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grow plenty

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how is it not the way it works? did you have trouble finding sources? it's all over the place.

a lot of sources swear by it. though co2 isn't necessary for a successful grow. with or without, it won't effect the life of my plants.

TAKE CARE! don't come back

User: Pipe Dream does the same thing. very successful grower. ...

You act like I'm trying to invent new things and that I'm doing everything wrong. lol I really don't want anymore information if it's going to lead to you guys trying to corner me with no logic. I know I might need some assistance in the future. but i honestly don't know of what. maybe I'll ask what your favorite type of blunt papers are after I get done harvesting these puppies.
YOU ARE inventing new things! your stacking shit on top of each other to raise your garden to your light source...what research told you to do that?you invented the term (leafage)....lord only knows you invented that stupid ass light schedule, you say you have helped many and you have given even exp. growers advice, then you start this grow out with incacent light bulbs, some damn good growers have given you the best advice and you dont listen to them,.....WTF ? and from my past exp. those will be just what you called them "puppies"!!! wont be enough for a blunt, youll kill em long before spring at the rate your going. and wheres the pics?
 

tafbang

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oh yeah... i almost forgot! and since i didn't read pages 15-23, is there anything else i missed? are the plants now in a briefcase?
even if they were in transfered to a briefcase. how would that mean anything. I could easily use a briefcase as a pot. it can hold things right? all it needs to hold is some soil. and I have a pot. shoo, you peasant
 

tafbang

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YOU ARE inventing new things! your stacking shit on top of each other to raise your garden to your light source...what research told you to do that?you invented the term (leafage)....lord only knows you invented that stupid ass light schedule, you say you have helped many and you have given even exp. growers advice, then you start this grow out with incacent light bulbs, some damn good growers have given you the best advice and you dont listen to them,.....WTF ? and from my past exp. those will be just what you called them "puppies"!!! wont be enough for a blunt, youll kill em long before spring at the rate your going. and wheres the pics?


that's called common sense.... holy shit.. lol this is officially the most idiotic place I've ever seen on the internet

"your stacking shit on top of each other to raise your garden to your light source" TERRIBLE IDEA!!! LOL
 

tafbang

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a couple more pictures I just found online of grow-plenty





I'm sorry lol, I'm done. It's time to cook some food and do some stretching.
 

frmrboi

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how do I quote 40 people at once so I don't have to post 40 times.
open a duplicate tab of the page your viewing, in that tab hit the reply with quote, copy that text/code then cancel it, paste it into your original page reply, add your coments then go back to the duplicate page and repeat the process with another posters coment, keep doing that till your done or exhausted.
 

thedoc08

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How is any of that dumb. you should think really quick. If anything it's innovative.

I'm sure you probably would've just held the plants in your hand above your head for 16 hours a day under the light. lol
If OP is serious, I'm not exactly sure what to say. If he isn't you have to give him credit for being one of the best trolls in RIU history. In response to the above quote, I'm sure what he would have done was go to a garden supply store, shell out 20$ for 8 pots, and grow happily ever after. If the last couple pages are accurate, and OP hasn't posted any pictures of his grow, I'm pretty inclined to call him an A+ troll rather than stupid.
 

Brick Top

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Definitely need to get them in individual pots? plenty of successful grows with multiple to a pot. they are spaced pretty well so I don't think that it's a definite must.I will when I can though.

Not to sound like I am trying to give you crap, again, but stop and think a moment. Your basket is small, your seedlings are small. They appear to be well spaced to you. Do you have any idea of how large they will get, if they manage to grow, and that is a BIG if?

Also keep in mind that plants keep, as close as their conditions and environment will allow, a 50/50 ratio to above soil growth and below soil growth. That means you have very nearly the same amount of below soil plant matter as above soil plant matter, though of course growing it different shapes and patterns. That means that IF you get lucky and your plants survive, by the time they get about 6 inches tall in veg you will never be able to separate them, if you then re-pot, without major root damage/loss, unless you do a bare-root transplant, and then then you will have some root damage/loss.

I have one container on my deck that I will from time to time grow four plants in. It is a 25-gallon pot that I used 1/4 inch plastic to section the inside off into four separate growing chambers, like four separate pots inside one large container, and even with it separated like that I do not us it often because it is not the best way to go.



I'd say the most important is the light... and for everything else. your light schedule is quite demanding. people have grown with 12/12 and 24 till veg and other hours with some supreme buds... so I don't believe in that.

