Aerogarden/DWC Blue Mystic/Sour D grow

Hello ladies and gents! As the title implies, I am growing both Blue Mystic and Sour Diesel in my first Hydro grow! Here is the basic setup!



VEGGING -

Aerogarden classic, 2 65watt cfls and 2 26watters, one of each spectrum. I currently have four seedlings, 3 blue mystic, and one Sour diesel. The lights are on 24/0, and I have added an air stone to the AG res, and shut off the drip system when the roots hit water. Plants are currently 12 days from first germination.

I plan to Veg these plants 3-4 weeks, and then take cuttings to sex and determine mother plant hopefuls. If all goes well, I plan to have a perpetual harvest, keeping 2 plants in veg long enough to get a solid set of clones, and then continue to take cutting from the maturing plants before they get flowered.

FLOWERING -

I have constructed a 6 site DWC Rubbermaid Tote, Which will serve as the flowering bucket. I also constructed a enclosed grow "tent" out of PVC and Poster board.

I have been milling around ideas about how to train these plants, as I have only about 2.5 to 3 feet of growing space to work with. Because of that, I'm not sure if I will keep the Sour D plant or not. Blue Mystic is a fast finisher at 8 weeks, and keeps a low profile, along with a very neutral smell (In comparison to other strains)

For the first few cycles, I may simply top my plants, and then add a screen if it becomes necessary. Any ideas would be welcome, of course.

Another thing that is up in the air, is how I plan to ventilate the flowering room. I plan on buying a 150 watt HPS from HTC supply, and I noticed that there is a vent opening in the top of the light where you can exhaust. I think I will just drill a hole in the poster board at the top of the tent and fit a 4 inch fan.

I was speaking with my guy at the hydro store, and he was saying that it was more important to have a positive pressure in the room than a negative one, so I will also need to find a way to have a larger intake than exhaust. Again, ideas are welcome.

Here are some pictures to start us off.

For nutrients, I am using Botanicare Pure Blend.

Here are some pictures of the plants from yesterday. I just noticed early yesterday morning that there was some slight leaf curling, and browning across all 4 plants... Since the plants were not in any nutrients, I went ahead and did an air bath, flushed the res and added a seedlings pack of nutrients. I will try to stay active and ontop of the nutrients, because I need these plants to thrive and produce some quality cuttings!

wow.. i really like your little set-up.. its looking really good man!! keep up the good work.. and i cant wait to see how thet come out.. Blue Mystic is one of my favorite.. even tho ive never smokes it or grew it.. lol. it just lok really good. and i plan on ordering some blue mystic seeds from nirvana in a month or two.. deff keep us posted on how the grow goes!! ill be checkin in all the time man.. subscribed

also.. not gonna lie.. i probably wont be able to help you out much since this is a "hydro" grow.. and i have noooooo idea how to do that. lol.. but it should be interesting to watch.. because i kinda want to try a hydro grow soon.. one more thing.. did you order those seeds from nirvana?? or did u get them from a friend??

chb444220 said:

wow.. i really like your little set-up.. its looking really good man!! keep up the good work.. and i cant wait to see how thet come out.. Blue Mystic is one of my favorite.. even tho ive never smokes it or grew it.. lol. it just lok really good. and i plan on ordering some blue mystic seeds from nirvana in a month or two.. deff keep us posted on how the grow goes!! ill be checkin in all the time man.. subscribed

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Hey bud! Thanks for stopping by! I got the Mystic seeds from Nirvana, and the Sour D was from a friends summer crop!

I am having some pretty severe discoloration across all the plants, but my PH is between 6-6.5, so it is in a decent range. It looks to me like classic nutrient burn, but there is no way - The amount I used was negligible, you couldn't even notice it once it was mixed in. I read that the aerogardens are notorious for this early burning, so I will continue with what I am doing, and just try to keep up with the plants the best that I can. Any advice is welcome!

I'll get some pictures up in a little bit.

Here are some pictures from this morning. The new growth seems to be ok, hopefully by the end of the day there will be enough to determine if what I have done is sufficient or not.

I went out and bought the GH PH test kit, and my PH is right where it should be! This has me stumped as to what could be causing the discoloration of the plants? They are still growing alright, but I would like to stop the problem before it gets too bad. Pictures from tonight as soon as I take a few vape pulls and find the camera.

Back in a flash!

Alright! So the pictures for day 12, at 8:45 PM!

it looks like nutrient burn or some sort of defeciency change your nutrient solution and feed very lil strength from those pics you would want to give very lil veg food what ever they say on the bottle give it half at first only give it a and b then after you correct your problem then start adding other nuits

triniman said:

it looks like nutrient burn or some sort of defeciency change your nutrient solution and feed very lil strength from those pics you would want to give very lil veg food what ever they say on the bottle give it half at first only give it a and b then after you correct your problem then start adding other nuits

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Thanks for the input, but unfortunately I am only using a one part nutrient solution! Not to mention, I have currently only given the plants a half-dose of the recommended seedling dosage!

