DrDukePHD
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Would a bottle of Ray's liquor sauce convince you to post more pics?
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Kndreyn
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What is the Deathstar x ACC RKS? I don't see that on his master list. I have his Deathstar bx2. I started a couple last year and they were both male. I need to revisit those soon.
DrCilantroMD
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Two, Jimmy.Would a bottle of Ray's liquor sauce convince you to post more pics?
I can see if I have any more of the NL1 but I have the NL5Haze and Red Grape Leb x Hawaiian cat piss getting ready to chop that I'll try to snag some pictures of. I also have some NL1 f4's I made that will be going into flower soon so I will make sure to take some progress pictures.
jasonryan00
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I have grown out a pack of MTF bx4 and a pack of 89 NL both were resistant to cold temps and seemed to not be bothered by mold whatsoever
because ak is in alaska if you look at his instagram most of his stuff is grown in colder weather so it would be used to the cold
he does a really good job testing his gear as well as stress testing it
jasonryan00
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i really want to go thru my pack of beatix choice after hearing Skunk VA on the new potcast saying it was hands down one of the best things that was lost from nevils original stock in his opinion , along with the TKnl5 haze
GrownAtHighAltitude
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Alaska Cannabis Cache's (the late Heime Cheeba) Road Kill Skunk, that from all accounts wasn't the skunkiest but did have some of the correct terp profiles. Dave knew Heime personally.
For some of the crosses you have to ask him directly for them. He has all kinds of shit in testing and whatever that isn't on the list, or takes awhile to make it there.
Appreciate the feedback! AK doesn't get pm so he doesn't test for it. His words. I was hoping some folks in the Midwest could share their experiences. I have a large variety of his packs and am breeding for outdoors in Missouri. Fall is rainy and the weather changes daily year round. It could be 90 degrees one day and a 50 degree cold rainy night in the same week. I'm looking for some strains that can handle the bad weather. His Freezland, Vintage Blueberry, and Blueberry/Freezeland are the only 3 I found any mention of pm from the digging I've done. Resistance to bugs would be a plus as well. Thanks again for the reply!!!
jasonryan00
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he does test for it if you listen to his episode of the pot cast. yes it's true that PM wasn't up in alaska until around 2018-2019 but it was brought in by a clone from the lower 48. so now that it's up there i'm sure he does test his strains for it
on his insta you can see multipe crops outside exposed to the snow and extreme cold and it's not just freezeland and its crosses
jasonryan00
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also if you have temp and extreme climate changes oudoors than it might be better to go indoor.
it seems with that climate, your choice of outdoor is only making the level of difficulty ridiculously high for no reason.
but if you want to roll the bolder up the hill till you succeed to each their own i guess
thats a lot of genetics and money to burn just to struggle to get to harvest
why not breed the strains indoor them move selected plants outdoors for testing? to achieve the goal of cold/mold resistance
GrownAtHighAltitude
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I was impressed by TK NL5 Haze NL1 (Big Fuck) outdoors, and it went through the last 2 weeks of flower hitting mid 20F temps and raining every day. No mold or rot that I saw, and still good terpene expression. The NL dominant TK NL5 Haze was good too. I was also mighty impressed with Kali Mist, I posted that here previously. It was the last plant in the garden, no rot, no mold.
The BOG Sour Blutooth I ran outside on the other hand, not so much...
The BOG Sour Blutooth I ran outside on the other hand, not so much...
I'll have to go back and listen again. I'm going off an email when I asked him about pm resistant strains. I would guess much of his breeding was done before pm got up there based on his answer or he has managed to keep those cuttings out of his garden.
I have always done indoor. I breed for pm/bug resistance, vigor, resilience, terps, and high. It's a side project and I like a challenge hahaha. Regardless, i am looking for these traits. I'm simply asking if anyone knows of strains with these traits. The ISS/Chocolate Thai would not be one of those haha. The PHK/Vintage Blueberry did better but still not exactly what I'm looking for. The price of the beans is why I'm asking before i pop 1000. Both of those strains are quality and I'd grow again for personal but again not what I'm looking to breed with.
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Great to hear on the TKNL5HAZE crosses. Are those the only 2 TKNL5HAZE crosses you grew or the only 2 that did well? I am planning a stress run with all the TKNL5HAZE crosses at once. Hoping to find some bangers. How was the smoke on the Kali Mist? Potency wise?I was impressed by TK NL5 Haze NL1 (Big Fuck) outdoors, and it went through the last 2 weeks of flower hitting mid 20F temps and raining every day. No mold or rot that I saw, and still good terpene expression. The NL dominant TK NL5 Haze was good too. I was also mighty impressed with Kali Mist, I posted that here previously. It was the last plant in the garden, no rot, no mold.
The BOG Sour Blutooth I ran outside on the other hand, not so much...
