Advice on nutrients

highland jungle king

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can anyone recomend a good nutrient brand to go with.Im using canna was thinking of using dutch master products but was wonderin if anyone knows of a better make or are they just all really the same not to sure the sites just baffle u coz theres too many to choose from went with canna coz its one of the oldest suposedly thanks for any input cheers
 

Earl

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I am using Dutch Master nutes.
They are kind of expensive.
You need to have a TDS meter
and use RO water
to save money on nutes.

I would reccomend general hydroponics three part.
If you are going to use tap water
you should substitute
Hard Water Micro for Floramicro.

So you would need to buy three bottles of nutes
and follow the calculator below.

Check out this link:
Flora Nutrient Weekly Feeding Program - Greentrees Hydroponics
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email468

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I use the G.H. three part (hardwater version) and am pleased with the results so far.
DISCLOSURE: I've never used any other nutrients besides the FloraNova series also from G.H.
 

fallinghigh

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advanced nutes suck balls imho i had better luck with shults and merical grow combo then AN and thay try to sell you a million products so it can get verry expensive. I would go with GH over AN now 3 part, nova, or maxi that is up in the air but add in floricious bloom all through budding and some kool bloom in the final 3 weeks and mabey some liquid karma from botaniccare through out and you are set

:blsmoke:
 

dezinlucy

Active Member
I am; new to growing hydroponically. So far it has not gone to well. Am trying to grow for medicinal purposes. I am unfortunately a cancer patient, but I am two years out, so doing good. Anyway, I need to know what nutrients I should be using. I am presently using General hydrponics, FloraMicro products. I am also using a 400 watt halogen, growing four plants at a time. I am not sure the flora products are the thing to use.

What type of bulb should I use if not the halogen, and what should the wattage be?

Appreciate any help in this matter.

Thanks

David
 

fallinghigh

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as far as nutes i am sure the post right before yours should cover it as for lights 400 watt mh for grow 400-600 watt hps will do the job

make sure ph and ppm levels are ok. If the 3 part is 2 much for you switch to nova or maxi also if you use house water you might need to switch from micro to micro for hard water

hope it helps
 

Brussels

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I have been using two organic Botanicare products in bubblers with great success. I feel that because they are organic products, adverse chemical interactions seldom occure. I use 'Pure Blend Pro Grow' and vegging has been vigorous and absolutely lush. I've used 1/4 oz/gal of water on cuttings for one week, and seedlings for three weeks, under 18/6 lights. I run it up to 1/2 oz/gal through one week after I flip to 12/12. I set pH at 5.3 to 5.6 for solutions changes, as checking in pH in bubblers will only frustrate you.

After one week at 12/12, I go to Botanicare's 'pureblend pro bloom' at 1/2 oz/gal, again running up to 3/4 oz/gal after one week. I remain at this solution for five weeks, give or take a little, just depending on the strain and flowering time. During the last week with Pro Bloom, I also add 1 oz of molasses to the solution and set pH. For the final week for a flush, I use only the molasses and water, going to 1 1/2 oz/gal with molassas. I've had some people scoff at my use of molassas, but i've used it with incredable results on organic outdoor grows, and now with my bubblers. You can see buds swell from day to day...
In the past, I have used other much more expensive solution mixes, with complicated formulas, but have now learned that "simple is good". Botanicare has worked very well for me, with few problems. And no, i dont work for, or sell this stuff. I simply grow very smooth and sweet smokin cannibis...B
 

highland jungle king

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just new to this my self sorry to here about c not to sure about nutrients just now only u should try and stick with the same ones additives ok thou from what i can gather but i would highly recomend the rainforest system or some other kind of aeroponics 4 weeks from veg to flower from cuttings for my first time costs a bit more but well worth it bulbs u can get 3 kinds 1 for flower 1 for veg and 1 for both just google hydroponic bulbs and u should find something hope i was any hepl and good luck
 

email468

Well-Known Member
just new to this my self sorry to here about c not to sure about nutrients just now only u should try and stick with the same ones additives ok thou from what i can gather but i would highly recomend the rainforest system or some other kind of aeroponics 4 weeks from veg to flower from cuttings for my first time costs a bit more but well worth it bulbs u can get 3 kinds 1 for flower 1 for veg and 1 for both just google hydroponic bulbs and u should find something hope i was any hepl and good luck
i use the rainforest - i really like it -- they do seem to grow fast and bushy.
 

