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Bakersfield

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Originally Posted by NL Seattle Greg

Aloha,

The base plants for the entire Seattle Northern Lights strains 1 to 10 was a batch of seed sent from Afghanistan that ended up in Herbie's employers hands who just happened to be an old friend from High School so I was able to get four seeds. Then I started doing seed crops of the pure Indica and crossing it with other strains from Nepal, Mexico, and Columbia.

I had clones and seed and NL#5 was Hawaiian x Steve Murphy's Afghani Strain that is what I sent to Nevil. Steve Murphy owned The Indoor Sun Shoppe in Seattle. NL #5 was a F1 hybrid in 1982.

Northern lights # 1 was Nevils Afghani crossed with the Seattle Afghan strain form Steve Murphy.

I have been breeding since 1970 and he got NL from me. I sent seed to Ben and Kees at Sensi too for giving me the nutrient formula for Grodan and Seattle water.

The 11 strains were graded by height and flavor for indoor growing. The #1 was a short phenotype pure Indica from Afghanistan as was #2,3, & 4. #5 to #11 were the Hybrids with the narrow leaved strains we worked with.

The 11 packets of seed Nevil received were graded the #1 ,2, 3, were 100% indica, #5 the clone I traded Herbie Nelson for was 50% Afghani & 50% Hawaiian sativa. The others #6-#11 were crosses with Columbian, Thai, and Mexican Sativas. Nevil then sold out to Ben, became partners with Arjan, and then hooked up with the Mr. Nice Crew.
 

Robar

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In the podcast I believe he said NL 1 was Steve Murphy's Afghani x Nevil's afghani. NL2 was Afghani x "the Indian's" afghani. NL5 is where the Hawaiian Sativa came in. But prior to the numbers, when it was just "northern lights" it sounded like he was saying that was a lot of different stuff mixed together.
I'll have to go and listen again. I've always been interested in knowing the history of NL Thanks!
 

Robar

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Originally Posted by NL Seattle Greg

Aloha,

The base plants for the entire Seattle Northern Lights strains 1 to 10 was a batch of seed sent from Afghanistan that ended up in Herbie's employers hands who just happened to be an old friend from High School so I was able to get four seeds. Then I started doing seed crops of the pure Indica and crossing it with other strains from Nepal, Mexico, and Columbia.

I had clones and seed and NL#5 was Hawaiian x Steve Murphy's Afghani Strain that is what I sent to Nevil. Steve Murphy owned The Indoor Sun Shoppe in Seattle. NL #5 was a F1 hybrid in 1982.

Northern lights # 1 was Nevils Afghani crossed with the Seattle Afghan strain form Steve Murphy.

I have been breeding since 1970 and he got NL from me. I sent seed to Ben and Kees at Sensi too for giving me the nutrient formula for Grodan and Seattle water.

The 11 strains were graded by height and flavor for indoor growing. The #1 was a short phenotype pure Indica from Afghanistan as was #2,3, & 4. #5 to #11 were the Hybrids with the narrow leaved strains we worked with.

The 11 packets of seed Nevil received were graded the #1 ,2, 3, were 100% indica, #5 the clone I traded Herbie Nelson for was 50% Afghani & 50% Hawaiian sativa. The others #6-#11 were crosses with Columbian, Thai, and Mexican Sativas. Nevil then sold out to Ben, became partners with Arjan, and then hooked up with the Mr. Nice Crew.
Thank You very much for the info. Just because I'm curios do you know which afghani Nevil used? It seems like a lot of things were bred to the afghani #1 but I don't know if that fits the time frame or not. Like i say just curious about all things NL
 

Corso312

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Looking over the master list now. Anybody in the midwest or northern climate that ran something outdoors with success? Looking for something that is mold resistant that could pasd for indoor.
 

RichRoots

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Maybe I got that part messed up. LOL maybe it was the other strains that weren't on the list yet LOL leave it to me to foul things up!
I thought I saw that post on ig & I even commented that I already have them now the post is gone...
 

Bakersfield

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All these old Nl genetics coming back is pretty cool.
Im kind of Meh about it, but I'd like to explore them as well.
I never had any super bad ass Northern Lights back in the day.
In the early 90's in Seattle it was the UW strain - green not the purple and G13 that was going around as the best weed in the universe.
Maybe the local Northern Lights were wiped out in raids?
When I started out in 1992
Most Nl that was going around was the seeds from Holland.
I had a very nice Nl from Sensi Seeds that I found out of a 10 pack brought back from Amsterdam.
It didn't even compare to the
Silver Haze (Silver Pearl x Haze) which was hands down the strongest weed I ever had, but took 4 weeks longer to flower and yielded very low.
 

