Aliens

flamable221

Active Member
How far above your head was the object? Where did it come from? Did you get a look at the shape of the object? Do you live in the US or elsewhere?

I have numerous reports of electronics failing when a UFO is present, but never all sound going mute.

I am from Seacoast New Hampshire, it was at night, so I only saw a couple of lights, one red, and one white, about 1/3-1/2 mile above me, it was going pretty fast, over the speed of sound, then as it went into the distance it made a sharp upwards left, then sudden right and vanished.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
For aliens to visit earth, here I start getting a little patchy and when I saw your post saying they farmed us for slaves, I thought it a very bold statement and wondered what led you to say this. I have been reading the noah's arc stuff and it spirals into many sites.

I asked why you stated they farmed us and you answered for slaves but why? How do we know it was for slaves? What type of work were we used for ? and why did we cease to be useful after the great flood?

Can you sum it up for me so I can go and research some more about your hypotheses. I will continue to read the Noah's Ark stuff its interesting :)

All the best
Theory 1:

Here are a few links:

Nibiru - Crystalinks

SlowMotionDoomsday.Com - Planet X Nibiru

As you will see in the links the inhabitants of Nibiru came here to mine gold. They created us to do the work for them. After a while there were a few who started using using us for other tasks such as bulding the Pyramids. I'm not sure if you know much about the Jewish faith, but the Hebrews were "gods chosen people".

Theory 2:
They created us as an experiment so to speak, to eventually use us in their attempts to heal their own kind. The links I posted earlier on the coast to coast am radio broadcasts covers this.

Theory 3:
The greys did not create us but we are in fact descendants of another alien race known as the Pleadians. The links I posted to the Alex Colliers interview covers this in great detail.

I am more prone to believe theory 1 or 2. If you watch the Alex Colliers interview you will see that it is quite a tale, even for people like me who are die hard UFO/alien buffs.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Check out the first season of Stargate SG-1. The series got to be much more traditionally "sci-fi" as it developed and reached for new storylines. But the first few episodes of the first season especially are almost credible. They prided themselves on scientific and military accuracy early on. If you watch nothing else, rent the first DVD and watch the Pilot, called "Children of the Gods". It's good stuff.

~Ethno
I will have to check them out. I always wondered if Hollywood just dreamed up stories like this or if they have inside info, but air it as "Sci-Fi" to make the people see it as just that......science fiction.:peace:
 
Theory 1:

Here are a few links:

Nibiru - Crystalinks

SlowMotionDoomsday.Com - Planet X Nibiru

As you will see in the links the inhabitants of Nibiru came here to mine gold. They created us to do the work for them. After a while there were a few who started using using us for other tasks such as bulding the Pyramids. I'm not sure if you know much about the Jewish faith, but the Hebrews were "gods chosen people".

Theory 2:
They created us as an experiment so to speak, to eventually use us in their attempts to heal their own kind. The links I posted earlier on the coast to coast am radio broadcasts covers this.

Theory 3:
The greys did not create us but we are in fact descendants of another alien race known as the Pleadians. The links I posted to the Alex Colliers interview covers this in great detail.

I am more prone to believe theory 1 or 2. If you watch the Alex Colliers interview you will see that it is quite a tale, even for people like me who are die hard UFO/alien buffs.
I am reading reading reading thank you for answering my questions, will read more tomorrow this is just to acknowledge you taking your time to inform me :)

All the best
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
I am reading reading reading thank you for answering my questions, will read more tomorrow this is just to acknowledge you taking your time to inform me :)

All the best
No problem man....I figured that's what you were doing...LOL. I have lost myself on the internet reading about this stuff for DAYS!!!!!!
 
Hi Ernie

I have another quick question if you have the time.

Why is it that most of the stuff regarding aliens (or many other strange phenomena) seems to be in the USA?

You have Area 51 whcih I don't really know what is going on there other than its highly classified. The Bermuda Triangle was popular when I was a kid does weird stuff still happen there? There just seems to be more sightings happen in the US than anywhere else in the world (no proof just observation).

Why is the US so special for this type of event? Maybe because you have the most advanced technology perhaps or maybe you just have more unused habitable space than anyone else.

