600w Granddaddy Blueberry SOG: Pics

sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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pussyogre said:
yeah man just growing for the first time.
I've succesfully seeded 6 out of 6 seeds (3 caramel and 3 ice) and put them in some rockwool yesterday so I'm quite proud of that lol.

Two have just come out this morning ;)
Here are some pics of my setup.

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Damn man your plants look sweet.
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Congrats on a successful germination you should definitely be proud! I only grow from clone now because the first time I attempted growing from seed I was 3 for 10 haha not great. Whered you get your seeds? Im guessing online considering the genetics are fairly new? I dont know if it is possible but if you can I would recommend starting from clones as you dont need to worry about males and hermies. If not I would take 2 clones from each of your plants (a week or two before flowering) and quick flower them to show sex. If you get a few females of the Ice, and you cannot get clones, separate one of them and keep it as a mother plant. That way you will constantly have female clones on tap! Your set-up looks sick I think we have similar tents actually! Whats your grow op specs? ie lights, ballast, hood, vent, soil, nutrients, grow techniques ect. Thanks for the compliment! Just think, in about a month yours will be looking the same gotta love this hobby! Just remember its your first grow, ask as many questions as you can and if youre able to purchase the grow bible (theres a few of them but anything by Ed rosenthal or Jorge Cervantes or Jack Herer is good stuff). The book "Marijuana Horticulture: The indoor/outdoor medical grower's bible" by Jorge Cervantes has saved me a more than a few times, its been a priceless resource.
 
sfsurfer

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Kushkittens said:
Very cool :)
yeah hold off on the nutes for a little they will bounce back. More pics! haha
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Ya they just got nutes last night and seemed to have appreciated it so im in the clear! Ill have more pics as soon as I can locate my charger, I just hate using my phone.
 
pussyogre

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sfsurfer said:
Congrats on a successful germination you should definitely be proud! I only grow from clone now because the first time I attempted growing from seed I was 3 for 10 haha not great. Whered you get your seeds? Im guessing online considering the genetics are fairly new? I dont know if it is possible but if you can I would recommend starting from clones as you dont need to worry about males and hermies. If not I would take 2 clones from each of your plants (a week or two before flowering) and quick flower them to show sex. If you get a few females of the Ice, and you cannot get clones, separate one of them and keep it as a mother plant. That way you will constantly have female clones on tap! Your set-up looks sick I think we have similar tents actually! Whats your grow op specs? ie lights, ballast, hood, vent, soil, nutrients, grow techniques ect. Thanks for the compliment! Just think, in about a month yours will be looking the same gotta love this hobby! Just remember its your first grow, ask as many questions as you can and if youre able to purchase the grow bible (theres a few of them but anything by Ed rosenthal or Jorge Cervantes or Jack Herer is good stuff). The book "Marijuana Horticulture: The indoor/outdoor medical grower's bible" by Jorge Cervantes has saved me a more than a few times, its been a priceless resource.
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Actually for the germination, I put them in some damp paper towel between two ceramic kitchen plates on top of the router (the heat from the router was constant and perfect).
For the cloning I'm definetly doing that in the future but I only had seeds from the kit I bought.

I bought the seeds here in spain I believe they are spanish breeds ( pretty sure that the cream caramel is and has a lot of recognition over here)
The seeds are feminised so I should end up with only females. I'll make sure though because I'm really paranoid about males lol.

I'm leaving for the summer so in september I'll set up a nice cloning system with a couple of mothers of my favourite bud.

My grow op is a 4x4x6.5' tent, a couple of vents for intake and extraction, a 600w HPS with a normal ballast (not electronic) and some pre nuted soil for vegetation.
I've also got some bloombastic nutes (a kind of complete basic kit with something for every stage)
As for the technique, I'll just veg until end of february (about a month) and then put them on flowering.
I dont really want to worry about cloning or anything fancy since I'm still learning quite a bit and want to get comfortable with the rest of the process first.