People have made things that looked like wings and strapped them on their arms and dove off of tall cliffs thinking they would be able to fly. It didn't turn out exactly as they planned. You can read about many different people using many different light cycles but just because they use them that does not mean they are the best, or even all that good. Plants have certain functions that are performed during hours of light and others that are performed during hours of darkness. They need each to grow as well as they can so the 24 hour in veg light cycle is not a good light cycle to use and no matter how many people say they use it and how well it works botanical science proves their beliefs to be inaccurate. For cannabis the best light cycle you can use is 18/6 for veg, period, thee end. In flower, there is no question, it is 12/12, period, thee end.

In any growing situation where it comes down to what you believe versus scientifically proven botanical science, what you personally believe will loose 100% of the time unless just by some stroke of luck your chosen belief is the same as what has been scientifically proven. so far not one single thing you have said has come even remotely close to that being the case.



I'm doing nothing more than mimicking nature besides the light quality.
Right. In nature people always see cannabis plants growing in pink and white picnic baskets on top of stacks of books under totally inadequate lighting with white sheets for reflective material in 50 degree temperatures. I live on a lake and just the other day while walking in the woods I notices some cannabis plants growing wild and they were growing in the exact same way as you are growing them. It happens all the time, it's natural, it's Mother Nature's way of growing cannabis plants.

the lights are doing pretty sexy right now
I don't even know what that means.


but we just got done with another blizzard last night and the past couple days.. going to get those Daylight cfls on the double.
While you are at it be sure to purchase light fixtures, with some sort of reflectors on them, even something as basic as small clamp on shop lights, so you can bring your plants down to floor level and get some decent light on them, pick up enough pots, of adequate size, nothing under 4-gallons and 5-gallon size or larger would be better, and purchase enough high quality soil to fill the pots with, toss some quality vegging and flowering fertilizer in your shopping cart and with it, if not something like Mylar or Foylon, at least enough flat white paint to give you some decent reflectivity .... oh, and while you are out be sure to pick up a furnace so you can warm your home at least close to a temperature range cannabis plants will grow in without suffering major problems from temperatures that are too cold.

If you purchase all those things then you will at least have the bare minimum, the very most basic things needed to have some chance for at least a quasi-successful grow.
 

Skunkybud

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You sir are a nincompoop. The ceiling isn't the only source for light thats the source for light to light your room. YOU must provide the light for the plant buy buying a fucking light for it dude its that simple you don't gutta use that stupid damn balancing act in the picnic basket to grow thats absurd dude. It's a full blow waste of time by the time you are done you will yeild nothing more than dead leaves and tiny root systems and dirt in your chandelier and picnic basket. I mean common guy your embarrassing yourself with this I mean at this point I'm 90% sure your lying and doing this just to get reactions. I WANNA SEE PICS OF THIS PITTIFUL ATTEMPT AT A GROW.
GET OFF YOUR ASS AND TAKE YOUR SLED DOGS TO A FUCKING WALMART AND GET A CAMERA.
 

Brick Top

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From page number 6 .. message number 110 ... your message:


I'm involved in 1 other community. and I'm highly popular and a praised ( sounds cocky and conceited but I'm just being honest ) I'm also the top poster. I've been there for almost 6 years and I'm always helping people. As a matter of fact, somebody just made a thread about me today out of the blue confessing love and respect

Why didn't you start this thread there where you are "popular and praised," and where you are a "top poster," as if that means anything at all, so all the people who "love and respect" you can see the true growing knowledge and expertise of the person who has been helping them for roughly six years?

Why did you come here hoping to find help and advice and then refuse each and every piece of useful help and advice you were given and just reply by calling people burnouts and farmers and various things that were far, far more rude and abusive?

People here will help you. You only need to accept their help rather than abusively reject it.
 

greenesthaze

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there aren’t eight plants in a picnic basket ontop of 28 books on chair on that table. This whole operation he has supposably has going on really doesnt exsist. Its some slow kid who thinks he can come on here and discredit all the LOGIC ADVICE the keeps being REPEATED LIKE A BROKEN RECORD because he is a moron and for some reason is just so stubborn and set in his ways(figured it out you haven’t) gotten what you wanted as a child.
This bafoon is merely trying to make fun us growers calling us “slow“ and what not. Snow dogs haha that one actually made me laugh you imbred, so if this is ACTUALLY going on you can shut up from here on out take the advice given and get those merch seeds out of the picnic basket(lmfao) and into some real pots!
 

Brick Top

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I saw an expert grower on youtube use it and it's an easy diy. it's the same thing as that. why are you going all nuts

That is Greenman's "I Grow Chronic," I have the video and there is not so much as one single thing in it that says that anyone should ever do so much as one single thing you have been saying should be done or works .. not one single thing.

