8 weeks flowering buds arent growing leaves are dying

I'm going into 8 weeks of flowering and for the past 2 and a half weeks almost all of my fan leaves have yellowed and died not to mention the buds are still quite small. I thought over fert but didn't make since was giving the plant fix farm gb, bb, and tb once weekly but I flushed any was with bush doctor sledge hammer. A week later problem still the same slight growth but not much. As of week 7 the plants started foxtailing like crazy and I immediately noticed what I thought were fungus gnats. So I put some plates out of vinegar and let the plants dry up real well then gave then one part hydrogen peroxide to 4 parts water...oh yea BTW soil oh has been in between 6.0-7.0 whole grow. I guess my question is am I just crazy and maybe and its a sativa dominant strain and I'm still 4 weeks away from harvest or am I in serious trouble using peat moss, perlite and a little hydroton to keep medium loose and hydroton on top as mulch in 3 gallon pots also adding unsulfured molasses
 

Canibal

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It sounds like you know what you're doing. Without pics there is really no way for us to know more than you at his point. If i had to guess Id say you might have rootbind or rootrot.
 
Man I have a scrog so I don't pitt the buckets much but there is about a inch of root growing out the bottom and its starting to turn slightly brown could I fill another 3 gallon about 1/3 the way with more peat and hydroton and sit the plant in it thus allowing more soil for the roots pushing through the drainage holes ( I can always cut them out bigger) because transplanting the whole grow would be hopless at this time
 

canefan

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the h2o2 was a little strong to be sure in soil it would be 4 oz per 32 oz of water. It is hard to kill beneficial microbes with peroxide but pathegons it will kill for sure easily. Without seeing pics it is very much a guessing game as to what the problem is, and then it is still a guess for the most part. Yellowing from the bottom up is normally a sign of a def. in the plant more than likely N. Sorry, I don't use all these fancy nutes and don't know the names for your intitials but how much N is in those nutes?
In the future you should just pay a little more attention to the leaves at the bottom of your plant. A slight change in color will be your first indication to bump up one thing or another. The plants need N throughout the grow, N is needed in the plant to help with the transportation of other nutes. It is an old wives tale that you don't feed N during flower, your plants should remain green until harvest. That being said each strain will react differently to levels of N during flower and it comes down to learning what your strain needs and in what amount.
Good Luck
 
yesterday I carefully cut the bottom two inches of the plastic nursery pots, ( being careful I didn't cut the roots ) took very clean nursery pots ( same as plants are in put microwaved peat moss in them about 6" deep. Nudging the peat moss with a 8 to 1 H202 solution oh balanced with on drop of super thrive I also misted the bottom of the roots ( very rootbound by the way, couldn't see the soil at bottom). I went back in my journal realized technically its inbetween week 6 and 7 considering it took almost two weeks to show sex. Also notice the foxtailing? Or is it " running". Cause I'm starting to doubt the critters I have may not be fungus gnats cause I don't see any big adults around only thing in the soil and vinegar in hundreds of tiny long bodied silver bugs. I put potatoes on top of soil for 6 hours. No larvae or pupa. Plus the peroxide isn't killing it. Used peroxide twice
 
Based on my pics and detailed information do you think my plants will recover? this is not my first soil grow , I've had 5 successful harvest now but this is the first time using a little hydroton in the medium to keep it loose. Could my plants be so root bound from all the lost space the hydroton. takes up? I usually just use it for my dwc net pots and as a mulch on top but had a lot left over since I switched to sure to grow inserts. I've read a lot about root bound only being a issue during veg. But if maybe they were already root bound before I induced flowering be the issue. Will adding the extra soil like I explained help the issue since the borrow was so crowded and matted giving it somewhere to go or am I in a serious pickle here since 85 % of the fan leaves died off
 

montanachadly

Active Member
in my honest opinion i think the plant is fucked its gonna take months for it to make buds cause its too stressed im sorry to say that but if its your only plant and you have nothing going on besides it keep it i guess but if you have more flowering i would get rid of that one you dont want it to throw out a few bananas without you knowing from the stress
 

$waGgEr

Active Member
in my honest opinion i think the plant is fucked its gonna take months for it to make buds cause its too stressed im sorry to say that but if its your only plant and you have nothing going on besides it keep it i guess but if you have more flowering i would get rid of that one you dont want it to throw out a few bananas without you knowing from the stress
and yeah..those are trash..i hate to say it but..shit sorry man...start over..
 
It's all 6 of my plants. I mean same strain, same nutes, same climate the only difference is I put hydroton in the soil so it didn't get compact and it crowded the help out of the root system. Any idea what the tiny long bodied silver bug are ( they only live in the soil) could it be root aphids? Has anyone revived a plant that was insect and root bind damaged?
 

dankness19

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They have teas you can brew look them up fast man maybe you have a slight chance try it out and tell me how it works
 
For the stress of root bound or the insects I think they ate springtails which eat the peat not theroots. Know anyone who let a mid-flowering plant go root bound for 2-3 weeks before realizing and transplanting? Is that why my plant has been fox tailing and fan leaves dying.
 
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