe. So what's really the difference? You have to break your nug down too.

Not trying to argue here. Just stating what I see.

DuggieStyle said:

Kids, figures. I knew being a asshole would get something. I'm sure the good people on here, but sometimes when your hi you want to fuck with somebody. I live in Mendo, I don't need y'all if i had a real problem. In less then half an hour i got all the responses, Apparently Mr. cheetha, Called his little girl friends to all jump me. As much fun as this is, playing with babies, Hopefully this place is more. Being a nice guy didn't get a response, but an asshole did. thats interesting.So fuck you you cheetha bitch come fuck with one of my dogs you feline bitch, And bring your little girls too.
I grow pot and pits in nor cal....
Not a fucking vagina.
PEACE??????GROW BIG BUDS OFTEN!!!!!!

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If you don't need help, why are you looking for answers? You really are a dumb son of a bitch, so let me help you out as this is apparently to difficult for you to understand. A forum, is just that, a forum, not a fucking chat room. Cheetah didn't have to tell any one to post here, Most of the people that did that originally probably came here to give you an answer, as all they could see is the title of the thread. Then they read your little bitch rant and went off.

so were kids, huh? I'm guessing your about 13, or just really really insecure, I don't blame you, if I was that pathetic I probably would have had to shoot myself, but I digress. If you don't need/want help, why are you here? And exactly how do you grow a vagina? Is that a new word for you, is that why its a novelty. After you fuck a few times it will lose its novelty, but don't worry it never loses its appeal...unless its rotten, nasty and can be smelled from over the internet, like yours. So go get a douche, clean yourself, get high, and try thinking for more than half a second before trying to come up with a snappy come back, I wouldn't want you to hurt yourself...well, I do, but you know what I mean. Oh, wait, you probably don't, your not exactly the poster child for academia, are you? What I meant was I don't want your brain having an aneurysm because it would be a waste of effort, you won't come up with anything worth reading. Please...please tell me I don't have to explain aneurysm to you....

trichlone fiend said:

...true, sativas will be less dense. Your wrong however, density will become greater as you become more experienced.

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how?!
what I mean by that...If I find what works for me, and don't change it for 10 years, I'll be able to say, "I have 10 yrs experience growing..." but if I'm doing the same thing the whole 10 years, nothing will change, the plants are going to feed off of my experience and get more dense. Although on a pothead note, that would be a badass super power....

RavenMochi said:

how?!
what I mean by that...If I find what works for me, and don't change it for 10 years, I'll be able to say, "I have 10 yrs experience growing..." but if I'm doing the same thing the whole 10 years, nothing will change, the plants are going to feed off of my experience and get more dense. Although on a pothead note, that would be a badass super power....

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I see what you're saying, but I tend to disagree. I don't know who is going to grow for 10 years and not change a single thing. That's pretty unambitious. I don't care if I've got the wildest nug on the planet, I'm looking for ways to make it better every harvest.

igothydrotoneverywhere said:

i would agree. thc crystals cant form on the interior of dense buds, great weed comes down to surface area and quality, density is secondary and only important to cash croppers.

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Resin is all over on the interior of dense buds...With each little bit you pull off, there's a layer of crystals going from the stem all the way out. The buds don't just pop out to full size, they grow in layers with resin lining all around and in between.

freddiemoney said:

Resin is all over on the interior of dense buds...With each little bit you pull off, there's a layer of crystals going from the stem all the way out. The buds don't just pop out to full size, they grow in layers with resin lining all around and in between.

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you got a microscope and some pictures with that to prove it? because when i break weed open and look at it with my microscope, i only see glandular tichs on the exterior of the bud, not the interior. maybe you have a better microscope than me? i only grow organics.

Do you really think trichomes are just on the outside? Wow, break open a bud and look at it...no microscope necessary. Trichs are all over the entire bud, not just the outside. The outside just has the highest volume of them.
Regarding the grinder and trichomes...people say it doesn't do anything to affect the overall potency.
Grinding your buds up affects FLAVOR and POTENCY.
Here's why:
In Marijuana's natural state the trichomes (small easy to break off mushroom like pieces of glass all over your buds) are unbroken and if the bud is gently put into a smoking device you will enjoy the full flavor and potency of that bud. If you take the same bud and throw it in your grinder....all those glass like pieces get broken off, and many get stuck to the grinders small plastic or metal prongs that actually break up the buds in the grinder. You can't see them, you just see a little "mash" stuck on the sides of all these prongs...but that's your trichomes on there. That's the shit you wanted to get you high...it's now wasted on the side of a grinder. And when you take your freshly ground up bud and throw it in your smoking bowl....you say you get "all that stuff out of there". Well aside from the fact that you don't...some of it is stuck to the wall and prongs of your grinder, what you do get into your bowl is no longer thousands of unbroken trichomes, they are all now broken. Yes they will still get you high, just as high as before if you didn't grind it up. But you've now made your bowl taste not as good as it could have, and you've reduced potency due to the fact that 5-20% of your crystals are on your grinder....or floated off into the air when you opened the grinder, or tried to transfer it to your bowl.

...this thread is fucking flat out WE TODD DID. I could scrutinize your theory all day long....it's like this...if you can't grow dank, don't blame it on the denseness of the bud. As long as your happy with what you've got, that's all that counts....opinions are opinions.