Just an observation / question.

One more thing, remember Zeitgeist and the "Ages" and the prophets and how they tied that into Pagan beliefs. If you really take the start of the last two ages as being the birth of Moses and the birth of Christ, would you imagine this could be tied into alien visits in anyway? Perhaps the prophets did exist in some form and were here to correct a wayward society.

Maybe you don't relate paganism (to me this is a form of religion based on the study of stars the earth and ours skies ie. nature, sorry to offend anyone who knows exactly what it is) to alien visits.

I am tired and my mind is wondering and I have had a lot of wine but I love to try and be open minded and explore what people have to say.

All the best

Edit ok that was not 1 quick question :)
 

flamable221

Active Member
There was a show on the History Channel about UFOs in the bible. It's rather fascinating to think aliens could in some part be part of the bible, but you can't rule out other space objects, (comets/asteroids/meteors) other things that people did not know about that appeared in the sky.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Hi Ernie

I have another quick question if you have the time.

Why is it that most of the stuff regarding aliens (or many other strange phenomena) seems to be in the USA?

You have Area 51 whcih I don't really know what is going on there other than its highly classified. The Bermuda Triangle was popular when I was a kid does weird stuff still happen there? There just seems to be more sightings happen in the US than anywhere else in the world (no proof just observation).

Why is the US so special for this type of event? Maybe because you have the most advanced technology perhaps or maybe you just have more unused habitable space than anyone else.

Just an observation / question.

One more thing, remember Zeitgeist and the "Ages" and the prophets and how they tied that into Pagan beliefs. If you really take the start of the last two ages as being the birth of Moses and the birth of Christ, would you imagine this could be tied into alien visits in anyway? Perhaps the prophets did exist in some form and were here to correct a wayward society.

Maybe you don't relate paganism (to me this is a form of religion based on the study of stars the earth and ours skies ie. nature, sorry to offend anyone who knows exactly what it is) to alien visits.

I am tired and my mind is wondering and I have had a lot of wine but I love to try and be open minded and explore what people have to say.

All the best

Edit ok that was not 1 quick question :)
Actually when it comes to sightings and ancient alien encounters, that is worldwide:

OpenDNS

Mexico City UFO Footage

UFO Sightings Worldwide (December 2002)

Ufos in Shanghai China alien space ships Europe UFOs British UFOs in Asia Chian ufos news

Chinese and Hindu UFO's Alien Visitation History

It is also widely believed in the UFO community that after the Roswell crash in New Mexico in 1947 (or some years after) that the US government made a deal with the Greys; they give us technology and we let them abduct people. Once again, the Alex Colliers interview covers this in gret detail. Here is something else I found on that subject as well:

U.S. Government made a deal with the EBE's (grey aliens)

I do believe that the "prophets" were just people who had alien encounters. It was said that Mohammed "ascended into the heavens" from the temple mount via a great white light. The Muslims call this the "miraj". Moses talked to a "burning bush" at the top of Mount Sanai, then descended with "The 10 Commandments"...the supreme law of the land. IMO all these things were our alien creators trying to keep us in check, and dumb to the true reality of things.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Here are some historical alien visitation accounts:

In 1938, archeologist Chi Pu Tei discovered a strange alignment of graves in the Baian Kara Ula Mountains, near the Sino-Tibetan border. Also found were cave drawings illustrating beings wearing helmets, the stars, sun and moon. There were also reports of the discovery of small, frail skeletons with unusually large skulls. In 1962, a strange record-like disk found among the graves was translated by professor Tsum Um Nui. The translation tells an eerie tale of how a group of beings crash landed on the third planet in this star system approximately twelve thousand years ago. Repairs to their craft were appearently unsuccessful and so attempts were made to befriend the local mountain tribes. But instead, (out of fear) the beings were hunted down and killed for their nonhuman appearance.


