ADVANCED NUTRIENTS PH Perfect Soil Schedule???

Just picked up the trio Grow, Micro, and Bloom.
The bottles tell me to use 2ml/liter of each through the life of the plant. That can't be very good though. Is there a chart somewhere? I can't find one. I've always used FF and continuously have Calcium issues. Decided to try a new company. So, any tips would be great guys.

Holy crap. I have always used FF too. Guess what I have a touch of right now? A Ca deficiency. I caught it early and have been using CalMag. Twice through the roots and daily folliar. Thats weird. BTW...I am wicked close to you. My state is the king of lobsters and wild blueberries.

It's a common issue. I just keep chasing the cal issue with cal/mag. It's pissing me off!

Use limestone for soil, not calmag.

Calmag provides calcium nitrate. Soil growers want their nitrogen to come from rotted things and calcium to come from lime. Adding nitrates to soil just makes it harder for nitrate producing bacteria to live. It's cheating.

If you want to use calcium nitrate based products, grow with hydro.

Edit: Sorry if I misread this and it's for hydro.

I do run lime, but apparently it's not enough for the FF.
I recently added some to the top of the soil and scratched it in (3tbs per 2 gallon pot).

I also added extra to my premixed soil.

But who runs the AN PH Perfect?

KidneyStoner420 said:

I do run lime, but apparently it's not enough for the FF.
I recently added some to the top of the soil and scratched it in (3tbs per 2 gallon pot).

I also added extra to my premixed soil.

But who runs the AN PH Perfect?

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im running jj ph perfect and i too have ran into a slight cal issue hahaha i was only adding 50 ppm of cal mag is why . but yes no matter what nutes you use if you have clean water you will need to have like 150 ppm of cal mag before you add your npk

How much do you use of the grow bloom and micro?
Is there a chart or schedule somewhere?

For AN Base:
Cuttings and seedlings 1ml/l
Small Plants 2ml/l
Mature Plants 4ml/l

As reflected on the left side of the nutrient calculator.

http://www.advancednutrients.com/hydroponics/calc/

They list a 1-800# on their site. I called and talked with a very knowledgeable man who told me to start them at 1ml/l at week 1, 2ml at week 2 etc and then just stay at 4ml/l through the entire grow.

KidneyStoner420 said:

I do run lime, but apparently it's not enough for the FF.
I recently added some to the top of the soil and scratched it in (3tbs per 2 gallon pot).

I also added extra to my premixed soil.

But who runs the AN PH Perfect?

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Here's the deal. In soil, plants absorb nutrients at certain ph ranges, some ph ranges are more optimal than others. I used ph perfect for a long time before I figured out my cal mag problem. I dumped cal mag in and got problems with salt build up.

What's happening is that the ph perfect system is designed for hydroponic reservoirs to maintain a ph sweet spot of 5.6-5.8. Now that is optimal for hydro, but things work differently in soil. My plants always showed mag deficiency so I'd dump mag in and the get calcium and nitrogen lockout. For soil the optimal range is 6.2-6.8. Really I say 6.5-6.8 because magnesium is locked out once the soil ph drops below 6.5. So the ph perfect is putting your soil at a ph of 5.6 and your plants are being locked out of magnesium and calcium which then decreases the uptake of nitrogen and photosynthesis. Their ph perfect line has tons of ph buffers that fight to keep ph in that range.

Advanced is an amazing company and claim ph perfect is for soil but it really is not. Yes after you hit flower things will look nice but that's because your medium has used all its nutes and is dead and has because a hydroponic medium like coco to absorb fast absorbing nutrients. I love advanced and am really hoping they come with a none ph perfect system again. I've went back to the old connoseuir none ph perfect and iguana and have had instant change in my veg and flower.

Check your soil ph. Blue lab sells a handheld soil pen that is badass. 6.5-6.8. You may have to keep it 6.8 till it jumps up to 6.5. Also remember it takes two days to see a change

Smellystankfunk said:

Advanced is an amazing company

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You - ...................... Big Mike -

Thats a chart from their catalogue, excuse the writing. I wouldnt recommend using full strength though, half strength with additives will ec at around 1.8-2.0, ph around 6.9, from a ph 7.2 water source, so ph down will be needed.. Unless your source water is a lower ph..

KidneyStoner420 said:

Just picked up the trio Grow, Micro, and Bloom.
The bottles tell me to use 2ml/liter of each through the life of the plant. That can't be very good though. Is there a chart somewhere? I can't find one. I've always used FF and continuously have Calcium issues. Decided to try a new company. So, any tips would be great guys.

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I just pick those up as well do you know if they can all be mixed into the same gallon of water