A tax analogy, who's really paying their fair share?

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Ya, but your reason for not being selfish, was so that your family as a whole would bring home more money. LOL!!

How humanitarian.
the wife and i keep our finances separate, so i don't see the extra money.

you keep trying to make me out to be this selfish monster, but i don't think you'd press that narrative if you came over to my house and met me.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
the wife and i keep our finances separate, so i don't see the extra money.

you keep trying to make me out to be this selfish monster, but i don't think you'd press that narrative if you came over to my house and met me.
Sorry, I don't think that at all, really.
We just see things differently.

I was trying to say that by giving up your $140, you didn't help society.

You helped your wife........the woman you love and plan to spend the rest of your life with.
There's a big difference.
 

beenthere

New Member
"Spending is the problem not revenue." -
too bad your President and all the liberals can;t seem to understand this simple concept....
It all boils down to jealousy, we could tax the rich ten times more, it won't change the lazy liberals lives.
They're obsessed with other people's money, and they're bottom feeders for a reason.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
It all boils down to jealousy, we could tax the rich ten times more, it won't change the lazy liberals lives.
They're obsessed with other people's money, and they're bottom feeders for a reason.
the real problem i see is yellow sugar leaf.
 

Canna Sylvan

Well-Known Member
the wife and i keep our finances separate, so i don't see the extra money.

you keep trying to make me out to be this selfish monster, but i don't think you'd press that narrative if you came over to my house and met me.
Please Buck, Jesus boy has a point. But I do the same as you. The difference, I don't try and justify it. Some selfishness and greed is good. It only becomes bad when you take from others. Also when it comes to the point you get joy having what others don't and make them miserable.

Until then, who cares. Everyone wants as much as possible. I don't even care if it's you.

Btw, one word, "Amazon." Then no income tax, no big deal. What only sucks is property taxes end up higher.

If it wasn't for our warmongering blood lust, there wouldn't be any income tax. Lincoln is the reason, and since you love income tax so much, you and the Democrats can change his title to Republican for all I care.
 

kelly4

Well-Known Member
Please Buck, Jesus boy has a point. But I do the same as you. The difference, I don't try and justify it. Some selfishness and greed is good. It only becomes bad when you take from others. Also when it comes to the point you get joy having what others don't and make them miserable.

Until then, who cares. Everyone wants as much as possible. I don't even care if it's you.

Btw, one word, "Amazon." Then no income tax, no big deal. What only sucks is property taxes end up higher.

If it wasn't for our warmongering blood lust, there wouldn't be any income tax. Lincoln is the reason, and since you love income tax so much, you and the Democrats can change his title to Republican for all I care.
Jesus MAN.:fire:
 

MuyLocoNC

Well-Known Member
if that's what you got out of my reply, condolences on your sub 70 IQ and partisan hackish nature.

my example involving the idiocy of a flat tax was to illustrate how the little guy is hurt more by the policy, not a parable calling for the rich to have a tax burden so high that it hurts.

your butt is so hurt, good chap, that you must resort to all manner of fairy tale and deceit in order to justify yourself. again, condolences.
Not a fairy tale at all, you just confirmed exactly what I said. There is nothing idiotic about a flat tax rate, progressive tax systems are heinous and without merit. You make more so you not only have to pay more, you have to pay a higher percentage of your earnings because paying more just isn't enough.

Not to mention most flat tax systems I've seen almost always include a cost of living allowance around 18-24k, so the poorest of the citizens pay nothing and the middle class only pay the percentage on about half of their income. The rich still end up paying far more and the percentage they pay is based on a far higher percentage of their income. Plus, you take out all the loopholes that allow the rich to pay lower percentages than their secretaries.

But, then you wouldn't need the IRS and staggering costs that it takes to run it. Citizens wouldn't have to pay for tax software or accountants, saving them even more. April 15th would just be another day of the year. And it's been shown that it would increase the revenue to the government. Gosh, it just sounds horrible, doesn't it?
 

beenthere

New Member
your butt is so hurt, good chap, that you must resort to all manner of fairy tale and deceit in order to justify yourself. again, condolences.
Speaking of fairy tales and deceit, when are you going to cough up that proof that you paid 25% federal income taxes on that $30k ?
 

InCognition

Active Member
I could just see Bucky being part of the group paying nothing. Then they beat his ass once they find out he gets fancy dinners with his wife's parents too. Socialism is a bitch. People will complain even when it's fair.
That's the thing, socialism isn't far and never will be. Pro-socialists can attempt to justify their ignorance from any angle, and it always comes back to being the opposite of "fair".

They fail to realize that life is not fair, hence they do nothing more than attempt justify their own ignorance. It's somewhat like a cult mentality... delusional, but justified in their own minds.

And while one has a right to practice cultism, they don't have the right in forcing others to join, for their own potential benefit.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
That's the thing, socialism isn't far and never will be. Pro-socialists can attempt to justify their ignorance from any angle, and it always comes back to being the opposite of "fair".

They fail to realize that life is not fair, hence they do nothing more than attempt justify their own ignorance. It's somewhat like a cult mentality... delusional, but justified in their own minds.

And while one has a right to practice cultism, they don't have the right in forcing others to join, for their own potential benefit.
the ronbot should not be talking about cults and cult mentality.
 
not at all.

some guy who busts his hump for $25k a year has to pay 25% of his income, making him choose between getting his car fixed or stashing a little away for his kid's college.

some other guy busts his hump for $20 million a year has to pay 25% of his income, making him choose between nothing whatsoever.

the tax code is necessarily complicated, but a lot of it favors someone like the guy making 20 million so that he can pay half of what the guy making $25 does.

even a fair tax comes closer, but is still not as progressive a tax as is needed to prevent a plutocracy.
One would argue taht in order to avoid these type of arguments, you get rid of the income tax. And nobody pays nothing.

Or a very low flat tax, i.e. 5%. And to accomodate that low flat tax, you make the neccessary cuts (Austerity FTW) without any emotional arguments for it or against it.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
not at all.

some guy who busts his hump for $25k a year has to pay 25% of his income, making him choose between getting his car fixed or stashing a little away for his kid's college.

some other guy busts his hump for $20 million a year has to pay 25% of his income, making him choose between nothing whatsoever.

the tax code is necessarily complicated, but a lot of it favors someone like the guy making 20 million so that he can pay half of what the guy making $25 does.

even a fair tax comes closer, but is still not as progressive a tax as is needed to prevent a plutocracy.
How else are we gonna support crony capitalism?
 
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