The relevance of this story is the time in which the event was recorded. It was long before the influence of the government, tv and the media could corrupt information. They wrote simply what occured at the sight, for they had no knowledge we would find it centuries later. What reason would there be for the recording of an event that never happened, in a time when long distance communication would have been completely unheard of, let alone understood? The events described on the disk were more then likely recorded as best they understood of the circumstances. Here you will find a more detailed account of the event: Dropas Crash: 12,000 BC

Has man been visited in the past by alien beings from other worlds or dimensions? A skeptic at first, but as the indications mount up, it becomes harder for me to ignore all the implications that support this question. Hello, my name is Chris and I feel it necessary to pose certain questions and facts in the hopes of stimulating a desire for people to take it upon themselves to investigate the greatest mystery of all time. The Alien/Human Connection, if there indeed is one, could be profound in my opinion.

From remote viewing data and alien abduction claims, to ancient scriptures and tablets, an image of the "true nature" of the human being emerges. According to some remote viewers who claim to have made contact with alien entities, state that these entities believe us,(and all sentient beings) to be more then just physical beings that age and then die. Some even claim to have been told directly, that we go through many physical bodies in the course of evolution and the creation of life. This idea, strangely enough, seems to be reflected in many of our ancient cultures and is still present today.

It is important to note three ancient Hindu text scriptures, the Bhagavata-Purana, Mahabharata and Ramayana Scriptures. These scriptures date back to at least 3000 B.C. and are among some of the oldest writings currently known to man. They speak extensively about flying machines called Vimanas that flew not only the skies, but to the stars as well. India's Vedic writings speak of gods, (they called Devas) from other star systems. They tell of how the human soul is nonphysical and how our sentient energy goes through a succession of physical bodies, as only the physical body dies.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
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The Mayans believed their predecessors came from the Pleiades. The Mayan Indians of Central America knew the earth was round centuries before the Europeans made this discovery. The Popol Vuh states that several gods, including Hunahpu, Xbalanque, and the great god-king Quetzalcoatl, returned to the stars after their earth life ended.

In India, it was and still is believed that man descended from gods who flew fiery crafts. Early Chinese texts tell of long-lived rulers from the heavens who flew in "fire-breathing dragons". In Tibet there is a book called the Kantyua, which means "the translated word of Buddha". It tells of flying "pearls in the sky" and of transparent spheres carrying gods to visit man. Here to, the belief is of being reborn time and time again and not just to earth. The Royal Pedigrees of Tibetan Kings dates back to the seventh century. It states that the first seven Tibetan kings came from the stars, and goes on to say that they eventually returned to the stars.

Ancient Egyptian legends tell of Tep Zepi, or the First Time. This is described as an age when "sky gods" came down to Earth and raised the land from mud and water.They supposedly flew through the air in flying "boats" and brought laws and wisdom to man through a royal line of pharaohs.

Interpretations of Babylonian and Sumerian writings speak of how man's early history was greatly influenced by visitors from the twelth planet in our solar system. Ancient Sumerians called this planet Nibiru, while the Babylonians refer to it as Marduk. This implies to some that our solar system may contain a tenth planet, since the Sumerians counted the sun and moon also as heavenly bodies. In 1983, the Washington Post News Service reported, "A heavenly body, possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to earth that it might be part of this solar system, has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope called the Infrared Astronomical Observatory".

Zecharia Sitchen is one of less than 200 persons able to read the Sumerian language. He is the author of The Earth Chronicles and is responsible for much of the information available today regarding ancient Summerian text and Nibiru, also referred to as Planet X. His theories, derived from these ancient translations, state that this tenth planet came into our solar system about four billion years ago, demolishing another planet, which created the asteroid belt beyond Mars. Sitchen goes on to tell a tale of alien civil war and of colonization efforts on earth to include the creation of modern man. So it goes, a ruler named Alalu was overthrown and fled from Nibiru during a time when the planet was losing it's atmosphere and was dying. Gold found on earth was believed to be able to be used to stabilize the tenth planet. Hardships of the mining operations caused a revolt among the aliens and so they created "modern man", through the genetic manipulation of early humans, to provide labor. At some point, although with great disapproval, some aliens interbred with humans. Sitchen also states that the offspring of these human/alien affairs, are the Nephilim mentioned in Genesis 6:4 (some bible translators have concluded that the word Nephilim "designates ancient heroes who are the product of sexual union of heavenly beings and human women"). Then, around thirteen thousand years ago, the aliens realized that the return of their home world would cause widespread floods and tidal waves on earth. It was then decided to keep this from the humans and allow them to face the coming cataclysm. One alien broke the agreement and warned the human Noah of the impending disaster to come.



