A Medicinal Refrigerator

Danielsgb

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Here's the 134 CFM fan's I put into my Main Chamber trying to cool it down. Duct Tape and Foil Tape worked once again. I also added another 4" hole for passive intake. Tomorrow I'll see how it's temps go.
Daniels:weed:
Temps ran too high so I added another one of the same fans for intake. Holding under 86 so far at 50min. Here's the old, it removed and the new intake installed.HPS Flowering Intake 028.jpgNew Intake before.jpgNew Intake After.jpg
Daniels:blsmoke:
 

Danielsgb

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I made a new Grow journal in my sig link for the next round in the dual 150W HPS. Take a look all.
Daniels
 

chainseeker

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Hows it going?
I'm thinking about hanging around a little maybe even posting some of my current projects.
IDK yet for sure.
I miss a lot of the cool growers I met hear.
 

Danielsgb

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Hows it going?
I'm thinking about hanging around a little maybe even posting some of my current projects.
IDK yet for sure.
I miss a lot of the cool growers I met here.
Yea I still switch back and forth, but there are some cool growers in both, for sure. Looking a bit Fluffy 'round here the last couple days.:hump::dunce::fire:
 

Danielsgb

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Last night I got started working on the FrigiDare. I got the compressor out, and the inner guts. Now I can get started planning.
I have a story to tell about yesterday. I went to hang out with the Caregiver my sister has been dating. I saw his grow a few weeks ago, and think I got spider mites while I was there. Dealt with the S.M. This time after returning I changed cloths and showered when I got back, just in case.
But the story is more of how his grow looks. VERY Un-impressed. He had a bunch to transplant to his flowering room. He puts 2 in a plastic bucket. Like to store shit, rec. shape for 1 1/2 bags Glacier Gold (local MT potting soil). He has 4 nickel size holes in the bottom and 1 in the bottom side. Plants looked very sad and unhappy. The mites made him remove a lot of growth. If I was a Caregiver, I would be ashamed for patients to see that. Random dirt all over, no organization but this guy is expanding to something like 80 to 100 HID in a warehouse. He grows his untopped to somewhere around 18" then Fimm's all the tops. His in the flowering chamber a couple to three weeks into 12/12 were way Pale. I've smoked his and it was good. I just see how much I could do. He had some nice plants 4 to 5 days away. Looked pretty good, but tons of shriveled fan leaves. He spends way to much time dealing with his 50 clients, and NO where near enough in that garden. He just has a different view about things than me to some point, but I'll get a camera next time to "get a pic of his Blueberry" and I'll get some to share with you guys. He has a Apple Jack that has a great smell. The Hippie Gardener got there and saw all the Veg plants to transplant and had QUITE the look on her face.
Daniels

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gumball

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U almost have enough space to do 2 levels in that thing! What light you thinking for this one? If u do 2, I think HPS and CMH, 150 each. Your gonna need some penetration to get the whole thing fo sure
 

HowzerMD

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Last night I got started working on the FrigiDare. I got the compressor out, and the inner guts. Now I can get started planning.
I have a story to tell about yesterday. I went to hang out with the Caregiver my sister has been dating. I saw his grow a few weeks ago, and think I got spider mites while I was there. Dealt with the S.M. This time after returning I changed cloths and showered when I got back, just in case.
But the story is more of how his grow looks. VERY Un-impressed. He had a bunch to transplant to his flowering room. He puts 2 in a plastic bucket. Like to store shit, rec. shape for 1 1/2 bags Glacier Gold (local MT potting soil). He has 4 nickel size holes in the bottom and 1 in the bottom side. Plants looked very sad and unhappy. The mites made him remove a lot of growth. If I was a Caregiver, I would be ashamed for patients to see that. Random dirt all over, no organization but this guy is expanding to something like 80 to 100 HID in a warehouse. He grows his untopped to somewhere around 18" then Fimm's all the tops. His in the flowering chamber a couple to three weeks into 12/12 were way Pale. I've smoked his and it was good. I just see how much I could do. He had some nice plants 4 to 5 days away. Looked pretty good, but tons of shriveled fan leaves. He spends way to much time dealing with his 50 clients, and NO where near enough in that garden. He just has a different view about things than me to some point, but I'll get a camera next time to "get a pic of his Blueberry" and I'll get some to share with you guys. He has a Apple Jack that has a great smell. The Hippie Gardener got there and saw all the Veg plants to transplant and had QUITE the look on her face.
Daniels

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Eh, this story is all too familiar. I can honestly say there are too many growers moving past their means. If he's having problems regulating what he has now just IMAGINE what chaos will come from a 100 lamp warehouse. It irritates me to no end when I see so much money and very little positive effort thrown into a grow. Just be glad you've got the knowledge to spot a bunk situation when you see it and your garden is not haggard as well.
 

Danielsgb

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U almost have enough space to do 2 levels in that thing! What light you thinking for this one? If u do 2, I think HPS and CMH, 150 each. Your gonna need some penetration to get the whole thing for sure
So far I know it'll have that 250W CMH pretty much like the other one. I'll look at T-5's for side lightning too. I'll put it's exhaust straight out of the back with a Carbon Filter.
I'm thinking of something new and maybe innovative. A second Cool Tube with a Heat Lamp bulb for it's IR spectrum boost. Maybe 30 minutes before CMH on, then 30 after "sunset. Or some type of variation.
But like you mention both HPS and CMH, I have a 150W HPS too and I was thinking kinda the along the same lines. Maybe CMH as a Main in it's Tube, then another Tube with HPS and IR Bulb. Still thinking about this. I have 2 or three weeks to get it ready to go.:blsmoke:
Daniels:twisted:
 

gumball

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so you got me thinking. i did you a diagram, something for you to chew on while you make up your mind. you could take it a step fourther and run the secondary cool tube to the floor, and either intake from there passively or force air across it with a fan. start that fan with the HPS bulb after the IR turns off so the fan doesnt interfere with the effect of the IR.

would make awesome side lighting.
 

