Abolish private healthcare insurance

Budley Doright

Budley Doright

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Fogdog said:
LOL

Same here.

I'm a pounder, not a splicer. Some work I can't risk turning out badly. The oven cut-out for my kitchen cabinet doesn't fit modern-day conventional ovens and the old one (early '70's) recently died. For detail work like that, I have no problem turning the job over somebody with more skills than I have.

Nice job on your dock, btw. That kind of thing you can screw up a little and nobody will notice. If the new shelf isn't straight or the finish doesn't match in my kitchen cabinet, it would bug me and I'd probably end up spending more on re-mediating the damage than I will doing it this way.

Also, I need time to spend on my boat:

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Raptor 16 sailing kayak
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That’s really cool, I’m looking for an older hobie18 but their hard to come by. Yes the dock turned out nice, it’s level lol. I’m really proud of the porch I finished this summer C1E3CAFF-60F6-41CB-9578-AA5F4A516975.jpeg
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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PJ Diaz said:
Lol, so is it in the first post, the third post or the sixth. I must admit that no, I don't read all of the drivel Buck types while drool dribbles down his chin. I wonder how he has time to post so much if he's supposedly building houses all day. Watching Buck sling insults is very much like watching Trump yell "fake news". Call others what you are. Got it.
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Translation: "looky this unimportant detail that has nothing to do with my stupid replies. I win".

derp
 
ChiefRunningPhist

ChiefRunningPhist

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PJ Diaz said:
IRS wouldn't agree with you. Having your own tools is only one criteria for being an independent contractor. Is someone else telling you when to show up for work? If so, you are an employee. There are many other criteria as well. It's not so cut and dry as you may think.
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Contractors get told what to do too. I'd argue it's considered a b2b transaction, working multiple sites, providing own tools, not receiving pension or benefits, negotiating pay, possibly working under a dba, ect...

What was the job you were hiring 1099s for that the IRS said no dice?
 
PJ Diaz

PJ Diaz

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ChiefRunningPhist said:
Contractors get told what to do too. I'd argue it's considered a b2b transaction, working multiple sites, providing own tools, not receiving pension or benefits, negotiating pay, possibly working under a dba, ect...

What was the job you were hiring 1099s for that the IRS said no dice?
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Contractors bid on a job, some specifics which may be inherent in the contract that they negotiate, but outside of that they don't get told how to do the job they've won the bid for.

In that case you're asking about we were hiring various types of stagehands, from scenic carpenters who brought their own tools, to "freelance" audio engineers. The problem is that these workers were given specific tasks, assignments, and working hours they were required to comply with. Therefore the IRS deemed they should have been employees. I don't know if the company ever got fined for it, as it was actually a governmental entity, and that part of the bureaucracy was outside of my pay class.
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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No one tells me when to turn up. I tell them.

I dont "bid" on jobs either. If i want the job, often i dont, i supply a quote. If its accepted i then tell them when i can do it.
Some jobs are just "can u do this?. and they get the bill when its done.
Not sure why its so complicated.
 
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UncleBuck

UncleBuck

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PJ Diaz said:
Contractors bid on a job, some specifics which may be inherent in the contract that they negotiate, but outside of that they don't get told how to do the job they've won the bid for.

In that case you're asking about we were hiring various types of stagehands, from scenic carpenters who brought their own tools, to "freelance" audio engineers. The problem is that these workers were given specific tasks, assignments, and working hours they were required to comply with. Therefore the IRS deemed they should have been employees. I don't know if the company ever got fined for it, as it was actually a governmental entity, and that part of the bureaucracy was outside of my pay class.
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Are you still trying?

you got caught knowing absolutely nothing about how work works. trying to lie and flail your way out of it is just ugly at this point

stop embarrassing yourself
 
Lucky Luke

Lucky Luke

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UncleBuck said:
I think you wandered into the wrong thread. I’m embarrassing you in the ‘warren/sanders’ thread

this thread is for pj to get embarrassed
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Im surprised that PJ doesnt know how sole traders work and thinks that people who choose to work this way are somehow not as good or successful as those that are employees or have employees.
 
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mooray

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Any of us that have done manual things for a living have had to pull stuff out. Post that in a framers forum and see what they say about ol' UncleMary over there.
 
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mooray

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I don't take pics of my owies, nor post pics on the interwebs. It's a hair on the narcissistic side.
 
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