Advice needed pls help

Ok so I need help on making a decision.

Ive decided to top and remove some fan leaves as well as lower branches off one plant and leave the other completely alone.

Both will be vegged for 13 weeks under 330 watt cfl the then flower under 1200 watt hps

Now just wanting to know should I remove lower branches off the untouched plant or leave it untouched till harvest.

This will be my experiment to see if there is any changes in yield.

Adivce appreciated

Taking off fan leaves will def lower your yield. Think of them as food engines for your plant. I would remove the lower branches that will be receiving little to no light.

Canopy management could be quite difficult with a topped plant and a tree both going in the same indoor grow, especially with a 13 week veg. But I like that you are experimenting!

I would remove the bottom branches that are small and not keeping up with the canopy for sure.

My hypothesis is that you will learn that growing trees indoors with 13 weeks of veg is a flawed strategy, even with 1200W. Good luck, have fun!

I only removed a few fan leaveas on top so light can go through to more bid sites.
Wont be taking any more off.

Ok so on my untouched plant ill take lower branches off a week or 2 b 4 flower.

And why whould 13 weeks be flawed interested in your opinion

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King of Jah said:

I only removed a few fan leaveas on top so light can go through to more bid sites.
Wont be taking any more off.

Ok so on my untouched plant ill take lower branches off a week or 2 b 4 flower.

And why whould 13 weeks be flawed interested in your opinion

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Well 13 weeks of vegging on a plant that isn't being topped or trained (a tree) will often times produce a pretty tall lady, add on the stretch and growth you'll get when you flower and you will likely have a good bit of real estate between the top of the plant and the bottom. You can run out headroom indoors pretty easy. More importantly, the difference in light between the top of the plant and the bottom branches will be extreme. The buds will be very light and airy at the bottom while your very top colas might be large and hard. If you're growing pure indicas, I'm probably wrong.

Your best buds indoors usually come from the top two feet of your canopy so managing as much growth into that space becomes the key to good indoor yields.

Hight isnt a issue with me my plan was to grow 2 big trees but I see your point.

So what is the best way of going about this ?

And to add im growing light of jah (sativa dominant)
Dont know if that maes a difference

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With a sativa that I was going to grow as a tree indoors I would plan on flowering no later than 18"-20" height and you may triple that in height by the time they are done. I personally don't see any reason to grow them taller than that.

Or you could top them and do a little LST training to level out the canopy a bit, that would be my approach. Sort of just depends on what you want to learn on this grow I guess. It is all good.

The only reason Im thinking about veging that long is coz im using cfls my plants are staying short, slow growth.
Its been 6 weeks today and id say its aprox 12in tall max.

I have pics on my journal if you want to see the size of them.

Id like them to be a good hight b4 I flower them.

Flower time for my plants are 10-13 weeks thats why I can veg till 13 weeks without effecting my grow cycle.



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LST or scrog will produce higher yield, if that's something you're interested in.

Id preffer to top or just leave alone as I dont have alot of time in my hand so I can only go in there every couple of days

Here some pics.
Which one looks like ther better option for a better yield

Left is normal right is topped


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Look nice and healthy

i would top them if i was you and also no need to use the 1200watt till your in flower i think 600watt will cover them fine and also if you top now and put them under the 600watt they will start to really grow get some height on them babies

There only under 330cfl
In flower ill put them in 1200 watts.

My question is would the topped one give more yield or the normal one.
Thats why im experimenting.

But should I take off all lower branches off the one I haven't topped or just leave it

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King of Jah said:

Id preffer to top or just leave alone as I dont have alot of time in my hand so I can only go in there every couple of days

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I'm no expert KoJ, but from what I've read, every couple of days should be more than frequent enough a visit for LST.

Think of it this way, by topping, you are encouraging the plant to grow a bit like a candelabra or a menorah. If you top and let it grow, the candlesticks (buds) are going to be really close together, and occlude each other from the light.

If you spend 10 minutes putting a few screws into the rim of your pots, then tie the branches on lightly, every couple of days when you go in to water / check on your girls, you just need to slightly tighten the strings, should take you no more than 30 seconds a plant.

That way, you will spread out your bud sites and get maximum wattage to each bud site. Topping and not doing this (or a scrog) seems a bit of a waste of time. It really won't take much time on each visit to do a little LST.

Yeah I see where u are coming from.
My experiment is to see if there is a difference between the 2.
Ive read alot that topping lst wont make a difference in yield and it has to do with genetics amount of light and all that.


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King of Jah said:

Yeah I see where u are coming from.
My experiment is to see if there is a difference between the 2.
Ive read alot that topping lst wont make a difference in yield and it has to do with genetics amount of light and all that.

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I can understand your train of thought, but topping isn't all about increasing yield, it's about increasing the amount of light that gets to the bud sites, which helps in many ways

If you grow a tree, you'll have a larger main cola, but the lower buds will not get enough light and will be tiny and not very potent. Furthermore, you have a lot of (widthways) space that is being flooded with light with no buds in the way.

If you top, you will have more light getting to all bud sites, therefore making the side buds larger. You will also be making more of your available light.

Last year my friend did a grow and hurt his back halfway through. He couldn't top and prune like normal. The result was, that when we helped him harvest, 1/4 of his crop was worthless popcorn bud with very little THC. The poor little flowers hadn't had enough light to turn into strong, potent flowers.

So - by all means do your experiment, but understand what the benefits of topping vs leaving them are, and realise that the untopped one will not be making as much use of your electricity $$$ as your topped one.

Remember, the best thing about indoor growing is that it's NOT natural. In nature a plant doesn't normally have artificial nutrients added. In nature a plant doesn't cry out for sex so much that it produces heavy, resinous buds like one starved of males. The beauty is that *you* decide how the plant grows. You tell it what direction, how much food, how much light. Leaving it to nature will just leave you with a more disappointing crop. Sure, that main cola is gonna be huge, but when you've smoked that you will be sad.

Thank you what you said pretty much answered my question esactly.

Ill stick to topping.

Ill put a pic of my flower room would what ur saying work in that.

But what ur saying sounds good

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A pic would help, but dimensions would be just as good to give an idea of what you're working with.

I also concur with the other advice you've been given - don't veg for a predetermined time. Veg until you have *half* filled your *maximum* grow space, then flip. Plants will double in size in flowering.

My flower area us 1.5m xx 1.5m x 2.4m
2 600s one on each plant

6" inline intake and out take.

My plants are small tho if I flower then now I wont gdt much off theem

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