CloudHidden

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In the podcast I believe he said NL 1 was Steve Murphy's Afghani x Nevil's afghani. NL2 was Afghani x "the Indian's" afghani. NL5 is where the Hawaiian Sativa came in. But prior to the numbers, when it was just "northern lights" it sounded like he was saying that was a lot of different stuff mixed together.
That's pretty much what I got from it as well, with "the Indian's" Afghani being an Afghani hybrid - Afghani x Hawaiian. I think "the Indian's" hybrid is where the confusion comes in about it being Hawaiian or a Thai or a Thai from Hawaii or some such thing.

I'm not a 100 on this either, but looking at the old catalogs it looks like Neville's Afghani is a Mazar-i-Sharif, which is different than Afghani #1.
 

Robar

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That's pretty much what I got from it as well, with "the Indian's" Afghani being an Afghani hybrid - Afghani x Hawaiian. I think "the Indian's" hybrid is where the confusion comes in about it being Hawaiian or a Thai or a Thai from Hawaii or some such thing.

I'm not a 100 on this either, but looking at the old catalogs it looks like Neville's Afghani is a Mazar-i-Sharif, which is different than Afghani #1.
Thank you much! Interesting to know.
 

RiparianGardens

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Looking over the master list now. Anybody in the midwest or northern climate that ran something outdoors with success? Looking for something that is mold resistant that could pasd for indoor.
Fast Vintage Blueberry in Northern New England. Gonna try AK4way this year though, he said that one is bulletproof. Freezeland IBL too but I'm just guessing thats gonna be the least passing for indoor of the 3?
 

SYZ

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Greetings :)
Not much to look at right now, but in the front two rows there are:

8 Skunk Qabbage/Mimosa (8/10 germ)
2 Blue Steel/Big Skunk on the right hand side just getting past their freaky, runty beginnings (2/18 germ)

next-batch.jpg

Was tempted to pop some more as I need 8 fit ladies for flowering in the big tent, but the cuts behind are all female and will be used to make up numbers if needed.
 

The Mantis

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All these old Nl genetics coming back is pretty cool.
Im kind of Meh about it, but I'd like to explore them as well.
I never had any super bad ass Northern Lights back in the day.
In the early 90's in Seattle it was the UW strain - green not the purple and G13 that was going around as the best weed in the universe.
Maybe the local Northern Lights were wiped out in raids?
When I started out in 1992
Most Nl that was going around was the seeds from Holland.
I had a very nice Nl from Sensi Seeds that I found out of a 10 pack brought back from Amsterdam.
It didn't even compare to the
Silver Haze (Silver Pearl x Haze) which was hands down the strongest weed I ever had, but took 4 weeks longer to flower and yielded very low.
Glad you thought the same about the silver haze. Best weed I had in Amsterdam circa 2001 and top 5 of all time for me. Still chasing the SH now :)
 

Bakersfield

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Glad you thought the same about the silver haze. Best weed I had in Amsterdam circa 2001 and top 5 of all time for me. Still chasing the SH now :)
I have a whole group of friends that felt the same way after trying her.
2 hits were almost too intense.
This was back when good weed probably averaged in the upper teens percentage of THC, but Silver Haze was epic!
Have you or anyone else reading this taken the time to grow Sensi Seeds current offering of Silver Haze?
I'm still on the fence about trying Nature Farmers seeds, because his phenotype doesn't match the more haze leaning version that I grew.
 

Kndreyn

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every time i hear one of these "I was gifted 40 year old rare seeds" stories from AKBB i grow more skeptical

hes said this atleast 30 different times now
I've been skeptical for awhile now and have saved a lot of posts here and on instagram that contradict each other. I'm sure he's got some good stuff, but it's hard to not look at some of this without some skepticism. And with all the gungho userps singing the praises then up and disappear, i'm suspecting the Clintons might be involved somehow haha... i started some more TLNL5HAZE and we'll see how it goes. But everything from AKBB except Black Velvet i've ran so far has hermied on me, while all other breeder's gear is outstanding. I did give some Hawaiian catpiss v3 to a friend to run and he had no issues that i know of.
 

GrassBurner

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Ive got his PHK bx and NL1/Big Skunk a few weeks into flower right now. When did you notice your plants starting to herm? What kind of lights/medium do you use, or were these grown outdoors?
 
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