AK Bean Brains

Kndreyn

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Awesome, 100% germ rate!
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They all went into their respective solo's for beginning growth stages; lets see how long it takes for em to break ground.
I just transferred my Darian Gap and Consumption from 3 oz cups of perlite in to 3" net pots of hyrdoton in a rain forest. I'm trying a completely new type of grow, to me. I've been growing in Promix, drain to waste, for a long time. I'll be using the rain forest to get them started, then in to a flood and drain table. Trying to eliminate the mess I've been dealing with.
 

Robar

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Awesome, 100% germ rate!
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They all went into their respective solo's for beginning growth stages; lets see how long it takes for em to break ground.
Nice! I'll be watching. Just found those same freebies when I was looking through my seeds this morning. I read/heard somewhere that the black dom back-cross is supposed to be right on point. If thats true then those should be straight up fire!
 

BDGrows

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I just transferred my Darian Gap and Consumption from 3 oz cups of perlite in to 3" net pots of hyrdoton in a rain forest. I'm trying a completely new type of grow, to me. I've been growing in Promix, drain to waste, for a long time. I'll be using the rain forest to get them started, then in to a flood and drain table. Trying to eliminate the mess I've been dealing with.
I found when I ran hydro that DtW was incredibly expensive and wasteful. I upgraded my system to a RTODS (Recirculating Top fed Organic Drip system) and haven't looked back. I get the yields hydro offers along with the quick growth rate and potency, but by going organic and basically making "liquid soil", I get the complex terp profiles and ease of use in the reservoir so I don't have to constantly monitor pH and whatnot (but this is due to the buffering capacity).
Nice! I'll be watching. Just found those same freebies when I was looking through my seeds this morning. I read/heard somewhere that the black dom back-cross is supposed to be right on point. If thats true then those should be straight up fire!
Yeah I am stoked on these ones. Ideally, I can find a nice mother to change up the wheelhouse a bit, but truthfully I'm most interested in finding a good male to get pollen from. Lately, though I've been popping these 6 pack freebies and I've been getting all females, so who knows.
 

Kndreyn

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fck, now I have to convince myself not to go buy more seeds :wall:
A guy gave me a whole shoe box of seeds he bought back in the early 2000s from the auctions at Heaven's Stairway. Sadly he didn't keep them properly so they're all dead. But just wanted to mention that this addiction to buying seeds is a real thing, and has been going around awhile haha...
 

klyphman

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Sadly he didn't keep them properly so they're all dead.
/Quick tangent.

I’m probably done germing until next May. Currently my seeds are triple bagged and in an air and light free container in the fridge. Should I be storing in the chest freezer instead and just removing the few seeds I need at a time?

/end tangent
 

HolyAngel

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/Quick tangent.

I’m probably done germing until next May. Currently my seeds are triple bagged and in an air and light free container in the fridge. Should I be storing in the chest freezer instead and just removing the few seeds I need at a time?

/end tangent
If you keep them in the fridge they should last years without much harm if you have to remove some or something for a bit.

If you keep them in the freezer, every time you defrost them and then refreeze them you're gonna lose some seeds. Definite loss of viability. But the seeds will last a decade or more in the freezer.

So really its up to how long you need to keep them around before germinating.
 

BDGrows

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/Quick tangent.

I’m probably done germing until next May. Currently my seeds are triple bagged and in an air and light free container in the fridge. Should I be storing in the chest freezer instead and just removing the few seeds I need at a time?

/end tangent
If you keep them in the fridge they should last years without much harm if you have to remove some or something for a bit.

If you keep them in the freezer, every time you defrost them and then refreeze them you're gonna lose some seeds. Definite loss of viability. But the seeds will last a decade or more in the freezer.