Danielsgb

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I think I have come up with a plan for the Deep Freezer, the FrigiDare 2 Indica After this Doobie.
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I know I want the 250W CMH in the Center like my other fridge. I have a 150W HPS all ready to go. I was thinking both overhead and t-5's for side lighting.

I have a new plan now, that I've hinted to a bit. I needed the day to get it in my head, analyze, and re-read some stuff. I think, I have something that may prove VERY effective to grow 1 Plant, or a SOG for a few. And even more important, would be something to be copied.

After seeing RiddleMe's, when he first mentioned IR a couple months ago, I bought one to be ready. I just got my Main Chamber under temps, so I can't use it there. He is getting good results so far, and it looks encouraging already.

I was going to try the Heat Lamp in a Cool Tube for the IR. I checked it today and it was too big to fit. I was thinking Vertical for it. Gumball put up a post with a good idea I may incorporate.

I saw something involving UV-B and it's point was that the radiation causes damage that the plant repairs by Trichomes thickening. I have noticed my plants under my 400W CMH Veg table are affected by it in some differences to some degree. They are itching to flower at 18/6. Red stems, white pre-flowers, and mutated growth (Silica, I know). I think the fuller red of the CMH is some part of it, and we know they DON'T block the UV-B unless you order the wrong one.

On the Heat Lamp, I was planning on using it for the last 4 weeks or less. From what I've gotten, the last few weeks is when the largest part of the cannibinoids are developed. Now I am using part of this line of thinking with this plan.
The Info from Ed Rosenthal's new book had me thinking. He is obviously a Master and I want that Book to read more of what he's talking about. RiddleMe got me thinking even more, once again. The Idea of Variation in Spectrum to gain growth caught my Eye, I've stewed on it since I read it, then re-read it again.
RiddleMe talks about copying Mother Nature as a goal. I thought that way already, but reading he, and U.B.'s views has CEMENTED it in for the most part. On to my Plan.

From that Ed Rosenthal excerpt.

[/QUOTE]You can make your own far red energy lamp by covering an incandescent bulb with opaque black paper. The visible light is blocked but the far red rays go through the filter. Far red bulbs are available at pet shops where they are sold as black heat lamps.
When far red light comes in contact with the inactive form of the flowering hormone, the hormone is immediately converted to the active form. The far red light doesn’t have to remain in contact with the plants long—just a few moments will do.
Photoperiodism is a localized effect. Because the effect is localized, all parts of the plant must be reached with the far red light. Think of applying far red light as you would think of spraying water on the plant. The entire plant and all its vegetation must be dripping with water when you are done. It is in this manner that you have to spray the plant with invisible light. The spraying should take place each evening after dusk or after the lights have been turned off.[/QUOTE]


So I underlined the idea I caught today after the IR Bulb didn't fit in the Cool Tube. It's what I added last. So I thought "What about window tinting on a Bake-a-Round where each Incandescent is?" I think it would work to 'spray the plant with invisible light'. I thought about it and a 'blue' light in the center of the Tube would work too.
I have 2 Main Ideas. Both have Side Cool Tubes with 2 Incandescents and a Blue Spectrum bulb. 1 Idea is a Horizontal Cool Tube with HPS & Incandescents. The other is a Vertical Cool Tube. The Side Cool Tubes could vent all together with the Horizontal One or the Side Tubes could be lower or higher.
So here's some pics and diagrams. I got all I could, ready to 'un-veil' my plan. What do you guys think? Yellow is CMH, Red is HPS, Purple is Incandescents & Blue is a Blue Spectrum Bulb to be determined still.
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gumball

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looks good, cant wait to see which way you decide to go, but it is a very interesting concept that will be great to follow! great work daniels!
 

jebus2029

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Do you use cool tubes meant for lights or do you Macgyver something into a cool tube? When I make one of these I'll need that clear plastic tube. I just don't know if I should look online for one or make it out of something else.
 

Danielsgb

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Do you use cool tubes meant for lights or do you Macgyver something into a cool tube? When I make one of these I'll need that clear plastic tube. I just don't know if I should look online for one or make it out of something else.
Clear Plastic Tube would warp, if not just melt. I use Pyrex Bake-a-Round. They made them years ago, so E-Bay has them. $20-$30 for one. They were for Baking a tube of dough. You'd think they would start production again for us. There is a way, but I'd have to find it again.
Daniels
 

Danielsgb

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I got the 4X3 PVC in for the Main Cool Tube after an average battle. A 250W CMH for it. :twisted:
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Here's the back and the 5" sq. Drain I use for my fans.
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So I can use a 3" PVC to connect to the 3" male to male that the 4" Tin that the Bake-a-Round goes in. I can get the Tin to PVC ready and measure the 3" PVC to length.
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Still stewing on the Plan. Leaning to Horizontal Idea. Back in a while.
Daniels:blsmoke:
 

HowzerMD

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I think it would be neat if you dialed in the vertical set-up. I have a small idea if you want to hear it. Cheers to the new fridge :D
 

Danielsgb

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I think it would be neat if you dialed in the vertical set-up. I have a small idea if you want to hear it. Cheers to the new fridge :D
I always want to hear an IDEA. It's not like I came up with all this on my own. I clearly admit to robbing many others plans, and/or modding theirs. My Build journals are always great for tossing around stuff. Oh, as long as it's not "You should use it's cooling for the heat." So what'cha got?
Daniels:mrgreen:
 
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