Alfalfa meals plant hormones

DonBrennon

DonBrennon

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GoRealUhGro said:
Idk..they might still be made by the same ppl but ur prob right ..how much of the pellets do you add to your soil mix per cf?...I planned on using the meal for that buy I guess it doesn't matter
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I don't actually add it too my soil mixes anymore, if you do, go real light with it, it can be real hot, can cause nitrogen overload(too many really dark green leaves growing even well into flower), and if you've got too much triacontanol in your soil, you get deformed plants.
I'm no expert, but I feel it's better used as a light topdress or sparingly in teas during growth.
 
GoRealUhGro

GoRealUhGro

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Ok .I'm about to make a tea right now...I was going to use ewc...aphrodites extraction. .. (cause I don't have molasses atm)...fulvic acid..and I was gonna try to throw in some pelletts..I'm making a small amount of tea for my small plants...how much pelletts would you add to the mix ..it's a 3 gal bucket and I'll only be feeding 15 small plants...and is it better to add one of the ingredients at a different time of the brew than another?
 
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BigDoobie

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greasemonkeymann said:
you sure it's leaf tip burn from too much nitrogen?
it's not common, that's why I ask...
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Not exactly sure but its worse on the tops thats closest to the light. The others have just the very tips burned, like the tips of a pencil. It might be from too much light and I jumped to the conclusion its the alfalfa because I fed a few heavy alfalfa/kelp teas in flower also top dressed them in veg. Plants are dark green also. I dont have heat problems and they are fox tailing but are big.
 
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BigDoobie

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MistaRasta said:
If you really want a tria boost sprout some organic alfalfa seed and make an sst out of it.

If you do use this method I suggest very low dosages
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Do you know if theres a some kind of alfalfa malt or sprouted alfalfa seeds? Been looking and dont see anything.
 
MistaRasta

MistaRasta

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BigDoobie said:
Do you know if theres a some kind of alfalfa malt or sprouted alfalfa seeds? Been looking and dont see anything.
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Sadly, there is no source of sprouted alfalfa I could find. You'll have to buy the seed and sprout it your self.

I'd take 2 TBSP of seed(for every 5 gal of water) and sprout it until you have a 1/4inch tail. Then grind that up and bubble it for 4 hours, add fulvic acid and apply.

Not as convenient as malted but definitely works.
 
GoRealUhGro

GoRealUhGro

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MistaRasta said:
Sadly, there is no source of sprouted alfalfa I could find. You'll have to buy the seed and sprout it your self.

I'd take 2 TBSP of seed(for every 5 gal of water) and sprout it until you have a 1/4inch tail. Then grind that up and bubble it for 4 hours, add fulvic acid and apply.

Not as convenient as malted but definitely works.
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really? Is That all u would add to 5 gal of water?
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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Sorry about the bump.

If using alfalfa meal in soil would the consensus be to grind first and then add to mix? How much per 4 gallon pot?
In veg only or OK in flower?
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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Lucky Luke said:
Sorry about the bump.

If using alfalfa meal in soil would the consensus be to grind first and then add to mix? How much per 4 gallon pot?
In veg only or OK in flower?
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Hey Luke,

I would say if going with a ground meal, no need to flour it, if putting clean horse pellets in your soil, then yes, do grind them up first.

I personally use much less than I used to, and even am starting to prefer to omit it, and now would likely use a mild Alfalfa Seed SST foliar in the first 2 wks of stretch, instead, as outlined above, but a 1/4 cup per CF should suffice, if going old school. At your 4 gal rate, that would have to be cut in about half..

Or try one plant lighter, and one a bit heavier, another with none, and note the differences both in size as well as how much leafage.. which is the main thing I don't like about it so much now..
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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DonTesla said:
Hey Luke,

I would say if going with a ground meal, no need to flour it, if putting clean horse pellets in your soil, then yes, do grind them up first.

I personally use much less than I used to, and even am starting to prefer to omit it, and now would likely use a mild Alfalfa Seed SST foliar in the first 2 wks of stretch, instead, as outlined above, but a 1/4 cup per CF should suffice, if going old school. At your 4 gal rate, that would have to be cut in about half..

Or try one plant lighter, and one a bit heavier, another with none, and note the differences both in size as well as how much leafage.. which is the main thing I don't like about it so much now..
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Thanks for your reply Don. Just to clarify 1/8th of a cup to 4 gallons would be a good starting point? Not used to working in CF or Gallons..haha.
I up pot at the same time I go into the flower tent,( space issues) so it sounds like it would be better for me to omit it from the flower mix.
 
DonTesla

DonTesla

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Lucky Luke said:
Thanks for your reply Don. Just to clarify 1/8th of a cup to 4 gallons would be a good starting point? Not used to working in CF or Gallons..haha.
I up pot at the same time I go into the flower tent,( space issues) so it sounds like it would be better for me to omit it from the flower mix.
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Pleasure, Luke.

I think thats a good starting point for someone, can always add more and do foliars or SSTs but cant go backwards, so I would start there..

By the way, 4 US gallons = 53% of a CF, which has 7.48 US gallons per Cubic Foot, so you can basically hit up all recipes online and cut in half to be on your current scale.

Maybe for a long flowering sativa, you could push it in the flowering mix a bit more, but for me, less is more, with alfalfa anyway. I don't like my plants too leafy though, so..
 
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KhanTheOG

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Do you happen to know if alfalfa SEED sprouted tea contain more benefits than regular alfalfa MEAL tea?

DonTesla said:
Hey Luke,

I would say if going with a ground meal, no need to flour it, if putting clean horse pellets in your soil, then yes, do grind them up first.

I personally use much less than I used to, and even am starting to prefer to omit it, and now would likely use a mild Alfalfa Seed SST foliar in the first 2 wks of stretch, instead, as outlined above, but a 1/4 cup per CF should suffice, if going old school. At your 4 gal rate, that would have to be cut in about half..

Or try one plant lighter, and one a bit heavier, another with none, and note the differences both in size as well as how much leafage.. which is the main thing I don't like about it so much now..
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