Aeroponic Space Shuttle

Earl said:

I change to bloom nutes shortly after I flip the lights.

We were just talking about veg nutes.

For bloom nutes you can choose.

I have used Connoisseur and like it.
I am using it now in the Space shuttle.

I have SensiBloom also
and will use it in the DWC and Shoebox aero.

The 1100 ppm on my meter
was when I was using Dutch Master Nutes
and I was running them @ 70 % during peak flower,
1600 being 100% load.

With Connoisseur,
I use 650 as a max.

With the SensiBloom,
I will use bloom enhancers.
With Connoisseur I will not.

I do not recommend spending money on Piranha,
Tarantula, or Voodoo juice.

They are all very expensive
and if you keep your rez cool,
totally unnecessary.

Here is your "hydro store" shopping list
for Aero or DWC:

1 liter each SensiGrow A&B($40)

[1 liter each Connoisseur A&B($90)
or 1 liter each SensiBloom A&B($45)]

1 liter of Barricade($1

1gl of Sensizym($90)

1gl of Grandma Engy's F1 ($90)

1 liter of pH down($15)

General Hydroponics pH up powder ($15)

If you are running more than one mag drive pump,
you may need some Botanicare CalMag plus,
to replace Iron than is lost between nute changes.
You will not need much. 1 liter will do.
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Awesome man, thanks so much for going as in depth as you do to explain things for me, I really do appreciate it. Looks like I have a big trip to the hydro store heh, luckily I still have cal mag lying around, bought a while ago just in case for deficiences. Thanks again for the info.

K well after using all the info you have been giving me and the info I got off my last grow, I have concluded there are is one thing that is the PRIME concern with using an aeroponic/NFT system, apart from normal growing conditions (temperature, humidity, lighting, and nutes).

Choosing the number of plants for your system.

This should directly relate to how big your resevoir is. I recently put 20 plants in my NFT/aero system with two tubes, 10 plants per tube, and a 20 gallon rez. This makes it so there was only about 1 gallon of nutrient water per plant, seeing how with aeroponics you have to maintain a low ppm budget the water can only hold so much nutrients. With a system where the plants only have one gallon each to ratio of the rez, they will run out of nutrients VERY fast (way before you will probably do a rez change). When plants use nutrients out of the water they will raise the PH, depending on how many plants are in the system compared to the size of the rez will determine how much your PH will rise in 24 hours, as well as how fast it will rise. When I had a ratio of only 1 gallon of nutrient water per plant, the PH would rise from 5.6 to 7.2 in a matter of 10-12 hours, in 24 hours the water will be around 8.5PH. At this point, after the PH has been sitting over 6.5 for a few hours or more, your plants growth will slow down extremely due to the fact that as PH rises anywhere above 6.1 certain nutrients stop becoming avaliable to the plants. You basically want to make sure the number of plants you have for your system will not raise your PH to anything more than 6.5 in a matter of 24 hours. Even with this you will still have to check the PH almost everyday to make sure it never goes over 6.5 so depending on how often you want to check your system's PH will determine how many plants you should consider growing compared to your rez size. Also part of controlling an aeroponic system properly has to do with allowing the PH to fluctuate between 5.6 to 6.1 PH over a 24 to 72 hour period because different nutrients are avaliable at different PH levels in an aeroponic system. So if your PH rises to around 6.1 PH in 24 hours, you should check your PH every 24 hours to lower the it back to 5.6, that way the PH will fluctuate between 5.6 (what you set it at) and 6.1 PH (what it rises to), if it rises that much in 12 hours then you should check it every 12 to make sure that the PH only fluctuates between 5.6 and 6.1 and no higher or lower. Anyways, to make things easier for yourself you should probably go with at LEAST a 3 gallon per plant ratio so that they have plenty of nutrients between each rez change and so that the PH will not fluctuate like crazy. I believe you have 30 gallons Earl for 4 plants, thats almost 7.5 gallons per plant!! With this ratio I doubt he ever sees any defficiences that I definitely had when trying to use a 1 gallon per plant ratio.

