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fanofpanic

fanofpanic

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really this is the first time i've heard of einstein oil...given the name it must be super intelligent, but from what I gather and have read it's the more pure form of neem oil...cold pressed, blah, blah, blah...
let me think in forms of olive oil...first press cold press is extra virgin (einstein oil), which is used for gourmet cooking...virgin or regular olive oil (neem oil) is used in general cooking...the price difference? about 3 or 4 dollars a half liter...as far as chemicals being used to extract the oil i think you can pretty much believe noone.
i prefer the cheaper version for pest control...just like general cooking...same taste, quality but maybe not the highest standards...I guess it depends on what you're trying to accomplish...but in any event don't get sucked into the hype...sooner or later, we'll have the einstein oil vendors knocking at our doors.
 
Jeffdogg

Jeffdogg

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I tend to post things that are not related to AF's I know, but its good info. Heres a link its not really about growing just a message from IMO one of the greater breeders of our time Subcool of TGA subcool seeds. Very cool guy, he is everything a breeder should be.

He also has a "semi hidden" forum on here in the organics section :)

https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=vP8SCvOxVyc#!

I dont believe he does many AF's (if any) but if anyone isnt sure which breeder to go to for a photo strain TGA subcool seeds are top notch!
 
technical dan

technical dan

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I have not tried spraying or misting the leaves so you could be right about it not causing problems. I have only used it to fight and prevent fungus gnats who IME didnt really hang out of the plant a whole lot.
and yes true hermies are due to genetics I was thinking more along the lines of stressing some nanners onto a female rather than a plant that readily expresses both sexes.
 
EZmooover

EZmooover

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Why is there never any discussion on a dominant (or multiple dominants) ruderalis strain?

Is it just "ruderalis"?

Are there any studies done on specific ruderalis strains???

There's a zillion indica and sativa strains/hybrids, but nothing on ruderalis except that we all accept that a ruderalis genetics can force a transfer of photo, biannual growing into finite time, annual growing.

Is there an auto, ruderalis strain/parent that is better at locking in a timeline and also securing photo attributes than another ruderalis strain?

Why are indicas and sativas viewed as being so diverse in breeding and cross breeding, but ruderalis is just all the same ruderalis? Are they all exactly the same??????
 
Jeffdogg

Jeffdogg

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Rud's contain very little THC but does have the auto flower power. Thats why it needs to be combined with a sativa or indica

Autoflowring cannabis is the third and smallest specie of the cannabis genus, which includes cannabis Sativa and cannabis Indica, this third specie is also called cannabis ruderalis / autoflower / auto cannabis / automatic cannabis.

So what is autoflowering cannabis? It means that this variety of cannabis will automatically flower under almost any light, that means that autoflowering cannabis plants don’t need the 12/12 light cycle to start producing flowers and they can grow under 24 hours of light from seed to harvest.

The Ruderalis plant is a wild variety of the cannabis Sativa and it is small bushy plant that has adapted to automatically flower and reach full maturity anywhere from 8 to 11 weeks in harsh climates and conditions. The first autoflowering cannabis plants were found in the former Soviet Union and they were some left over hemp plants that had adapted to the harsh region. Now we can see ruderalis plants all over the world and these strong plants are well adapted to the diseases and insects that surround them and they do everything to flower as soon as possible and produce flowers and seeds faster than any Sativa or Indica plant can.cannabis sativa, indica and ruderalis

Although the wild ruderalis cannabis plants contains little or non THC (tetrahydrocannabinol) breeders from all over the world have produced some amazing autoflower strains by crossbreeding these wild ruderalis strains with some of the best commercial cannabis strains and now the market is flooded with new and exciting autoflowering seeds that start the life on autoflower plants that can be ready to harvest in 60 days from seed, stays between 50 and 100 cm and contain 20 to 30 % THC.
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EZmooover

EZmooover

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Doesn't really answer any of my questions. I understand how ruderalis... the species... functions. I was basically asking if any dominant ruderalis... strains... have been isolated.

In other words... identifying a specific ruderalis strain that absolutely locks in a specific timeline and/or does best to retain the qualities of the indica/sativa genetics.
 
RevolutionaryMiMi

RevolutionaryMiMi

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Fenian Brotherhood said:
Awesome :cool:


I'll start.


