ryikk
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Nice lights. What did you go with for what size tent?
Nice lights. What did you go with for what size tent?
Thegermling
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4x4. Its basically the HLG 550 v2. I got the boards from atreum lighting for way cheaper (78 dollars)they use the lm301b diodes. I even used HLG's 26x20 dimensions for the aluminum angle frame.
rob333
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now if u spent your coin on a hps you would not be having this issue and u would have 1 light
Merlin1147
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Thanks ryikk. Definitely going to test drive the sensor push.
Aloha Haze
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Aloha Haze
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Just a little canopy for ya.
I don't see why you need to throw out the Vipars and make the complete switch to QBs at once. Why don't you think about just dipping your feet in the HLG world and supplementing what you've got? You'll also get a chance to compare the lights if you see one side of the tent growing much better than the other. I'd think about shifting the Vipars to one side and adding 2 QB288s, 2 QB96 elites, or 4 QB132s. Much smaller investment and you can add on later. I think you can do any of those setups for about $250 max.
MidWestMayhem
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If you got higher tier lights it would boost your output by more than 10% that i can guarantee - if they are using the same 'true' wattage. Like 1000 watt of viper vs an HLG 550 for example. HLG 550 would easily destroy 10% more yield of that I am nearly 100% certain. They will pay for themselves and your plants will love you too. Vipar do work just are terrible quality. (Used both in case your wondering
))))) ). Quality of your weed will improve too under top quality lights.
But you can definitely still grow fine herb with vipar but these new LEDs are just game changers imo. Will never go back I tell you!
Juiceifer
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Something like this is what I'd suggest also
Couch_Lock
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Don't toss your lights, thats just wasteful. Just add a single 315 CMH to your tent, dead center. Spread the Viva's to the edges of your tent. Cheapest way to get better buds and more of them.
Couch_Lock
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Timbers are quality, I'd agree. But QB's are overpriced for what they are.
And now I will get many haters, lots here just follow the crowd. Do your own research and lots of it is my suggestion.
And now I will get many haters, lots here just follow the crowd. Do your own research and lots of it is my suggestion.
ryikk
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So this is where I ended up on my very first grow. The extra thick canopy was a product of vacation right at the wrong time and ended up with over grown veg I couldn’t get under the net. Live and learn. As you can see I had to supplement in the far edges as the buds were not developing. I’m still researching lights (work has been crazy so that has been slow going). If I had the budget I found a few really nice ones I would like but they are a bit out of reach ($1,300+). Just harvested so cleaning the setup and my next round is already cloned. Can’t wait to apply what I learned to the next grow. Right now I’m looking for a solid performer for the 4x4 tent. Trying to stay around $700 give or take. Any recommendations that fit those 2 requirements would be greatly appreciated.
If you got higher tier lights it would boost your output by more than 10% that i can guarantee - if they are using the same 'true' wattage. Like 1000 watt of viper vs an HLG 550 for example. HLG 550 would easily destroy 10% more yield of that I am nearly 100% certain. They will pay for themselves and your plants will love you too. Vipar do work just are terrible quality. (Used both in case your wondering
Quality of your weed will improve too under top quality lights.
But you can definitely still grow fine herb with vipar but these new LEDs are just game changers imo. Will never go back I tell you!
So this is where I ended up on my very first grow. The extra thick canopy was a product of vacation right at the wrong time and ended up with over grown veg I couldn’t get under the net. Live and learn. As you can see I had to supplement in the far edges as the buds were not developing. I’m still researching lights (work has been crazy so that has been slow going). If I had the budget I found a few really nice ones I would like but they are a bit out of reach ($1,300+). Just harvested so cleaning the setup and my next round is already cloned. Can’t wait to apply what I learned to the next grow. Right now I’m looking for a solid performer for the 4x4 tent. Trying to stay around $700 give or take. Any recommendations that fit those 2 requirements would be greatly appreciated.
Jay7t5
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I just bought a similar device from AliExpress for a 3rd of the price called xaiomi mijia thermograph £8-12, it's Bluetooth, you download an app and you get a graph similar to yours and if you buy the pro version it will send you notifications if gets to hunid too cold or hot etc.
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Couch_Lock
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Not sure what "pre assembled" means at HLG. If it means its built and tested BOTH hlg has some good deals. Their lights are quality, also like Timber.
ryikk
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I’ll have to check out timber, never heard of them. Got a link to anything specific?
Couch_Lock
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coreywebster
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You could also use 2x HLG260w v2 or v1 if you want to save a few quid. I used two over half my 8x4 (v1) Its plenty of light and I don't mean its just enough, they almost keep up with my cob light I built which was 720+ watts over other half of my flower tent.
The HLG600 I assume your looking at growers lights, its a solid light with a bit more output than the HLG550 for less money.
Difference is mainly in the 3 year warranty you get with the 550 vs 1 year with the 600.
I think the 600 is as good a value as you can get from their lights.
Timber are lovely COB lights too.
Like others have said, no need to go for broke, you can always add one light to your existing set up and add another down the road in a few crops time. Or HPS , cmh.
It doesn't matter what you add, if you increase wattage your going to increase heat and you will have to deal with that one way or another.
I really do think 2x 320w xl is a bit overkill for 4x4 but that's just me.
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