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Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
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Native Americans tell a story of remarkable similarities, about the history of man. This story has its start on August 13, 1947, not long after the famous Roswell crash. Six Native Americans supposedly, came upon a smoldering metallic object in the New Mexico desert. Inside was an injured but very much alive alien being. For fear of the military's capture of the being, they decided to take the being home to care for it. To their amazement, the being was able to communicate images through the use of a small crystal device. Robert Morning Sky, grandson of one of the rescuers, tells the message of the being known to them as the "Star Elder". He claims that the beings name was Bak'Ti and that he has pieced together parts of man's early history from the teachings of the Star Elder. He states that the "Star People" have always been here, since the earth was a barren rock. It was indicated that there had been much involvement with the human species, some benevolent, some not, throughout our evolution. According to Morning Sky's Terra Papers, humans were created through DNA manipulation, to be used as workers for alien mining operations on earth. At one point, an alien leader and brother competed for control of earth and so the leader mixed some of his own DNA into the gene pool, making the humans his children, so to speak. Other DNA was introduced from a bird-like race of high emotions and soulfulness. Over time, two very different humans emerged. One, a docile, easily controlled human, and an emotional and intelligent human, soon to develop independent will. At one point, a fraction of aliens tried to destroy the willful humans by casting them into the wilderness to die and later to face the "Great Floods". However, the creator/leader managed to save a group of humans. Later, an alien leader named Ra, (perhaps the ancient sun god of the Egyptians) sought to eliminate all evidence of man's true history, in an effort to keep the humans ignorant and controllable. But, it is said that Ra lost to an alien race descended from reptiles, which might be known today as the "Greys" or perhaps the reptilians you sometimes hear about.

Dr. Javier Cabrera Darquea, a respected medical doctor of Ica, Peru, has a private museum that includes over 15,000 engraved stones. These "picture rocks" or petroglyphs, were discovered when an earthquake caused a landslide on land owned by his father in Sallas. They range in size from very small to giant boulders. It is believed that they originate from lava flows dating back to the Mesozoic Period, perhaps some 230 million years ago. The images seem to show a human species living amongst the dinosaurs. There are pictures of five-fingered humanoids fighting off giant reptiles with what look like battleaxes. The stones show many different and wonderous things, even what appears to be open-heart surgery. Some depict genetic engineers trying to create Homo Sapiens, first using amphibious life, then reptilian, and eventually early mammals. Some stones show the creation of humanoids without opposing thumbs, which may indicate that they predate the apes, as even the earliest apes had opposing thumbs. There is also what appears to be a second breed created with less intelligence then the protohumans, but these humans had opposing thumbs. It is thought that they were created as "worker bees" to perform labor tasks. The doctor theorizes from the images, that at some point great catastrophies destroyed large numbers of the intellectual humanoids and they made preparations to leave Earth, leaving mostly the lower intellectuals, those with opposing thumbs, behind.

Strangly enough, it's a little-known fact that several archaeological digs have produced skeletons of ancient men and women over 7 feet tall. There has also been excavations of unknown humanoid cultures that indicate a stature smaller than any known pigmy tribes. Some digs have uncovered giants with two rows of teeth. Some have also been found with sharply slanted foreheads and fangs, and one particular burial mound revealed remains of a humanoid with horns protruding out of the skull. This immediately causes ones mind to conjure up images of devils and demons. Ernesto Abbate, an Italian paleontologist, believes that perhaps as many as 20 different species of humans have existed over the last 5 million years. There are skulls in a museum in Cusco, Peru, that have yet to be explained. One is a cone-head shaped skull. Another is a huge, round skull with enormous eye sockets. Then there is a skull that appears to have a double hemisphere, with the capacity for a double sized brain. In 1997 a research team concluded that the mitochondrail DNA of a Neanderthal was so distinctly different from our own, that it is highly unlikely that humans evolved from them through evolution alone. Fossilized footprints have been discovered in places like southwest America that date back 250 million years ago. A possibly 400 million year old shoe print was discovered in Pershing County, Nevada. The fossil even clearly showed what looked like fine double-stitching in the seams. Some have speculated about the possibility of time-travel as an answer to some of these mysteries, but in light of our current dimensional limitations on time and space, it is hard for us to imagine how this would be accomplished.