Here are the links to the video .. it is in segments.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KVO26htvoQ&has_verified=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kBQbEjMpGA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI6y8k2ZVxs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o_2E5A6KI0 (this segment and some segments on YouTube were re-titled I Grow Green .. but it is the same video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YSpLAN37EFs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_mYrxEBBg8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bvLskVH7TM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwEy6Z_OjRA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RgU4tQ6-aYo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qf-xA9p8gDM


(There may have been a mislabeled duplicate segment in there .. but that is the video. Please tell us which segment Greenman will show us how to grow in a picnic basket on top of a stack of books in 50 degree temperatures.

If you are attempting to use Greenman's video as proof that more than one plant can be grown in a single container you presented a very weak argument. His vegging plants were all kept separate from each other, not all grown together in one tiny picnic basket. His one container for flowering is MUCH larger than your picnic basket with a large amount of space that holds a large amount of hydroton, since he is growing hydro in his video.

If you believed that you were duplicating, or even nearly duplicating Greenman's setup, you were wrong. You came about as close to duplicating Greenman's hydro setup as a kid's folded paper airplane would come to duplicating a space shuttle.
 

Brick Top

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Originally Posted by grow plenty YOU ARE inventing new things! your stacking shit on top of each other to raise your garden to your light source...what research told you to do that?you invented the term (leafage)....lord only knows you invented that stupid ass light schedule, you say you have helped many and you have given even exp. growers advice, then you start this grow out with incacent light bulbs, some damn good growers have given you the best advice and you dont listen to them,.....WTF ? and from my past exp. those will be just what you called them "puppies"!!! wont be enough for a blunt, youll kill em long before spring at the rate your going. and wheres the pics?


that's called common sense.... holy shit.. lol this is officially the most idiotic place I've ever seen on the internet

The genetic structure (genotype) only plays 50% of the role in determining the appearance and quality (phenotype) of a given plant. The other half is determined by environmental conditions such as light, temperature, humidity. soil nutrition and more. All these factors play a role in the growth and health of plants and the physical and chemical nature of marijuana's trichomes.


When someone attempts to grow cannabis, if they hope to be at all successful that is, they will do their very best to create growing conditions, a growing environment, that will be as optimal to growing cannabis plants as they possibly can. You have done the exact opposite of that.

Creating as near to optimal growing conditions/environment is the only way to have any chance of true success when growing cannabis. For each and every tiny bit of that where someone fails, where their setup falls short, there will be a loss and when there are enough failures, shortfalls, combined, it equates to total failure.

Someone cannot take a plant with thousands and thousands of years of evolution shaping and forming and directing what it does, how it does it and when it does what it needs and when it needs it, all according to strict genetic coding that is not flexible, that cannot be altered, that cannot be trained, that is not "instinct" and actually believe they will succeed unless they are delusional.

Given what you are attempting, you might as well plant palm trees in the Antarctic and expect them to successfully grow and flourish.

Dude ... accept the help and advice that at least a few people have given you, like me when I posted the list of online growing books and other sites for valid growing information, and follow the information you find there, rather than rejecting what help is given and being abusive while doing it. People will help you if you only chill out and open up your mind and accept the help.

I will give you one half point for something that others said you are doing that does not work. It will not work given your conditions, but what you are doing will work under certain conditions. That is feeding your plants CO2 at night (though I somewhat doubt you are pumping actual CO2 onto them, but if you are, then when you were told that plants do not use CO2 at night, depending if certain conditions did exist, which they do not in your case, you were told wrong.

Plants do not need sunlight or light from grow lights to take in CO2 and use it, they only need stored light energy. The energy harvested via the light reaction is stored by forming a chemical called ATP (adenosine triphosphate), a compound used by cells for energy storage. This chemical is made of the nucleotide adenine bonded to a ribose sugar, and that is bonded to three phosphate groups. This molecule is very similar to the building blocks for our DNA. The dark reaction takes place in the stroma within the chloroplast, and converts CO2 to sugar. This reaction doesn't directly need light in order to occur, but it does need the products of the light reaction (ATP and another chemical called NADPH). The dark reaction involves a cycle called the Calvin cycle in which CO2 and energy from ATP are used to form sugar.

Plants grown in extremely hot, dry areas like deserts, can only safely open their stomates at night when the weather is cool. Thus, there is no chance for them to get the CO2 needed for the dark reaction during the daytime. At night when they can open their stomates and take in CO2, these plants incorporate the CO2 into various organic compounds to store it.

You get a half point for your nigh time use of CO2, well maybe a quarter point since your growing conditions are not such where this sort of process would occur.
 
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