When I was reading a post from Roseman, he mentioned that nute burned leaves curl down, whereas my leaves have been curling up. Since the air around the plants is not hot to the touch, I am assuming that I am not having any heat issues, so I am stumped. I flushed the other day, and made sure my PH was solid, which I tested again today with the same result. I am hoping that they will correct themselves and grow out of whatever it is that bothers them.

Well, shit. I was hoping to wake up to new growth and recovering plants... Unfortunately there is new growth, but also more severe leaf curling and discoloration. The only thing that I can think of is my humidity. It has been between 14-19% since the grow started. I don't think that my plants are stunted for 13 days from seed, which would come fro humidity... The only input I have been able to get about leaves curling up is an underfeeding problem... But that seems unlikely to me in this stage of the game.



Pictures to come after breakfast.

So I was reading that a Mg Deficiency can cause the leaves to curl upward! Maybe an easy fix? I am gonna change the res, and pick up some Epsom salt at walmart this morning, as well as change to a 1/2 strength nutrient solution. If this is the right assumption, then they are starving and not getting the nutrients they desire! Here are the pictures for this morning.

Alright!


So the changes!



1. Humidifier added. I will edit with the new humidity in an hour.
2. 1 TBS/Gallon Ebsom Salt added to the mix.
3. 1/2 strength nutrients added.
4. For the first time, I had to mess with my PH to get it to 6, but I got it there in about 5 tries.
5. Drain and replenish for 15 minutes while I PH'd the new res water.


I think that these steps will help tp combat what I have had going on thus far... These issues only make me stressed, expecially since my stash has gone dry as of yesterday... Sober tinkering is not my idea of a good time.

I am off to try and find an 1/8 of the dankest shit I can get, as I have a grower buddy coming over this afternoon and I intend to try to convince him of a joint outdoor grow this summer. I wanna see my genetics flourish under the sun!

ANY INPUT is welcome, even if you are telling me what I am doing is horrid and wrong. I am lonely I suppose. =-P

I missed the begining where you said your ph is 6 6.5 it should be in hydro 5.5 to 6.0 your totally off

triniman said:

I missed the begining where you said your ph is 6 6.5 it should be in hydro 5.5 to 6.0 your totally off

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Well, I am using the general hydroponics test kit I bought at my local hydro store (Tis the season to not be greedy and buy a ph meter =( LOL) and when I ph the water, it comes out a very light yellow. It seems to me to be bordering farther towards below 6.0 than above 6.0, but I cannot be certain. All I know is it is ~6 PH.... Not sure of the margain of error involved with this system.

Hopefully 6.5 won't kill plants... I have read that the PH should actually fluctuate between 5.5 and 6.5, so that the plant is able to take up all the different nutrients it needs to thrive... In which-case a constant 6.5 should only lock out certain nutrients... Nitrogen I believe? As my plants are quite dark green and growing quite quickly, I don't think that would be it.

If it is my PH, then there is not much I can do about it... the test says 6.0.. Hopefully time will make things a little clearer.

Update coming!

Worked AM to PM today, but managed to get some pictures this morning before heading out. The plants are looking worse as the days go bye, so I changed to pure PH'd water with just the Epsom Salt for now... No nutrients. I will make a few posts in the morning detailing the changes from the last 48 hours.

I am gonna break this post up into a couple parts, because I have a few different changes made in the last 48 hours. I am beginning to wonder if I should just move my plants to my DWC tote that I have almost done. The Aerogarden setup is giving me a headache... And the plants are suffering from multiple problems. ANYWHO. Here we go.


DAY 14 PM -

I got the Epsom salt and 1/2 strength nutrients into the res, and let it ride, seeing no improvement.


DAY 15 AM - I woke up for work around 9, and seeing that the plants had gotten noticeably worse still, I again flushed the res and put in 1 TBS Epsom salt and nothing else. Looking back, I now think that the amount of Epsom salt was far to much. During the last few days, the plants have been drinking almost nothing compared to before... Like they stopped altogether. Day 15 AM showed signs of water consumption, because the level was down quite a bit.... But the plants were stunted, and the temps had gone up to around 85..



DAY 15 PM - The plants have gotten, again, worse. I decided that in the AM I would again flush, but this time use 1/4 strength nutes, and a teaspoon of Epsom salt as well.

DAY 16 Afternoon - And here we are now, after some more changes. As I said, I changed to 1 teaspoon of Epsom salt instead of a Tablespoon. I also changed to 7ml/gallon nutrient strength, as to start them over on a progressive system. I think that with the right changes, these girls can pull through for sure. It is a shitty delay, but I think with time they will turn around.

I moved everything around in the veg box so I could put the humidifyer right in there with the plants, which also gets some air moving as well. This morning, the box was at exactly 100 degrees, and that can *never* happen again. I removed one of the CFLs, and placed the 2 remaining at a better spot as to cover the entire canopy with light. (From top and sides)

I seem to be running into every problem possible at the moment... Better now than after more time and money invested, I suppose. I am ordering my 150 watt HPS in a day or two, so these girls will only be in the Aerogarden for another week, two at the most no matter what. These 2 weeks will be spent trying to ensure they are ready to handle flowering when the light gets here.

Some pictures from this afternoon. Happy Holidays!