It is said by some that about 6000 years ago, the Sumerians of Ancient Mesopotamia went from a primitive tribespeople barely living in very crude huts, to an advanced culture with homes, temples, towers, etc...virtually overnight. This is said to be in response to the arrival of the Apkallu who descended in a star. The leader was called Oannes, the "beast with reason". He was said to have resembled a fish-like humanoid and is credited for bringing civilization to the Sumerians and Babylonians. And what about the mysterious Mullion people? I ran across a reference to them in a recent book I read by Art Bell and Brad Steiger, entitled The Source-Journey through the unexplained. In it, there is mention of a culture that appeared very suddenly and only briefly, some 10,000 years ago, along the Algerian coast. According to the book, they consisted of mostly women and children who worked with tool types and domesticated animals, never before seen. Another unusual aspect of these people is that they possess the largest cranial capacity of any known culture. Ours presently averages about 1,400 cc, while theirs was approximately 2,000 cc. Their heads must have looked a little oversized when compaired to our own but one must wonder, at the same time, could this have reflected their intellectual capacity or level of developement?

These are just small examples of some of the countless mysteries surrounding man's early history. Who can say if the cultures still around today, are based on legends and tales of complete and utter nonsense, although it is highly unlikely that there isn't at least some basis of fact underlying some of the events described. Did the idea of reincarnation originate from an alien source or is it merely a coincidence that so many cultures at one time or another believed in it? Can we arrogantly dismiss all such ancient tales of alien visitation, as tales perceived through the eyes of a primative man and merely misunderstood events? You will have to decide for yourself for it would be nearly impossible to prove or disprove an event of so long ago with little to no evidence still around today.

It has been said that, "We are not merely human beings having a spiritual experience, but rather spiritual beings having a human experience".


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Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
More reading material:

Is there evidence to support the claims of UFO and alien visitation? Many people claim that there is. Several valid points can be made on both sides of the argument. While some look to the stars for answers, others are looking right in our own backyard, here on Earth. Are crop circles, cattle mutilations, strange lights in the sky, claims of nightly visitation, unexplainable missing pregnancies and implants, all a piece of the big puzzle? Or are we just kidding ourselves with myths, legends and misconceptions, to better enhance the mystery and isolation of life on Earth? Who can say for sure? All we can do at this point is to take it upon ourselves to research and investigate whatever clues are available to us. By looking into the many mysteries surrounding ancient history and folklore, we may find some of the answers we are searching for.


Is man responsible for such great monuments as the Pyramids of Egypt, Stonehendge, the ancient Peruvian city of Sacsahuaman and the giant stone statues of Easter Island? If so, then this may indicate that great amounts of knowledge have been lost at some point, for it would be very difficult (if not impossible) to replicate such monuments today. Did Atlantis really exist or is it just a legend to spark the imagination? In 1941 Edgar Cayce, while in a trance-like state, prophecized that a Hall of Records would be discovered under the Sphinx in Egypt, around the end of the 20th century. Edgar also stated that the contents of these records will prove the existence of Atlantis. Time will tell if this prediction comes to light. Cayce, known as the Sleeping Prophet, made a living curing uncurable illnesses. He believed in reincarnation and also believed that his abilities stemmed from being able to channel the knowledge of his past lives, while in an altered state of consciousness. He also claimed that one of his past lives was as an Atlantean. Cayce predicted that the western edge of Atlantis would begin to reappear near Bimini in the Bahamas, in 1968 or 1969. Twenty-three years after his death, in 1968, divers discovered the ruins of prehistoric walls and roads off the coast of Bimini. A two-hundred foot long stretch of interlocking rock is believed to be a stone road or the top of a great submerged rampart. Large barrel-shaped objects were also found that could be the remains of giant stone pillars. Skeptical geologists discount this discovery as Beach Rock, and claim the breaks in the rock are natural. Besides prescribing (sometimes strange but successful) remedies for countless individuals, Edgar Cayce is known for predicting the exact date for the end of World War II and the assassination of John F. Kennedy. Cayce died in 1945. Some people, such as Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval, claim that a chamber of nine rooms has already been discovered under the Sphinx, but that the Egyptian government continues to keep this a secret. Some speculate that this isn't persued more because of fear of possible revelations that might contradict current belief systems, or as some put it, what we are told to believe by those who control the information.