I've read quite a bit about the subject but I'll be investing in a more pro setup and some good books as soon as I harvest this and get a bit of money back (quite broke ATM :S)


Thanks so much for you input man, it's nice to see that other people are really into it too ;)

Cheers
 
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hey sf a question about that sunpulse 3k for flowering. Do you like it? I was reading your cheese grow and you said that you yeilded low and some people say they cause lower yeilds.Have you used an HPS before to compare.PLZ help not sure if i should pick up the sunpulse or a digilux HPS.
 
sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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Bignugzz said:
hey sf a question about that sunpulse 3k for flowering. Do you like it? I was reading your cheese grow and you said that you yeilded low and some people say they cause lower yeilds.Have you used an HPS before to compare.PLZ help not sure if i should pick up the sunpulse or a digilux HPS.
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I did yield lower than I have using an HPS however ten days before I harvested I went home for christmas/new years and had a friend watch my plants for me and he didnt realize the temperature was dipping down to 65*F at night. The temperature definitely affected my harvest but I dont think the light gave me a lower yield considering I still harvested about 45 grams dry from each of the plants. I would definitely recommend getting the bulb if you have a veg light already (you cant really use the sunpulse for both stages). For one, the bulb was built to run on digital ballasts so it will outlast your HPS which runs inefficiently on digital ballasts. Also the spectrum is a supposedly a "better fit" to the spectrum needing during flowering at 3000k compared to HPS which runs at 2300k. Despite what I have heard and been told, I really liked using the sunpulse bulb. The finished bud I harvested from my cheese using the sunpulse was MUCH frostier and stickier than the romulan I harvested using an HPS. If you have a digital ballast, a secondary vegging bulb and a little extra cash I would go for the sunpulse!
 
BrandonT

BrandonT

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those plants look great, except you might notice that most leaves are sets of 3, sometimes 4 this is a good sign of what could be underfeeding, sometimes it can be the strain but rare in this case. What are you feeding these plants and how much per gallon? i say you could definately increase your feedings, if you have a ppm meter i would raise probably 50-100 ppm and see what your results are, then keep raising untill you see an early sign of nute burn; then hold back 50 and you will be feeding at max potential
with that many of the same kind they will all react very similar to the nutrients, so unlike me having 6 different strains that should be easy to control
 
sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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pussyogre said:
Actually for the germination, I put them in some damp paper towel between two ceramic kitchen plates on top of the router (the heat from the router was constant and perfect).
For the cloning I'm definetly doing that in the future but I only had seeds from the kit I bought.

I bought the seeds here in spain I believe they are spanish breeds ( pretty sure that the cream caramel is and has a lot of recognition over here)
The seeds are feminised so I should end up with only females. I'll make sure though because I'm really paranoid about males lol.

I'm leaving for the summer so in september I'll set up a nice cloning system with a couple of mothers of my favourite bud.

My grow op is a 4x4x6.5' tent, a couple of vents for intake and extraction, a 600w HPS with a normal ballast (not electronic) and some pre nuted soil for vegetation.
I've also got some bloombastic nutes (a kind of complete basic kit with something for every stage)
As for the technique, I'll just veg until end of february (about a month) and then put them on flowering.
I dont really want to worry about cloning or anything fancy since I'm still learning quite a bit and want to get comfortable with the rest of the process first.