Worlock

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advanced nutes suck balls imho i had better luck with shults and merical grow combo then AN and thay try to sell you a million products so it can get verry expensive. I would go with GH over AN now 3 part, nova, or maxi that is up in the air but add in floricious bloom all through budding and some kool bloom in the final 3 weeks and mabey some liquid karma from botaniccare through out and you are set

:blsmoke:
That is the same comclusion , I have been comming to.
Some of Advanced Nutients products did nothing, except cost big bucks.
They offer very little worthwhile information, and make fantastic claims.
If you follow their recipies on the nutreint charts, they want you to buy a lot different products.
Mixing time starts to get ridiculous
Expense is high.
They do have a good general grow , and bloom formula
but their specialty products are a mix of good things and BS
They are based in Canada, and they have an arrogent attitude when contactrd about the products
 

Worlock

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WoW, What a dumb move.
Trying to save a hundred bucks , cost 100 times that.
SWIm was doing an indoor, rockwool, Expensive Dutch seeds , HP sodium 1000 and 400 watt bulbs, a great hydroponic - top feed , 3 times a day, CO2, the works to grow fast.

There are lots of ways to kill plants, Some of us are trying our best to wipe them out.
After a couple of Good Crops, SWIW decided to alter the successfull plan.

Used Cheap, Solid but "Water Soluble" nutrients , Peter's Bloom and Miracle grow bloom. instead of Standard hydroponic solutions.

Every thing was OK for a few weeks, then the plants started stressing heavily. The new leaves and new growth areas began curling and dying.

They were:
Intolerant to heat,
Intolerant to light.
Intolerant to nutrients of any type
Flushing with a clearing solution and/or pH balanced pure water solution, made it worse.

Nothing worked , and a crop of 50 plants were nursed to a slow agonizing death, over a 2-3 month period.
Expensive waste of power, nutrients , rooting media, time , energy and money down the drain.

The plants had the appearence of nutrient overdose, heat stroke, , even a fungus was suspect.

It was all traced down to the fact that the solid fertilizers,
diluted to 1200 ppm or 1.7 EC. Somehow deposited in the roots,

The plants were incapable of maintaining water balance, because the roots were unable to grow. The leaves respire and blow off water, but it was not being replaced.
Either WET or DRY root system made no difference.


THe same Solid Nutrients were used outdoors , in natural soil, and produced healthy crops , many times.
Rockwool, vermiculite , Peat moss, coir, coco husks, nothing worked,
They just kept dying off.
Even after the nutrients were back to normal, after flushing ,, even..

?? The guess is the salts were building up in roots , and formed a somewhat insoluble precipitate , inside the roots.
Stunting, toxic , to the roots.

Before SWIM used the solid nutrients , he sent an e-mail to the Peter's company , asking them how was their products in an indoor hydroponic setup. The Never replied back.!

Stick with the Standard , Hydroponic solutions,
SWIM saved $100 - $200 in nutrient overhead.
But lost 50 beauties, worth far more that a few quarts of Hydroponic concentrate.

SWIM is OK with that , because, he has had experience in the past,
with plant killing methods

REcalling another Moronic moment, prior to the last fiasco.
SWIM started with 30 seeds,
only 10 germinated ?? WTF
7 plants made it past the sprout stage??
3 plants survived past seedling to be harvested.??

That is a 10% success rate
har har, that is shabby

SWIMS method of determining pH, was not very accurate , initially.
What SWIM thought to be pH-5.8, turned out to be closer to a pH-2.5.
That was SWIMS first high tech , hydro, HP sodium lighting. ...
well it was simply a mass murder of helpless plants.
Feed 'em those strong acids, kill em off quick.
 
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