If it is someday discovered that Atlantis, a technologically advanced civilization, did indeed exist, then just what happened to them? Where did their knowledge come from? Did survivors spread out to neighboring continents? In the 1500's, when the Conquistadors landed at the Canarie Islands, they discovered a misplaced tribe of people called the Guanches. The people communicated that they were amazed that others had survived the great disaster that sank their homeland. The natives also displayed stone tablets in a language they could no longer read. They hoped that the spanish explorers could decipher the text but the Conquistadors were conquerors and not interested in such things. It is believed that the people were massacred. Has man been plagued by catastrophies which have wiped out civilization to the point that it was set back to square one? There are over 60 legends or tales of The Great Flood, from different cultures around the world. If these tales have any truth at all, then the amount of knowledge and science that has been lost, could be incredible. The true age of man is still a great controversy.
Now if this isn't the case, then were visitors from other dimensions, planets, or other times, responsible for the magnificent monuments that currently remain a mystery? No one can argue that it must have taken great effort and a certain amount of knowledge and technology, to create many of the wonders of the world. Over the last few decades, many new theories have raised their ugly heads, concerning man's age, evolution, and history. The following is a list of just a small sample of some of the different scenarios that have been considered. I believe that a combination of such scenarios may be a possibility, as certain aspects of each seem logical, if not probable.
 

Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
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1. Of course, there is the mainstream belief, that life on Earth started from single-celled organisms - to complex organisms, from the waters - to eventually develop the ability to survive on land...and, oh yeah, we evolved from primates. This is a sort of natural evolution where no intervention from outside influences, such as alien visitors, has taken place. We have evolved naturally, and have reached our present state, all by ourselves.

2. The second is that we didn't evolve from "monkeys", but that man and ape share a common ancestor. Many believe that if you go back far enough, you will find that we originate from the same animal, but at some point something occured that changed us, and separated us from the other primates. This caused us to evolve in a different direction, maybe even accellerated our evolution. What this something was is unknown, but it may have occured at more then one point in our history. This could be from interactions and knowledge obtained from contact with visitors from other worlds or dimensions. On the evolutionary scale, man has made major technological jumps, virtually overnight. Alien intervention is the idea behind this scenario, but it is unclear whether the advancements and knowledge obtained have always been in our best interest.

3. This third idea names us as the true aliens, to Earth anyway. This theory considers the possibility that thousands, upon thousands of years ago, Mars was inhabited by intelligent life. At some point something happened which virtually destroyed the atmosphere, whether from pollution, nuclear holocaust, asteroid impacts, etc... The inhabitants are forced to seek refuge on the nearest inhabitable planet...Earth. In this idea, we are the descendants of these migrators from Mars. This could account for the pyramids and the giant face on Mars.

4. This scenario paints a somewhat darker image. An alien race or people from another world, came to Earth long before man as we know it, emerged. Workers or possibly even slaves are needed for the building of structures, mining, ect... So the aliens genetically alter or mix their own genes with the genes of the most intelligent species currently on Earth...early man. Now there is a new man, a smarter man. Over time, this new man grows, learns, and develops free will. Man is eventually left to fend for himself but is told that his creator, god or master will return for him one day. This origin points more towards the genetic engineering by aliens as the reason for our current condition, but are we the beloved children or an expendable resource?

5. Aliens come to Earth as a barren, lifeless planet and plant the seed of life, so to speak. These creators have been here all along manipulating and guiding our path and/or evolution, for study or perhaps some other purpose. This scenario views Earth as not much more than a science project, while purposely keeping us in the dark as to the alien intervention and our true origins.