Also, I don't see how you "lose" trichomes in your grinder. Do you grind up bud and the shit just disappears? You have to break your nug down too.

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wow you must have the cleanest grinder in town. ive never seen one with out a ton of goo in the corners. and no i dont have to break my nug down. maybe pull a piece off the nugget but not when i put it in the bowl. not at all dont have to 1 chunk will do

fruitrollup said:

Also, I don't see how you "lose" trichomes in your grinder. Do you grind up bud and the shit just disappears? You have to break your nug down too.

Not trying to argue here. Just stating what I see.

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wow you must have the cleanest grinder in town. ive never seen one with out a ton of goo in the corners. and no i dont have to break my nug down. maybe pull a piece off the nugget but not when i put it in the bowl. not at all dont have to 1 chunk will do[/QUOTE]

good for you... some people like sativa more, some people like indica more. i like both for different reasons. you, on the other hand, are stubborn and ignorant about the distinction. have you ever smoked hash in your life? is it too "uneven" of a burn for you? psssh, dense nugs are the shit, and equal more kief in your grinder. i love grinding up a super-dense bud, because once it's loosened up, so much more comes out than an airy nug.

if you don't know how to clean your grinder, that's your own fault, stop blaming the weed for your own inadequacies.

oh, and btw trichomes aren't even HALF of what gets you high... there are many cannabinoids which are much more abundant in well-grown, dense nugget with fat glands. the reason those nugs are so hard is because of the dried resins within! how can you hate on that??

what you quoted from me is a quote from somebody else, not what i said. the way its cut and pasted looks like i said it. but again, your talking about weight, which is not the same as density. people need to be smart, its like 10th grade, weight vs. density, 2 different things. and yes hash is too uneven of a burn for me, i would not stuff an entire bowl with a hash chunk. i would love a piece on some weed but we are comparing apples and oranges here. and kief in your grinder is just shit lost from your bowlpack. it isnt anything special anyway when you hit it its weed kid. extra plant material packed tight doesnt mean more resin either. kids im going to make the executive decision on behalf of the fluffy side, weed should burn, oz bags should look fat, bursting out the top of the bag. not being rock dense and looking like 3/4 or a half, then forcing you to grind it so it will burn. fuck that

actually, i quoted you, but since you quoted someone it f'ed it up and put their quote first. i was still talking about what you said, about clogged up grinders and shit. man, i'm tellin you, kief is a concentration of crystals - not just "weed kid", stop patronizing everyone if you are infantile yourself! i'm talking about density here, not weight... seems like you're the only one talkin about weight. and YES more plant material packed tight DOES mean more resin... how the fuck doesn't it? why do you think some nugs are so hard? because they are full of dried, crystallized resin, ya baby.

so your main argument is that you're too lazy to grind and you want your bags to look "fatter"?

i am unwilling to lose on every bowlpack for a hit of keif. i am unimpressed with kief as i am always so hi i cant tell the difference between a keif hit and a regular hit. i would not notice if i smoked keif id be like "same shit". but, meanwhile its good stuff not on my bowlpack. you did confuse density with weight just like some others on this thread when you said your dense nug breaks up to more. only if it weighs more!! and plant material = plant material. plant material does not = resin. if the actual resin is too hard it may still be some good nug, but not the favorite choice when sitting next to a nug that doesnt have that problem. yes i do want the perfect bag to look fat, not look skimp, at the SAME weight

true, if it weighs the same then it's 6 of one, man, a nug is a nug. all i'm sayin is you get more out of a dense nug, than a fluffy one, weight included. if you can't tell the difference between kief, and weed maybe you need to take a lil tolerance break, because kief gets you much higher. as for plant material... denser nugget means more plant material packed into a smaller space... and part of that material IS resin... so with a dense nug, you're getting much more resin for the volume. it's really just personal preference, but i'm trying to get you to see there are reasons why density is a very good thing.

i cant believe you "get more" out of a little dense nug that weighs the same as a big soft one. how does that work? i bet i do need to take a tolerance break! im kind of doing that now, im on my last 2 bowls before harvest! ur logic is a little flawed on plant material. its like saying which is worth more a ten$ in each pocket or a twenty in one pocket? just because you stuffed both of the bills in a small space, they arent worth more! resin doesnt exponentally increase per volume because its packed tighter. my dense bwids put out cannonballs my fluffy pks put out arm length nugs almost dripping with resin. as i see so far, density cannot be favored if side by side to an otherwise equally dank nug...

ehh, sketchy analogies goin down. it's more like a balled up newspaper-- if you ball up a sheet lightly, you can only fit 4 or 5 sheets in a shoebox. but if you wad it up real tight, you could fit 20 or 30. if the newspaper is plant material, that means there is more plant material/cubic inch with a dense cola, and therefore more concentrated resin... basically the difference btween the two is concentration. with a dense nug, you get more weight and more concentrated resin. with a fluffy bud, you get more surface area for trichomes and an ease of smoking. honestly a lot has to do with the smoking style you prefer, too. joints and blunts work best with fluffy buds, because they burn more evenly and quickly. dense nugs are good for slow roasting bowls which can kick your ass before they're even done.