Never Transplant!!! Start off in the harvesting pot 3Gallon+

You Could!! Cut off the bottom to a party cup, an when the roots come out the bottom just put the Cup in the bigger Pot.
20/4 hours is the best(Depending on Strain) If you really want to Find out what is best, Start with 24/7 then the next batch, use 20/4 and see how that goes...


I have alot more, I'll be back later :smoke:
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awww man, i started my seeds in some small 3 inch pots thought i could transplant before they took up all the soil... :(
 
Jeffdogg

Jeffdogg

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RevolutionaryMiMi said:
awww man, i started my seeds in some small 3 inch pots thought i could transplant before they took up all the soil... :(
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How far along are ya bud? Got a few auto's now trying em out doing different things. The one i did transplant was the best looking plant so i put it in a bigger pot just for kicks, when i repotted i did NOT cut any roots cause that would just really shock the girl. The next day she grew even more then the day before and i lst'd her, the day after had to pin her down again cause she kept growing. I believe if you do it early enough and dont cut the roots and be gentle you will be ok. If anything repot now bud get it over with.. Sooner the better, unless they are flowering then ehh this one might be a wash for ya.
 
technical dan

technical dan

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yep you can get away with a clean transplant at or before 2 weeks old and the plant should be fine. But that is for a clean transplant, if you significantly damage the rhizome/ roots it will limit the plant's development.
 
Brotherdoses

Brotherdoses

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Just wanted to share a idea to get around not transplanting autos. My girl friend and I grew a auto this vegg cycle with some other plants and to avoid transplanting it we started the seed in a strawberry basket. When it came time to transplant we just planted the plant and basket together in a smart pot. Next time I will just start in a 2 or 3 gallon but if your in a squeeze for space this may do the trick. It did for us.


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Jeffdogg

Jeffdogg

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For the bum bum's that keep saying i never grew nothing, this came from one of my last grow's before i had to stop for a while. Its just my flower room nothing special, honestly i thought i lost these when my other hard drive pooped out. Thank god for being bored on a sunday and going through your puter!!













Hope this helps the nay-sayers that want me to produce pics but they themselves cant do the same.
 
fanofpanic

fanofpanic

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Just to add something about neem oil...neem is a preventative measure. Generally, you should use neem when you have a threat but not a full blown invasion. Neem oil acts as an inhibitor in the sense that it stops the insects' reproductive cycle, thus causing them to eat less and not breed anymore. It does not kill the insect per se, just stops the insect from breeding and then also from eating since they have, at this point, nothing to live for. So, if you see a little problem beginning to develop, then get a little neem oil, some organic, non-scented dish soap, water and a spray bottle. Mix it up ( i use a drop of dish soap, 1 teaspoon of neem and 1 liter of water), spray it on and wait. Sometimes, the problem is deeper that you think, like in the soil and not just on the surface. If this is the case, I guess you'll have to go the insecticide route (i did on my first grow). The neem also works well when used from the beginning of the grow. Obviously, not when the little girl is one inch tall, but once a couple of nodes have started. It really stops a lot of aphids, spider mites and gnats. But be warned, it doesn't exactly smell like roses...more like a 12 hour train ride in India. :shock:
 
tekdc911

tekdc911

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everyone else was posting baby pics :D
 
Jeffdogg

Jeffdogg

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Tip of the day:

Enjoy life (watch at least the first 5 minutes.)

[video=youtube;i9mkV31wQEQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9mkV31wQEQ[/video]

Cant get much better then that..
 
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70sdiver

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Taviddude said:
Don't run 12/12.

BLAZE the with as much light as possible for at least 18 hours a day.
Personally I say stay away from CFL unless you plant to really BLAZE them with a TON of watts and train your plants well.
Watts are watts and you may as well be using a 400 watt HPS if you're using 400 watts of Fluorescent.
HPS will penetrate far better, give you heavy dense rock hard colas. No matter what you do with CFL you are going to get a lot fluffy bud.
Much of the Auto's prowess is in the fact that it can flower under 24/0 of light without reverting to veg.
There are sativa dominant auto's that are finishing in 90 days from seed with bumper crops.
Not possible with photo's.

Blaze Them.
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There some great sativa dominant auto strains that can finish in 60 days.I'm not so sure you can't get just as hard a nuggs from floro's as hps especially when your looking at 400 watt hps.I can get some serious hard nuggs and yields from 462 watt t-5 ho's,probably better than 95 percent of my 400 watt hps grows.I'd even venture to say that my 600 watt hps can only do as good as my t-5's.
 
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