So really its up to how long you need to keep them around before germinating.
The fridge works great for preserving beans for ~ 3 - 5 years I've found. Whereas if you freeze them then you can get anywhere from 10 - 30+ (I think AKBB said he has beans from the 80s that are still popping he's kept in his deep freeze). What I like to do is put them in a plastic baggie, then in a glass jar with a color indicating desiccant and throw em in the freezer. As long as you don't continually defrost and freeze them you should be ok, but as @HolyAngel mentioned; the more cycles you do this, the lower % of viable seeds you'll have. I have heard of old heads transporting beans that've been thawed and refrozen a few times and they still get good numbers though. But opening the freezer or pulling out a jar to remove a seed pack doesn't cause harm to any of em so you should be good. I remember the first time I froze my collection I nearly shit cause when I germed some of my seeds later on they "took longer" than expected so I thought when I froze them I killed all of my stock. Alas no, and I've been freezing them ever since.

- BD
 

unfiltered

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The haziest is Consumption by a mile... If you want the most potent face fucking, head twisting tknl5haze version go with Consumption. I am sure that between tknl5haze (tk dom) and tknl5haze (NL dom) that the TK dom would most certainly lean harder towards the haze. TK does not come out in most crosses as strongly as compared to the NL#1... and the NL is more indica dominant anyway when compared to the TK.

But if you want that hard haze face ripping shit that people will accuse you of being laced, go with Consumption. Or better yet in my opinion, I'd go with the CG/PR x tknl5haze... AKBB told me himself that the CG/PR x tknl5haze was extremely potent and not for the faint of heart.. He said it was very paranoia inducing, hardcore head raping high that would cause some to panic and rush to the nearest ER...

When we talked about the tknl5haze in his potcast, he refers me to the f2s, not the latest offerings that have a tk or NL dominance. Obviously because the haze pheno is more prevalent. The ticket is in the haze... for sure!

Tknl5haze f2s or consumption for the win... :cool: that is, if you're searching for that legendary high.
@psychadelibud Thank you for the info, but have you or anyone actually grown and done a proper smoke report of the Consumption, TK NL5 Haze, and CG/PR x TKNL5HAZE?

I don't mean to rain on people's parade, but I don't see much smoke reports on here but a lot of speculation and excitement. And yes, I listened to that PotCast and it sounded great, but I want to see actual results from growers like you and me.

Usually for sativa with trippy/psychedlic/soaring/energy/creative effect, I go with SnowHigh and Ace Seeds as they have a crap load of pure landrace crosses without any indica or skunk pollution. And if you go to Ace Seed forum on IC, you'd see a lot of actual grow and smoke reports attesting to their great pure genetics.
 

Kndreyn

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@psychadelibud Thank you for the info, but have you or anyone actually grown and done a proper smoke report of the Consumption, TK NL5 Haze, and CG/PR x TKNL5HAZE?

I don't mean to rain on people's parade, but I don't see much smoke reports on here but a lot of speculation and excitement. And yes, I listened to that PotCast and it sounded great, but I want to see actual results from growers like you and me.

Usually for sativa with trippy/psychedlic/soaring/energy/creative effect, I go with SnowHigh and Ace Seeds as they have a crap load of pure landrace crosses without any indica or skunk pollution. And if you go to Ace Seed forum on IC, you'd see a lot of actual grow and smoke reports attesting to their great pure genetics.
Yeah I'd like to see some actual smoke reports. I'm pretty well invested based on the hype. I have some TK NL5 Haze just finishing up. I can say that they're not going to be much in the yield department. I snipped a couple of small buds a week or so ago and dried them on top of the ballast. So far the potency seems ok. Nice hair tingling buzz that seems to last quite awhile. They're at 60 days now and look to need a couple more weeks. I just started some Consumption and CG/PR x TKNL5HAZE. I'm not much on writing up fancy grow reports but I'll certainly give my thoughts on each as they progress,.
 

