Agave instead of molasses

roosba

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I use molasses in the last 2 wks of flushing my plants for harvest, and I was wondering if anyone has tried Agave sweetener instead? I understand that this is a natural sugar (carbs) as is molasses. Just a stoner asking a question. thanks for the feedback!
 

massah

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molasses/carbs feed the bacteria in your soil promoting healthy root growth/function...there is no point in using it the last 2 weeks of flowering...its best used during veg and the start of flowering :)
 

SketchyGrower

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molasses/carbs feed the bacteria in your soil promoting healthy root growth/function...there is no point in using it the last 2 weeks of flowering...its best used during veg and the start of flowering :)
I must be thinking about this all wrong.. If you feed to get the roots nice and health..(revitalizing them to optimal preformance).. And are not feeding anything at all other then to feed the bacteria..wouldn't that then cause the plant to use everything up quicker? My mind works different most of the time so I woulnt be surprised if I'm totally missing the boat on this...
 

scroglodyte

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the molasses has nutes that agave does not, but as a carb source its great, and not as messy. i brew my teas with it. (if its on sale....i'm cheap)
 

Sunbiz1

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I must be thinking about this all wrong.. If you feed to get the roots nice and health..(revitalizing them to optimal preformance).. And are not feeding anything at all other then to feed the bacteria..wouldn't that then cause the plant to use everything up quicker? My mind works different most of the time so I woulnt be surprised if I'm totally missing the boat on this...
Molasses feeds the microbes in soil, then plants in turn feed on the microbes.
 

SketchyGrower

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So, in other words experimentation is pointless? I am at The start of week six did my soil leeching and was thinking of giving 1/2 the room a end of flower Bennie brew... Just to see if it helps them yellow faster. Would you say this is a waste?
 

scroglodyte

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sugar raises micro-herd levels which in turn eat up more nutes, providing MORE plant nutes. not less
 

Sunbiz1

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So, in other words experimentation is pointless? I am at The start of week six did my soil leeching and was thinking of giving 1/2 the room a end of flower Bennie brew... Just to see if it helps them yellow faster. Would you say this is a waste?
Why would you want to yellow your leaves?, you are starving your plants by depriving them of N. That should only happen when plants are allowed to become overripe...like the commercial garbage I saw yesterday. Read through the organics section here, there you will find many good tips as well as in the provided link.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03055/Feed-the-Soil-Not-the-Plants.html

"In a natural, healthy soil lives a universe of critters eating and excreting. Bacteria eat fungi, fungi eat bacteria, nematodes eat fungi, fungi eat nematodes, worms eat more or less everything, and all of them excrete. Or if not fully consumed, their bodies lay there, caches of nutrients for the taking. Plants are part of this process. Roots actually exude materials that attract fungus and bacteria to gather where they are, so that they can take advantage of this game, too. Some bacteria and fungus actually directly feed plants in exchange for food the plant provides. Fungus can even extend the roots of the plants, growing from the tips out, further into the soil helping the plant find more water and nutrients."

Peace!
 

SketchyGrower

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Hahahaha thank god i haven't done it yet then.... Shit, now what to do about the 2 five gallon buckets of brew brewing downstairs.
 

SketchyGrower

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Why would you want to yellow your leaves?, you are starving your plants by depriving them of N. That should only happen when plants are allowed to become overripe...like the commercial garbage I saw yesterday. Read through the organics section here, there you will find many good tips as well as in the provided link.

http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/ART03055/Feed-the-Soil-Not-the-Plants.html

"In a natural, healthy soil lives a universe of critters eating and excreting. Bacteria eat fungi, fungi eat bacteria, nematodes eat fungi, fungi eat nematodes, worms eat more or less everything, and all of them excrete. Or if not fully consumed, their bodies lay there, caches of nutrients for the taking. Plants are part of this process. Roots actually exude materials that attract fungus and bacteria to gather where they are, so that they can take advantage of this game, too. Some bacteria and fungus actually directly feed plants in exchange for food the plant provides. Fungus can even extend the roots of the plants, growing from the tips out, further into the soil helping the plant find more water and nutrients."

Peace!
I had my friends dad come over to help add in a few more electrical outlets in my flower room., while we were in there he asked what week I was on after telling him he told me my plants looked a way to vibrant n green for week 7 (this was my previous harvest this discussion took place) I usually have pretty green girls all the way up until harvest... he stated this was bad and expressed to much nitrogen in the soil n plant still and advised me to do something to yellow up your plants to show that the nutrients were being used up.. hence why I was trying to yellow them out. said see if I noticed anything different in the taste department.
 

Sunbiz1

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I had my friends dad come over to help add in a few more electrical outlets in my flower room., while we were in there he asked what week I was on after telling him he told me my plants looked a way to vibrant n green for week 7 (this was my previous harvest this discussion took place) I usually have pretty green girls all the way up until harvest... he stated this was bad and expressed to much nitrogen in the soil n plant still and advised me to do something to yellow up your plants to show that the nutrients were being used up.. hence why I was trying to yellow them out. said see if I noticed anything different in the taste department.
Were the leaves in the previous grow dark green or burnt tips?, if not you were fine. They should look like the attached photo near harvest.
 

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Sunbiz1

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No, you have too many white pistils still producing. Wait until they recede and change color a bit more. I also use the microscope, although trich color doesn't always indicate "doneness". I have also found harvesting a strain for the first time is always tricky, second time and I know when to chop.

And they look fine, please don't flush.

Peace!
 

roosba

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thanks for the info people. I just like to try different things. sometimes I just think of things, and most of the time it's just nonsense!!!
 
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