Kndreyn
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Deathstar is a Sensi Star cross, which I had back in the early 2000s. It might have even been 1999. It was the rankest smelling stuff I've ever met. I didn't know how to control the odor back then, so I had to let it go. I guess the newer version of Sensi Star has lost that odor. If I'd known then what I know now. I was able to obtain a Deathstar clone a couple of years ago, but it was nothing like it has be described as. So I didn't keep it. Hoping AK's version of it brings that skunkiness with it.
GrownAtHighAltitude
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Just the two testers, kept the Big Fuck pheno for 2 yrs tho. Kali mist was soaring, uplifting, metal haze taste. It is awesome.
I have a few started for outdoor this summer, will post updates.
Re: outdoor resistance, I’ve been able to see how a few do outside at 44 lat in New England.
NL1/Big Skunk x NL1—a few spots of pm toward end of flower, but minimal overall, negligible bud rot, but I keep a close eye for caterpillars.
PHK bx —absolutely fantastic pm and but rot resistance. One of the best plants I’ve run in that regard. 2 years straight, consistent results. Maybe a 3rd year coming up.
Nl5/1 x 89 NL— Also excellent resistance, but, again, I do a lot of maintenance and inspections during flower. (How can you not?!)
Clusterfuck— finished early, not rot or pm, but it was so early that pm hadn’t even really appeared in the garden yet.
Red Grape Leb— another great strain for outdoor growing, IMO.
Haha, as I write this, it seems clear that AKBB gear typically handles outdoor pressures quite well.
(fwiw, I cover my plants under a clear tarp from mid Sept through finish, so moisture is reduced. I also use regalia as a bio-control and will be adding some silica into ,y watering mix this year. Regalia seems to really have helped the past few seasons.)
NL1/Big Skunk x NL1—a few spots of pm toward end of flower, but minimal overall, negligible bud rot, but I keep a close eye for caterpillars.
PHK bx —absolutely fantastic pm and but rot resistance. One of the best plants I’ve run in that regard. 2 years straight, consistent results. Maybe a 3rd year coming up.
Nl5/1 x 89 NL— Also excellent resistance, but, again, I do a lot of maintenance and inspections during flower. (How can you not?!)
Clusterfuck— finished early, not rot or pm, but it was so early that pm hadn’t even really appeared in the garden yet.
Red Grape Leb— another great strain for outdoor growing, IMO.
Haha, as I write this, it seems clear that AKBB gear typically handles outdoor pressures quite well.
(fwiw, I cover my plants under a clear tarp from mid Sept through finish, so moisture is reduced. I also use regalia as a bio-control and will be adding some silica into ,y watering mix this year. Regalia seems to really have helped the past few seasons.)
Homegrown5257
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Actually to many have rolled the rock downhill now. I don’t remember weed from growing back in the 90’s being so prone to problems when grown outdoors. Sure there would sometimes be a little bud rot here and there that had to be cut out and thrown away. But IMO weed was hardier back in the day. Maybe hardiness took a back seat to taste, potency, bag appeal etc.
Or just maybe being bred in a more perfect environment for generations has taking away a little sumthin sumthin!
I think there are several elements to this, number 1 being the pervasiveness of social media and how that amplifies problems that people have when learning to grow. Before the mid 90s I didn't know anyone who grew indoors, and I think some strains have been selected over enough generations indoors to create more issues for them if they are grown outdoors. Also, many people are trying to grow equatorial genetics in northern latitudes, as well as northern originating broadleaf strains, from dry regions, in places with higher humidities. Of course one can use indoor set ups to successfully grow mold prone strains, as well as being able to run 14 week sativas in northern regions. If you approach outdoor growing as a farmer/gardener, you begin selecting cultivars which can finish in your region and give you your desired traits. You develop tricks, such as light dep. Hopefully you start breeding and selecting for what does well for you. I see more and more out door grown and bred cannabis seeds for sale, and I think this will lead to some new regional cultivars that will be as compelling in their own way, as the classic Emerald Triangle sun grown legends we know and love!
I gots a question, y'all - if I may?
Does anybody have any experience with AKBB's SSSC Durban?
JBC says it's original seed stock, so are these freezer beans or are they a repro?
Maybe @Dankortowne could give a final answer on it if anything, but I'm still curious if any y'all have experience growing it.
Cheers!
Does anybody have any experience with AKBB's SSSC Durban?
JBC says it's original seed stock, so are these freezer beans or are they a repro?
Maybe @Dankortowne could give a final answer on it if anything, but I'm still curious if any y'all have experience growing it.
Cheers!
Homegrown5257
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I don’t “breed”to much, however I do f2 almost every line I grow and cross a few polys of different stuff outdoors. That’s where most of the joy comes from for me is making alot of seeds from a few pricey ones lol. Some lines do good OD and others don’t. I grew from the mid 80s through the mid 90’s without near as many options on genetics as we have today so maybe that plays a part in it all idk. I know back then I don’t remember dealing with the root fungus’s, weak plants, pm or similar issues that are more common in today’s time in my region anyway.