SneekyNinja
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Try it slower this time.This is the comment I responded to and btw your math is waaaay off, $1 increase translates to an extra $80 a week?
$1 extra per hour x 40hours =
$40
Maybe the DOE needs more funding too?
A $10 minimum wage would save $7.6 billion annually in spending according to the EPI
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$1 extra per hour x 40hours =
$40
Maybe the DOE needs more funding too?
Catfish1966
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I made no comments about minimum wage not being raised. I don't get Fox News either. You are arguing points I never made and claiming logic and fact? You are making up drivel and claiming it is fact. You are truly a fool.
Blunted 4 lyfe
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YOU were the one who thought $40 extra in pay was a windfall and stated that raising the minimum wage by more than that would be too much.
The mere fact you're on this thread not supporting raising the minimum wage to a living wage IS opposing raising it you moron.
Just like a true republicunt...make statements and then later deny making them hoping hoping no one will scroll back to your very first comment on this thread.
ttystikk
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Busted, "pants on fire" lolYOU were the one who thought $40 extra in pay was a windfall and stated that raising the minimum wage by more than that would be too much.
The mere fact you're on this thread not supporting raising the minimum wage to a living wage IS opposing raising it you moron.
Just like a true republicunt...make statements and then later deny making them hoping hoping no one will scroll back to your very first comment on this thread.
purplehays1
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According to you guys i guess the chart of the massive employment losses after the Seattle hike were just a coincidence that should be ignored because a improving economy turned around the losses? people that think they are smart and believe anyone that disagrees with them is not smart are people living in a dream world. U cant argue with the fact that after the hike Seattle jobs were lost on MASSIVE scale, the only statistics u like to show Uncle Buck are the ones that show the economic situation years after the hike, what about that 6 month period RIGHT AFTER THE RAISE where there were the largest job losses in Seattle since the last failing of capitalism? Anyone can take statistics from an economy that is improving and make it seem like some variable influenced it, when this is obviously not the case. Before the hundreds of variables came into play it was obvious that the raise in the minimum wage caused a dramatic loss of employment in Seattle in the short run. Just look at the chart....thousands of jobs lost in 6 months DIRECTLY correlating to the raise.
purplehays1
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oh but i forgot that chart is "right wing propaganda" along with any other facts that disagree with you.
SneekyNinja
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"Assertions presented without evidence can be dismissed without evidence"
Care to post some evidence or will we apply the above to your assertion?
purplehays1
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look above, i linked a chart
SneekyNinja
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Oh a chart...
I'd rather read something, charts are easy to misrepresent facts with.
Can you provide such?
purplehays1
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Here is from the federal reserve, not sure who u guys will believe, but i believe the fed......
as u can see it shows the exact same graph but in regards to service jobs, u can clearly see a dramatic drop right at the end, tats when the wage lift was implemented. I am not misleading anyone. These are all produced by independent parties, this one by our government. Im not "fanatically creating them" as uncle buck will probably say. Or is the fed putting out right wing propaganda these days?
as u can see it shows the exact same graph but in regards to service jobs, u can clearly see a dramatic drop right at the end, tats when the wage lift was implemented. I am not misleading anyone. These are all produced by independent parties, this one by our government. Im not "fanatically creating them" as uncle buck will probably say. Or is the fed putting out right wing propaganda these days?
purplehays1
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Just to show you that i am not misleading here is a another chart from the same study by the Fed. It shows that after the dramatic decline there was a sharp rebound, but this rebound can be attributed to 100's of things (like a rapidly growing economy since the recession). I feel the decline can only be attributed to one, the increase because it happened nearly EXACTLY at the time of the increase. Obviously this is my opinion, but it is backed with facts, so calling me a liar is just ridiculous.
SneekyNinja
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So you have nothing but charts and assumptions?
purplehays1
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A chart of the employment statistics from the fed, wtf else would u like?
Illinois Enema Bandit
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and illegal immigrant workers create 1.5 jobs for every job they take 
purplehays1
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interesting stat, wheres that come from?and illegal immigrant workers create 1.5 jobs for every job they take
SneekyNinja
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Along with your assumptions as to why it is that way.
I want an article from a reputable source catagorically stating the increase in the minimum wage in Seattle directly resulted in an increase in the minimum wage.
purplehays1
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I can tell u 2000% that the minimum wage increase resulted in a minimum wage increase. I hope that wasn't what you actually want to know. I assume u ment that the increase resulted in job losses?
Uhh bro, no ones gonna give you that because its not fucking possible to show that it is or is not true. Seattle isnt a vacuum where statisticians are able to isolate and determine the effects of every variable. All i was pointing out was that there was a large drop in service jobs, who are the main minimum wage earners. I obviously see that there are many factors, but it is hard to believe that initial decline was not due to the increase in the wage. Whether the wage increase caused the decrease in service jobs is 100% debatable all i have done is voice my opinion and backed it up with stats from reliable source.
Illinois Enema Bandit
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thin airinteresting stat, wheres that come from?
purplehays1
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lol
Fact of the matter is most undocumented workers have a SSN that is not theirs and thus pay taxes on all earnings without receiving any benefit from the state. This may actually lead to every undocumented worker providing a higher % of their earnings to the government. SO i could see a stat along those lines being at least in part true because the government at least in theory creates jobs with this income.
UncleBuck
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i literally linked to and screenshotted the BLS figures for seattle employment. it went up after the minimum wage increase you dumbass.
you can repeat a lie, but it is still a lie.
there were more jobs after the minimum wage increase than there were before. the stats clearly show this.
even if you repeat the lie for a fourth time, it is still a lie.