Don beta

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Yeah I'd like to see some actual smoke reports. I'm pretty well invested based on the hype. I have some TK NL5 Haze just finishing up. I can say that they're not going to be much in the yield department. I snipped a couple of small buds a week or so ago and dried them on top of the ballast. So far the potency seems ok. Nice hair tingling buzz that seems to last quite awhile. They're at 60 days now and look to need a couple more weeks. I just started some Consumption and CG/PR x TKNL5HAZE. I'm not much on writing up fancy grow reports but I'll certainly give my thoughts on each as they progress,.
I’ve got 7 tknl5 hazes about 4 weeks in, all stacking up nicely and all look to be really good yielders. Extremely loud smell on all of them already. 3 stretched nicely into a haze dom structure and two of those have a main cola setting up about the length of my elbow to the tips of my fingers. Fuckers are going for it. Smoke report would be nice
 

Kndreyn

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I’ve got 7 tknl5 hazes about 4 weeks in, all stacking up nicely and all look to be really good yielders. Extremely loud smell on all of them already. 3 stretched nicely into a haze dom structure and two of those have a main cola setting up about the length of my elbow to the tips of my fingers. Fuckers are going for it. Smoke report would be nice
That's really interesting since mine have hardly any odor at all. A slight lemon smell and that's it. My last grow my scrubber couldn't keep up with the odor, but this one I haven't even turned it on. They've got a haze look to them and are putting on some resin, but not really putting much weight on and very low odor. Weird....
 

psychadelibud

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That's really interesting since mine have hardly any odor at all. A slight lemon smell and that's it. My last grow my scrubber couldn't keep up with the odor, but this one I haven't even turned it on. They've got a haze look to them and are putting on some resin, but not really putting much weight on and very low odor. Weird....
Sounds like you either got a not so good pheno or maybe some growing mistake along the way. But I dont know, do you have photos? Would love to see it!
 

psychadelibud

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@psychadelibud Thank you for the info, but have you or anyone actually grown and done a proper smoke report of the Consumption, TK NL5 Haze, and CG/PR x TKNL5HAZE?

I don't mean to rain on people's parade, but I don't see much smoke reports on here but a lot of speculation and excitement. And yes, I listened to that PotCast and it sounded great, but I want to see actual results from growers like you and me.

Usually for sativa with trippy/psychedlic/soaring/energy/creative effect, I go with SnowHigh and Ace Seeds as they have a crap load of pure landrace crosses without any indica or skunk pollution. And if you go to Ace Seed forum on IC, you'd see a lot of actual grow and smoke reports attesting to their great pure genetics.
No I've not flowered anything out yet nor have I smoked anything from AKBB... But I can tell you I have seen more than enough smoke reports on insta and so many people after trying tknl5haze get their minds blown... AKBB is not like 98% of most other breeders, hes not out there trying to advertise anything at all. He tells it like it is and keeps advertising to the minimum... I can guarantee you one thing, he is the best man I have EVER met in the breeding and even cannabis industry by far. He has sent me countless packs of seeds, will gift me any clone I want and communication is every single day... He is a good friend! And he was this way before I even mentioned collaborating the Beatrix and m48. I'm pretty sure @Bakersfield has finished and grown out some of his stuff and said the tknl5haze was very potent... it was either him or someone else a few pages back.

So to answer your question, yes I absolutely do believe AKBBs claims... like I said, there is countless reports on insta and more grows than you could imagine.

Either way.... we will find out soon enough, I have a grow room full of 90% AKBB and outdoors is also about 90% AKBB... I would not waste my time with the genetics if I knew they were bunk or didn't live up to what they are supposed to be. I can say that absolutely everything i have from him is extremely vigorous and very uniform. Stem rubs are all oily and reek of terps!
 

psychadelibud

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@Kndreyn also, all the grows I've seen on insta the tknl5haze is a very very heavy yielding plant. Nl5haze in general will give you arm length buds, all over the place! One of the heaviest yielding plants I've ever grown was a nl5haze... what is your setup like and do you have more than just one to judge by??
 

psychadelibud

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I'll make sure and fill this thread with pages and pages with results of all his gear I grow out... Detailed smoke reports etc... I think that will help people feel more confident and comfortable with his genetics. Never heard not one single bad thing about him or his gear... I communicate with a ton of breeders on insta and they all say the same thing, coolest legit cat in the industry!
 
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