About electricity

Flyovertheplane said:

Hi guys,Im gonna finish my first grow and wanna turn some money into a better ops ! Ok,here is my situation,I purchased for a high-usage consumption (3 phase electric power) because 1 phase is used for my house requirement (several ac,lamps,pumps) and it will become a trouble if use 1 phase to grow here (i don't use any power source of 1 phase for growing)

I also know an amatuer electrician can help me wiring and set up the ops but he could only do everything without calculating the numbers ( i means he can't calculate amps,volt..etc. For safety case) so my question is :
-The power comp set the breaker at 80amps,i wanna run 8 1k hps (i run sog/hydro),two 36000btu ac for cooling.One 600hps for mothers and one 14000btu.Will my set up be fine ?
P/s : two 36k btu will run on 3 phase power.The rest runs on 1 phase (8k,600hps,14k btu) but the power source also comes from 3 phase breaker ! Please help me out !!! Thanks for reading n have a gud day

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Flyovertheplane said:

I also know an amatuer electrician can help me wiring and set up the ops but he could only do everything without calculating the numbers ( i means he can't calculate amps,volt..etc. For safety case)

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Flagg420 said:

Is this the international (in other words more advanced version) Of us US fools dropping a 240 line into the grow room on a subpanel and a couple of its own breakers etc.

Whats the actual benefit/goal in this? Simply for discretion purposes, or is this a cost/energy saving thing?

Im intrigued but the more research I attempt the deeper I fall, lol. Seems almost as tho a phase 3 power system would actually allow for 120/240 on the same system? I dunno, I been puff-browsing and I've gone n gotten so high its time to go to work and I haven't educated myself at all! Merely added to the questions, lol.

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Djreed57 said:

thank you in advance for reply was only an electrician for one year haha. I assume I am okay since nothing has tripped for couple years but just want to make sure. I have a 20 amp circuit that I run (2) 1000 watt hps lights a 6" exhaust blower and a 16" oscillating fan on. I KNOW this is cutting it close to 20 amps am I safe or could this start a fire one day? I tried running an extension cord from another circuit to take the load of one of the lights but the cord and the timer burnt and melted together, was hard to get them apart so that made me nervous. Was this just because the timer shouldn't be on an extension cord (12 gauge). Thank you -Dan

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Djreed57 said:

thank you in advance for reply was only an electrician for one year haha. I assume I am okay since nothing has tripped for couple years but just want to make sure. I have a 20 amp circuit that I run (2) 1000 watt hps lights a 6" exhaust blower and a 16" oscillating fan on. I KNOW this is cutting it close to 20 amps am I safe or could this start a fire one day? I tried running an extension cord from another circuit to take the load of one of the lights but the cord and the timer burnt and melted together, was hard to get them apart so that made me nervous. Was this just because the timer shouldn't be on an extension cord (12 gauge). Thank you -Dan

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miccyj said:

So let me get this right, you have someone wiring your house for 3 phase power but cant do simple amperage calculations? are you upgrading wiring? what voltage (this is pretty important)? sounds like a fire waiting to happen tbh. There is no such thing as an amateur electrician. I have a degree in electrical engineering and I'm still not an electrician, amateur or otherwise.

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SnapsProvolone said:

Is the OP in the UK? British Standard?

80 amp 3 phase residential is definitely not seen in North America.

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Flagg420 said:

Is this the international (in other words more advanced version) Of us US fools dropping a 240 line into the grow room on a subpanel and a couple of its own breakers etc.

Whats the actual benefit/goal in this? Simply for discretion purposes, or is this a cost/energy saving thing?

Im intrigued but the more research I attempt the deeper I fall, lol. Seems almost as tho a phase 3 power system would actually allow for 120/240 on the same system? I dunno, I been puff-browsing and I've gone n gotten so high its time to go to work and I haven't educated myself at all! Merely added to the questions, lol.

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miccyj said:

3 phase actually allows for 3x high amperage 240V circuits.

To give you an idea, here is a 3 phase distribution board I designed (and had an electrician build).

So it accepts a a 415V into a 180amp breaker. this breaks it into 3x 240V 60amp RCD breakers which then breaks is down further into 6 x 240V 10amp circuit breakers, so from one 3phase input, I have 18 x 240V 10amp sockets + 2 x 415V 50amp sockets + can be daisy chained to another distribution board and done all over again as long as infrastructure can supply the power safely. I designed it for a company I worked for which sold it to me when they closed up shop. It now runs my grow room, haha. (FYI, I had a professional electrician install it for me, haha)

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Flyovertheplane said:

Actually,I spent money on the last two grows (reggie strain) with gud result and no problem due to his skill,no melting no firing and some hardcore breakers (i do overkill on wiring setup,use the big cord for my ops for 3000w and 45000btu on a thermostat for enviroment control) but I realized gud genetic can bring more money,call me a greedy guy if u want ^.^ !
Im living in an asian city so many people here can fix house,fix electricity,fix water issues without a degree of their job but this time I wanna figure out for a safety against fire op !
There is two options for your choice :
-1 phase contract (220v) : only use for living activities,such as u buy a house there,live with your family or friends,use serveral ac units,cfl lights,washing machine... etc.High bill is a way to get trouble if u use over 2500kw/month due to my house.NOT USE FOR ECONOMIC ACTIVITES
-3 phase contract (380v) : this choice is for economic activites (use lots of electricity) like restaurants,factory but the price is higher and you have to use 3 phase required machines ! But my amatuer electrician master did a modify on the breaker to use 220v for whole system (NOT STEALING POWER) and he told me this is very gud,no trouble !

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miccyj said:

This still sounds so dodgy, but hey, your house man. What he's probably done is just separated one of the 3 phases off the main breaker to give you and additional 220V circuit. For what you want, ask if he can install a 50A RCD off the 3 phase breaker, this will give you 5 x 10A connections that he can then wire into new or existing sockets.

8k of lights is over 36A in 220V, you cannot run that over a single 220V circuit, it needs to be split.

Your power consumption is going to be ridiculously high running that much gear, a shit load more than a normal house, no one will ask why you're using enough power to run a small factory? Lol

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miccyj said:

Haha, ok man, stay safe, just keep in mind that 8k of lights at 12/12 for 30days is like 2800+kWh.

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Flyovertheplane said:

Fly under the radar I always have a reason for high usage consumtion,how abt u bro ? How many watts are u running and what method ?

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miccyj said:

I'm running 6k atm but I have run upto 12k in the same location, but i'm in a 5500sqm industrial complex that I own, so no one is going to bat an eyelid at my power usage, even if I was using 100K.

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