There are many more ideas floating around out there, one of my personal favorites is the one about the Virgin Mary. This idea is that Mary was indeed a virgin and that it was not by some miracle that she became pregnant, but by artificial insemination. It suggests that Mary was abducted and impregnated, much like many abduction tales of today. No doubt, this would seem outrageous to most people of a highly religious background, but as we have explored, events are often relayed to others from the perspective or mind-set of the one who originally observed the event in question. This fact has led many to second guess certain accounts of events in ancient history, as there is a possibility of inaccurate detail or documentation due to common misconceptions of a given era. We may laugh at some of the things our ancestors and others who have come before us, believed in but what might those of a hundred years from now laugh about concerning some of our current beliefs (not just alien related and religious beliefs, but anything from what we view as scientific facts and theories)? Some would argue that there is more left to discover and (truely) learn about, then has already been learned by man. Consider the events associated with Moses of the Israelites(Hebrews). The burning bush that Moses came upon, after he left Egypt, is described as being engulfed in a bright glow or flame, but the bush itself did not appear to be burning. Then, Moses hears a voice coming from the bush, which he assumes is the voice of God. On another occasion, he hears the voice of God again, which tells him that he must return to Egypt with his brother Aaron, and tell Pharaoh to let his people go, or be punished by God. As the story goes, Pharaoh refuses and the Ten Plagues are sent to punish the Egyptians who enslaved the Israelites. Eventually, they are freed and led through the desert by a pillar of cloud in the sky, by day and a bright column of fire in the sky, by night. Then, there is the miracle of the parting of the Red Sea, which saves Moses and his people, but drowns the pursuing Pharaoh and his men. What an all-loving God this must be, the Hebrews must have thought...not likely. Then, we get to the events at Mount Sinai. Moses and his people are told to pray to God for three days. They did so and on the third day the people saw a thick, black cloud and heard the sound of trumpets coming from atop the mountain, as if the mountain was on fire. Moses again hears the voice of God, and is given the Ten Commandments. When Moses returns from the mountain top, his people plead with him to speak with God alone from now on, for they were much too frightened of him.
The Ten Commandments:
1. Thou shalt have no other God but me.
2. Thou shalt not make any image of God.
3. Thou shalt not take the name of God in vain.
4. Remember the sabbath day to keep it holy.
5. Honor thy father and thy mother.
6. Thou shalt not kill.
7. Thou shalt not commit adultery.
8. Thou shalt not steal.
9. Thou shalt not lie.(bear false witness)
10. Thou shalt not covet.(want other peoples things)
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Erniedytn

Master of Mayhem
Part 3:

While not appearing to be in order of importance, it is argued that one through four seem almost out of place. Five through ten appear to be very good rules to live by, although seen as common sense for most of us. Number one blows our Freedom of Religion Act out of the water, although there are many more religions then that of the One God that are far older. With the exception of Christianity, most don't believe or at least don't claim to be the only one true way. The fact that 1 through 4 seem to mainly deal with and benefit the source or god referred to in them, has caused a new possibility to arise among some ufo believers. This idea is that perhaps some of our religions, ancient myths, legends, and even such things as the Ten Commandments, etc...may have an alien origin. Some believe that religion may have been given to man in a time when we were young an ignorant, and needed guidance. Some will even argue that the source for this guidance may have been a higher evolved intelligence such as alien visitors. One must ask themself, what is the purpose of 1 through 3 if they are indeed coming from an all knowing, all loving god, creator of all things? Is there no room for human error? Can any of these acts not be forgiven? 1 through 3 seem to be attempts in making sure that you stay faithful to only one god or being, and to do otherwise would be a horrendous act against the faith. This mind-set seems to pertain primarily to a material God, giving almost human qualities to it, not the growing belief that God is more of an energy or lifeforce that emanates throughout all things and connects us on some level we don't yet understand. I don't like even mentioning the term God in the light of such strong belief systems of the many different cultures of the world, but many are leaning towards the belief that all things together as one, make up God, all things we know and have yet to know. In this respect, the phrase We are all Gods children may indeed be true. The view that would hold God as a seperate being, much higher evolved than man, here for our sole benefit, watching over Earth, to be worshipped or foresaken (sometimes even punished) by, seems to be a slowly fading one.


