Aeroponic - clone problems! Please help!
Heya bros, been having hell trying to get these clones to take off so i thought i would see if i can get some help.
Let me run down all of the conditions real quick-
First the cloner:
I am using a custom made aerocloner - roughneck 33gal rubbermaid with a 633 gph pump - built into a pvc frame with aeromist 360 sprayers ever few inches covering a total of 60 sites (they are packed in pretty damn close but every one of em is still able to get air and light).
Light is on 24hours a day, its a 600 watt MH sitting about 3 feet away.
Brita filtered tapwater from my place is around 150ppm and normally almost 9ph. I have been using spa ph down (not sure if thats ok.. perhaps there is an organic ph down i should be using?) to bring it down to 5.8
Water temp is heated (with a fish tank heater) to 75F i dont use an airstone right now... didnt see anyone else using one for standard aeromist cloners, so i didnt think it was necessary.
I have tried both with just tapwater and also with a few ppm of Clonex, cant see any diff to be honest.
Spray timers are 1 min on - 5 off.
Room temp is kept between 75F Day- 68F Night.
Now the clones:
Clones were taking from a vegging Barneys farm LSD genetics mother that is very healthy. they are instantly put into water after cutting them so no airbubbles would get in the stems. I use 5.8ph water with a few ppm of clonex for that.
They clones are in 2" net pots with neoprene insterts.
Clones are on an average of 6-8" long with all their lage fan leaves snipped in half (for space more then anything).
From day 1 they never shows signs of wilting or turning color,they always look like that are still chillin on mom.
Now the problem:
Clones will only form starting budding roots after a week or two. Nothing happens past that popint exept that they seem to turn a tiny tint brown after another week.
PH goes up from 5.8 to 6.3-6.5 in 24 hours - PPM goes UP around 5-15.
Even after 3 or 4 weeks its still the same sad story... I am at a complete loss
I am going to try and change the res with distilled water and see if that helps, other then that i cant think ofa damn thing as to what i am doing wrong.
Please any help at all would be amazing, thanks a ton brothers -Tatt
As a final note i can throw some pics in if there is a need for em, though i think i pretty much covered everything.
Heya bros, been having hell trying to get these clones to take off so i thought i would see if i can get some help.
Let me run down all of the conditions real quick-
First the cloner:
I am using a custom made aerocloner - roughneck 33gal rubbermaid with a 633 gph pump - built into a pvc frame with aeromist 360 sprayers ever few inches covering a total of 60 sites (they are packed in pretty damn close but every one of em is still able to get air and light).
Light is on 24hours a day, its a 600 watt MH sitting about 3 feet away.
Brita filtered tapwater from my place is around 150ppm and normally almost 9ph. I have been using spa ph down (not sure if thats ok.. perhaps there is an organic ph down i should be using?) to bring it down to 5.8
Water temp is heated (with a fish tank heater) to 75F i dont use an airstone right now... didnt see anyone else using one for standard aeromist cloners, so i didnt think it was necessary.
I have tried both with just tapwater and also with a few ppm of Clonex, cant see any diff to be honest.
Spray timers are 1 min on - 5 off.
Room temp is kept between 75F Day- 68F Night.
Now the clones:
Clones were taking from a vegging Barneys farm LSD genetics mother that is very healthy. they are instantly put into water after cutting them so no airbubbles would get in the stems. I use 5.8ph water with a few ppm of clonex for that.
They clones are in 2" net pots with neoprene insterts.
Clones are on an average of 6-8" long with all their lage fan leaves snipped in half (for space more then anything).
From day 1 they never shows signs of wilting or turning color,they always look like that are still chillin on mom.
Now the problem:
Clones will only form starting budding roots after a week or two. Nothing happens past that popint exept that they seem to turn a tiny tint brown after another week.
PH goes up from 5.8 to 6.3-6.5 in 24 hours - PPM goes UP around 5-15.
Even after 3 or 4 weeks its still the same sad story... I am at a complete loss
I am going to try and change the res with distilled water and see if that helps, other then that i cant think ofa damn thing as to what i am doing wrong.
Please any help at all would be amazing, thanks a ton brothers -Tatt
As a final note i can throw some pics in if there is a need for em, though i think i pretty much covered everything.
deff time to get new ph down/up. Though i have noticed what appears to be sodium on the tops of the neoprene inserts (white powdery and not mold). it washes off with no problem but it did have me wondering.