Thanks again Earl on enlightening us all with your design. The insulation is just ingenious and probably mitigates heat so well that it is as if your plants are in the ground.

Keep on keeping on.

http://nutramist.com/nutramistgardens.html

http://www.futuregarden.com/hydroponics/systems_nutramist.html

Hey Earl, what do you think about using this in conjunction with your system, or a NFT like it. You could use it to feed the roots when the sprayers are off because it feeds such small microns of water that the roots can still breath while absorbing it. Was thinking of getting one, you can use it as a humidifier, a foliar sprayer, and as a root fogger, also the cool thing is that it attatches to your rez so you don't need to fill it up seperately (fills using gravity, not a pump). What do you think?

Was also thinking of using it for my veg system and instead of using sprayers at all I was thinking of just using this instead until the roots start drinking a sufficient amount of water and I actually NEED to turn the sprayers on. But yeah it seems interesting.

I went down the fogger road.
The original design of the space shuttle had fog.
Fog sucks for many reasons.
Here is the low down.

Nutramist and why not to buy one.

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Earl said:

I went down the fogger road.
The original design of the space shuttle had fog.
Fog sucks for many reasons.
Here is the low down.

Nutramist and why not to buy one.

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THIS IS WHY I ASK YOU ALL THAT I DO....lol because you know everything. Thanks for the info, I figure the only legit system for fogging is the atomix then, but even then who knows it might be a piece of crap too hah.


So as far as insulation goes, I was thinking of building a 1/2 plywood box around my tubes, about 3 inches of space on all sides but the top (so the plants can stick out) , and then fill it in with that foam insulation they use in houses now. It expands to any shape, that way I could have the tubes insulated like crazy. After that I was going to wrap the whole box in black/white poly paper. All of this together should mitigate heat pretty well, does it sound good?, or do you think I should stick to regular pink insulation, seems to work well for you.

StinkyWidowCindy


ChemoCindy

Earl, your grows are always gravy...!
I still have nightmare's of that hugh gal', from last year
when we first met...!

The space shuttle is always eye candy... As are all your op's...!


Db.~tlb!

Do you have a grow journal that I'm missing ?

Not yet, i am making the pages up on the desktop then will release
when i got it worked a bit better... The script part...

Plants just a growing away here..!

Db.

nobody cares about your script
lets see the pictures.

Earl said:

nobody cares about your script
lets see the pictures.

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OK, SEEING DB' IS A PORN WHORE, YOUR WORDS RING TRUE..!

ENJOY, COMMENTS ALLWAYS WELCOME... ESP' THE DIRTY ONES...!


DB.~TLB!

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/143031-pornfolio.html

Another flush day.
AN connoisseur at 500ppm 5.6

looking great Earl, as always.....

what happend

Oh fuck!!! I know exactly what happened. The pump failed. Ask me how I know.

I think he said he had dual pumps.

Do you have dual pumps now PF?

Earl said:

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Shocking !

I drained the nutes and left it to see how long it would take to die.
3 days.
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Hey earl where did you happen to get those black things that you use to connect your reservoirs, they screw into thesideof the rezand then connect to the pipe that connects the two reservoirs. Thanks for the help.

Earl thought i would drop a pic by ya and show what i came up with ....i read and watched a lot of your stuff when i chose how i was gonna grow...thanks for taking your time to advance peoples knowledge of aeroponics and sharing your endevours with us.

I have been having some problems with ph lockout(when these pics where taken) but it seems to be all squared away and the plants look really good now.Bought a nice milwaukee ph meter and a good tds meter...



little black tub is the res holds 11g...the root res is a tough box from HD..these things work great ...they dont leak at all..18$ tho..i had a hell of a time with that!!!

650gph pump ..little green sprayers ..and bulk heads from tractor supply...




the spraybar is easly detachable as no pvc glue is required on internal parts..easy cleaning , easy switching..ect

The roots are actually blind your eyes white but due some brown additives and hps they look a little pastey...

roots never touch the res...never...i lay a couples layer of plastic screen downon the bottom so they cant get to the drain..

growth is nuts..when you dont have problem with ph like i did......


...well there you go Earl...

L8r




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