Looking back now, it's hard to believe that there was a time when we would punish, torture, exile, and even kill those that went against a certain faith or just chose to live or believe in their own way, all in the name of God, but imposed by man. How is one to know which religion to choose when there are so many to choose from? Or perhaps it really doesn't matter which you choose, it's more in the way you choose to live and the decisions you make. Some argue, what is the purpose of their creation if they were created only to serve or worship a god? Some have even argued that if there is only one true "way", then that "way" should make itself more evident. I personally, don't hold myself to any one religion. The die-hard believer might argue that Moses talking to God sounds a lot like telepathic communications from an alien source, and all the other events associated with him such as the burning bush, parting of the Red Sea, objects in the sky, and other miracles, were just misinterpreted encounters and the intervention of alien visitors. Countless other tales from ancient times have been subjected to the same new age, somewhat radical theories. Imagine if you could go back in time and interact with what most would refer to as a caveman. How would you be described if this person had the ability to document the encounter? Simple things to us, such as fire or perhaps even a radio might seems like miracles. You might even be viewed as a god yourself. How did the concept of Gods realm or Heaven being up, the sky, stars or space, originate? Did man have advanced visitors long, long ago that came down from the sky (the heavens) in fiery crafts and were thereafter viewed as gods? Since science and religion went their separate ways ages ago, events have often been relayed to others differently, depending on the point of view and beliefs of the one telling the event. There are locations around the world that people go to regularly to catch a glimpse of God, the Mother Mary, etc...While some see images of Mary, others see UFO's. Maybe it depends on what you believe you will see that influences the visual people get at such events, if there is truely something to see in the first place. A true skeptic might brush it off as mass hallucinations by people wanting to see something incredible.

Will we ever know the truth about our evolution and what has gotten us to where we are today? We can only hope, but my own opinion currently lies somewhere with the combination of the above scenarios. We believe it is possible that multiple events and interactions with other beings, has led to our current state. Many are now considering that maybe what we have been lead to believe about where we came from, how we should live, religion, the meaning of life, etc... are full of misconceptions and false information. Does the government know something so shocking (concerning aliens and their connection with us) that they have been forced to keep it from us? At times, they themselves give this impression. Each of us will eventually draw our own conclusions as to what we think is true. We can only draw on our individual experiences and knowledge to base a decision, so try not to be so surprised when others talk of other possible realities that we may be unaware of, at present.

One can only blame movies, partially, for the fear, nonsense, and ridicule that comes from such a controversial subject. The fact that aliens aren't reported to look like strange, destructive, unintelligent monsters, robots, etc... that want to destroy or take over the planet (like in the old movies), is a large step away from the War of the Worlds scenario, for if destruction or slavery was the agenda, one would think such actions would have been imposed by now. A main aspect of the abduction phenomenon, is that the focus tends to be on the destruction we are causing to the Earth. Abductees often come out of such an experience, being more concerned about the way we live and interact with our environment. Many also show signs of heightened psychic abilities, while showing no indication of a mental disorder of any kind. Even though the experience of many abductees is viewed as a negative experience, the end result seems to be positive. Many abductees who have moved beyond the traumatic experience, tend to have a deeper need to understand the meaning of life and true purpose, and feel compelled to search for answers and teach others in a positive manner. Some, even believe that they have a mission to help open our minds to a larger existence or reality and prepare others for eventual contact. These individuals, often believe it is their job to insert the seed, idea, or thought that will get us moving in the right direction, along a more peaceful and spiritual path.
In fact, a large majority of alien descriptions given by contactees, abductees, remote viewers, etc...tend to be humanoid in appearance. Unfortunately, this doesn't do much for either side of the subject. Skeptics will argue that aliens from other worlds wouldn't look like us, while some believers argue that we might be space brothers or descendents of these beings. They argue that if man was created in the image of his creator or god, then perhaps our god is no more than an alien race or higher evolved intelligence that started us out or influenced us along the way, and periodically pops in from time to time to check our status and/or influence events.
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skunkushybrid

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If they want to pay a visit, I'd be the first guy to say "Hi...", like you said, if they been coming here this long then they obviously mean us no harm.
 
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