A few questions; SCROG hydro VS SOG Soil

Firstly, I would like to say what an excellent site! been lurking around on a few of these forums for a long while now in prep for a first grow I hope to get under way very soon. I found nearly everything I needed but I need a little help making a few last decisions.

I don't have the time to build my own grow room so I will be using an 80 x 80 x 120 bud box or similar to grow an indica strain under (papaya or black domina probably).

Basically what I would to know is what is my best option given my limited space , a closely packed SOG using soil or a hydro SCROG ( or perhaps just plain growing the plants up to full hieght ) ?

I am basically looking for maximum yield and quality ( I don't mind extra grow time if it is the best option)

If I understand it correctly, I might be able to get a quicker yield using the sog method, but as it not exactly a large growing space the hydro scrog might get better results? I am unsure what to go for and would love some good advice. I was thinking of using the 4 pot Wilma if I went down the hydro route.

many thanks for any kind help, I'll be sure to get a journal up once I get going!

Just wanted to make it clear, I have absolutely no previous experience in growing

also,I will be growing from seed not clone

Sup Dude,

Congrats on starting your grow. Some of your questions would lend me to believe there is some misunderstandings on your part (or mine).
** First, going SOG or SCROG will not determine your time to yield. It MAY effect your yield size, but it should neither hasten nor slow down your veg or flowering time. That being said advocates of each will have arguments; But for basic comprehension purposes lets go off the notion that it's the strain itself which will determine its time to maturity not the medium.
** now as for soil or hydro. i think that's a personal opinion. I personally use DWC. I've grown in soil previously and I feel that my life is simpler in hydro. Plus I like the fact that you can diagnose the entire plant all the way down to the root system.
I don't see how the space will play a role in determining which grow medium to use, where the space is may but not the space itself... Sorry dude you gotta buck up and make the choice yourself.
**One thing you will need to take into consideration is you headroom for your colas to grow. your dimension included the grow area but how much upward space do you have, Is it sufficient? Are you growing 1 plant? Hope its not a male!! (just something to consider)

i hope something in here helped....


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Hey mate,
Thanks so much for the advice bro, much appreciated
On the time thing I thought with SOG you switched the plants to flower as soon as physically possible, where as SCROG requires some vegetative period so the SOG would be a bit quicker to havest or maybe I got mixed up?
the grow tent is 80 x 80 x 120 so got over 1m height to play with.
On the space question, I wasn't sure if a grow using sog yields more or less than a scrog grow (ie does lots of little plants produce more yield/sq foot than a canopy of 4 plants over the same area or would they produce the same yield) sorry if that sounds stupid!
Grow isn't underway yet, and I am going to get feminised seeds to save me the hassel of sexing
thanks again for the help buddy will get my journal underway as soon as I get this sorted, going for papaya seeds.

i love my dwc bubblers....i personally think its easier than soil but its a different taste. scrog and sog are just more productive. better lighting gets to where it needs to be. read everything you can on this site cause some of these folks are pure genious.

talktofank1990 said:

Hey mate,
Thanks so much for the advice bro, much appreciated
On the time thing I thought with SOG you switched the plants to flower as soon as physically possible, where as SCROG requires some vegetative period so the SOG would be a bit quicker to havest or maybe I got mixed up?
the grow tent is 80 x 80 x 120 so got over 1m height to play with.
On the space question, I wasn't sure if a grow using sog yields more or less than a scrog grow (ie does lots of little plants produce more yield/sq foot than a canopy of 4 plants over the same area or would they produce the same yield) sorry if that sounds stupid!
Grow isn't underway yet, and I am going to get feminised seeds to save me the hassel of sexing
thanks again for the help buddy will get my journal underway as soon as I get this sorted, going for papaya seeds.

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Sorry for the time lapse, traveling and working!! I can't advise at on on SOG. My points earlier were geared towards pointing out that its the strain that determines most things..

And maybe your looking at the equation from the wrong angle. You should be trying to use the method that will optimize your space / light sources, grow medium etc... for instance I used a scrog because i really wanted to be able to control my head space utilization. I used a DWC because I wanted a system thats easy to put away and not cause suspicion in my house when someone sees the stuff. And I wanted to be able to bring it out again easily when I need to. DWC was great for this and proven to produce some good returns...

Shit i even chose these beans because of the "short" flowering time.

For the most part you simply dont want to restrict your plants growth, that way you'll have maximum yield. Plus having plants to close to each other and too many. The you risk fungus taking hold from the leaves breathing, and the moisture build up resulting from it..

Keep in mind also that even if you have a plant with many buds site or not so many. Given the same environment 2 clones grown in 2 separate nonrestrictive perfect environments should yield the same weight....with many should turn out the same amount of bud than the other. Everything has it's maximum yield point!!!!


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