aero vs dwc
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My rundown off my knowledge
supposedly dwc is bigger yield then aero but I can't really see them being any different if anything I believe the aero would be more oxygenated water. Aero is cleaner because roots are constantly being washed basically + be aware that lower amount of water the hotter it gets from the water pump
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Aero is tricky you loose a pump they could die! If there to close to eachother the roots get tangled!
There is a limit to how tall they can get! Spray jet cloging causeing death!Those are cons, now for
the pros, very little medium, fast Growth, can run on a small res!
Dwc well i cant think of any cons lol and the pros, large plants = large yields, less parts to go rong!
But ilove the ebb@flow
There is a limit to how tall they can get! Spray jet cloging causeing death!Those are cons, now for
the pros, very little medium, fast Growth, can run on a small res!
Dwc well i cant think of any cons lol and the pros, large plants = large yields, less parts to go rong!
But ilove the ebb@flow
PetFlora
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I have grown all different ways. My least fav is DWC. It uses too much water/nutes and never develops the quality roots I am looking for. During flower hydro nutes should be changed out every 5-7 days to avoid nute lock up &, plant burn.
My preference is F & D, and I continue to get my HPA rig dialed in. But, I have an idea that I am about to experiment with, based on the benefits of bubble-ponics to super oxygenate the air space between. I usually start my seedlings in my DIY bubbler, which produces awesome roots, then transfer to either my F & D (now using Air Pots) or HPA, which is not for the faint of heart!
My bubble rig is a Rubbermaid Roughneck, whose size is perfect size to start 6 seedlings or clones. I plan to leave a couple plants in it with barely enough nutes to cover the twin stones.
Only now, thinking to get 2 "Y"s and add 2 more stones. This will super oxygenate the air space with bite size nutes (similar to HPA, which atomizes the nutes). Once the roots outgrow the space, I will move plants into a somewhat bigger tote. This will be perfect for small AFs, or a SOG set up.
My preference is F & D, and I continue to get my HPA rig dialed in. But, I have an idea that I am about to experiment with, based on the benefits of bubble-ponics to super oxygenate the air space between. I usually start my seedlings in my DIY bubbler, which produces awesome roots, then transfer to either my F & D (now using Air Pots) or HPA, which is not for the faint of heart!
My bubble rig is a Rubbermaid Roughneck, whose size is perfect size to start 6 seedlings or clones. I plan to leave a couple plants in it with barely enough nutes to cover the twin stones.
Only now, thinking to get 2 "Y"s and add 2 more stones. This will super oxygenate the air space with bite size nutes (similar to HPA, which atomizes the nutes). Once the roots outgrow the space, I will move plants into a somewhat bigger tote. This will be perfect for small AFs, or a SOG set up.
BeaverHuntr
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I have never grow Aero all I know is that in DWC you can veg a monster, they all take the same amount to flower.
ive never done either but im about to switch to aero from ebb n flow. the way i see it dwc is only good for big plants which means veg time. in my opinion if your not worried about plant numbers than veg time is the biggest waste of time cause that time could be used to flower more plants. since you can do a large amount of small plants in aero then no veg time is needed which will equal bigger yields. should be able to do a gram per watt in aero no problem the way i see it and with no veg time who can beat that.
another plus i think would be your less likely to get that weird brown slime everyone complains about in dwc. roots seem like there better off not submerged in water. another plus is you dont need a medium all you need is a neoprene insert really. i never want to deal with those damn hydroton rocks ever again i hate those things! the only minus i can see at this point with aero is a risk of a pump failure
another plus i think would be your less likely to get that weird brown slime everyone complains about in dwc. roots seem like there better off not submerged in water. another plus is you dont need a medium all you need is a neoprene insert really. i never want to deal with those damn hydroton rocks ever again i hate those things! the only minus i can see at this point with aero is a risk of a pump failure
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
The slime is just as bad in aero and dwc as it is in all the systems
And like beaver posted bellow its all about water temps
And like beaver posted bellow its all about water temps
BeaverHuntr
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Brown Slime doesnt exist if you keep your water cool. DWC, cool waters are important. Kind of like if you own a swimming pool, notice in the winter you barely have to shock it or add chlorine, thats because algae and slime cant live in that cold water. Honestly DWC is pretty easy and fool proof if you pat attention to your water temps. Aero sounds good but not as easy.
i dont know call me crazy but a friend of mine did ebb n flow in rockwool for 15 years with no chiller and never experienced this brown slime and now that he switched to dwc he gets the slime every time unless he uses bleach. i dont know what to say guys it doesnt sound like a coincidence to me. im also doing ebb n flow and havent seen this slime. i could be wrong but im just sayin
BeaverHuntr
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Dude Ebb and Flow is entirely different. When I do a flood and drain I never worry about water temps they are fine up to 75 degrees. DWC and Aero are all about Water Temps you can avoid problems, h202 , beneficial bacterias , root rot all that other shit if you just keep the water temps low like myself and Hellrazier say.
bigbillyrocka
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i grow dwc and have never gotten this slime. probably like beaver said, cooler water temps keeps it away? even my buddy has gotten it (and i grow with his stuff) but still i have yet to see any in there. 
BeaverHuntr
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Me either and I grew DWC for like 3 years straight in AZ where we have 115 degree summers, ( I used the coolers to keep my water cool) I have gotten my roots dark brown from Floralicious plus but never the slime. If you do get the slime you can read Heisenbergs thread about the tea he brews to help that. Or if high temps are a problem you can add Great WHite SHark, DWC and Aero are those types of hydroponics that need constant monitoring or a water chiller. One reason I stopped doing DWC is because it was so time consuming, but never ever have I had 1 plant produce 5.5 ounces like my Super Lemon Haze did in DWC.i grow dwc and have never gotten this slime. probably like beaver said, cooler water temps keeps it away? even my buddy has gotten it (and i grow with his stuff) but still i have yet to see any in there.
bigbillyrocka
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ive had one plant (as seen in my first grow thread and also pics in my 2nd grow thread) that had given me almost 12 oz dry. Even my buddy said he could get a constant 10 oz dry. maybe im just lucky. lol
hellraizer just said "The slime is just as bad in aero and dwc as it is in all the systems".
my response was to him not about aero but by your response you disagree with him and agree with me so that was the point i was trying to make. i dont really know how aero compares with the slime i was just guessing cause i know its a serious problem in dwc and chances of getting it cant be greater than in dwc because the roots are totally submerged in water 24/7. i havent had any problems with slime in my ez cloner and thats with no chiller. water temps have been in the 80's but who knows maybe im just lucky. had clones in there over 3 weeks no h202 or bleach
BeaverHuntr
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EZ Cloners are supposed to be ran with water temps in the 80's right? I dont think you are getting you are just using your EZ cloner correctly. I know what you mean though its weird science to me too, because i can clone and put my clone in a rapid rooter plug then into a tray with water.
an ez cloner is aeroponics lol. try runnin that temp in dwc and see what happens, that would probably be root suicide. now you get my point lol
BeaverHuntr
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Thats what I thought its just the pump into the manifold sprayer. Yeah I get your point.
im not saying dwc isnt good but im just saying as far as root problems occurring i think they would more likely occur in dwc than any type of system because the roots are submerged in water all the time. i hear the growth in dwc is outstanding though so i dont wanna sound like a hater but then you have to take into account that you can only do big plants. for the way i grow that doesnt work
BeaverHuntr
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Its just like most hydro grows. It takes more work.
You dont like playing in your grow room daily grow with soil
You dont mind working in your grow room every day grow hydro.