I've read quite a bit about the subject but I'll be investing in a more pro setup and some good books as soon as I harvest this and get a bit of money back (quite broke ATM :S)


Thanks so much for you input man, it's nice to see that other people are really into it too ;)

Cheers
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No worries man anytime you have questions feel free to ask im always down to chat about growing! Definitely a good idea taking it slow and learning your stuff. My first grow taught me how and what to look for the hard way lol your smart to do your research AHEAD of time! So how many plants are you planning to grow? And im not sure if you've looked into it or if you've considered it but low stress training (LST) is an easy method to grow high yielding, easily to manage plants that have multiple main colas and a perfectly even canopy. I did it on my last grow and I wish I had started LST on my first grow as the plants are shorter and denser (thus easier to handle, especially by youreslf), they have much less "popcorn nugs" and the entire plant is getting the most intense light possible. Just a suggestion but if youre interested I can help explain the process and my last grow is pretty much a guide.
 
sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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BrandonT said:
those plants look great, except you might notice that most leaves are sets of 3, sometimes 4 this is a good sign of what could be underfeeding, sometimes it can be the strain but rare in this case. What are you feeding these plants and how much per gallon? other then this fact the plants are looking VERY healthy great job.
also what light are you using
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Thanks a lot man! Im pretty sure they're getting their nutes, they just got transplanted into fox farm OF and they get hit with a quarter dose every other watering. I did burn them slightly the first time they were given nutes but after I toned down the dose they seem happy. Im feeding them Grow Big, Big Bloom, Open Seasame and EM-1. I have the entire fox farm nute line so I just go by their schedule. Hopefully they arent under fed though, that could mean I have salt build up in the soil which would be a bummer going into flowering :/ Thanks for the heads up!
 
BrandonT

BrandonT

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what i would try, just a suggestion because an old man once said dont fix whats not broken; is use a flushing solution and flush the plants, once flushed feed the same dose you have been and see the results, for example feed as usual but when u would usually feed just straight water i would add a flushing solution and get rid of any possible nutrient/salt buildup; if this increases the leaf ratio for new growth you know it worked, if not you could always try my first suggestion and feed a little more, im sure the first time feeding you might have burned them but how long ago was that? it might be time to put it back up to that ratio and see what happens
 
sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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BrandonT said:
what i would try, just a suggestion because an old man once said dont fix whats not broken; is use a flushing solution and flush the plants, once flushed feed the same dose you have been and see the results, for example feed as usual but when u would usually feed just straight water i would add a flushing solution and get rid of any possible nutrient/salt buildup; if this increases the leaf ratio for new growth you know it worked, if not you could always try my first suggestion and feed a little more, im sure the first time feeding you might have burned them but how long ago was that? it might be time to put it back up to that ratio and see what happens
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I think im gunna try that, they were burned about 6 days ago so I just started nutes again but a flush may be a good idea regardless. Thanks for the input definitely appreciated!
 
BrandonT

BrandonT

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no problem, a flush is always a good idea its like a new start to test your plants capabilities along with your nutrients and additives
 
sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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So kind of a big change today, ive decided to pull four of the girls out of the flowering tent and continue to veg them in 10 gallon buckets for the 7/8 weeks of flowering. The strain is growing perfect for LST and the genetics are great so im hoping to get a few massive bushes by the time the other clones are finished flowering. Ive got 320w of CFL over them right now and I intend on adding an additional 240w in a few days. Im getting excited to see these girls start flowering though, the growth tips are all about 4 inches right now and stretching fast!
 
pussyogre

pussyogre

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sfsurfer said:
No worries man anytime you have questions feel free to ask im always down to chat about growing! Definitely a good idea taking it slow and learning your stuff. My first grow taught me how and what to look for the hard way lol your smart to do your research AHEAD of time! So how many plants are you planning to grow? And im not sure if you've looked into it or if you've considered it but low stress training (LST) is an easy method to grow high yielding, easily to manage plants that have multiple main colas and a perfectly even canopy. I did it on my last grow and I wish I had started LST on my first grow as the plants are shorter and denser (thus easier to handle, especially by youreslf), they have much less "popcorn nugs" and the entire plant is getting the most intense light possible. Just a suggestion but if youre interested I can help explain the process and my last grow is pretty much a guide.
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I'm planning on 6 plants and 4 have already come out of the soil.
I was planning on tying them down with strings every so often. I've looked it up a bit but I've got some time before I start doing it.

What did you end up doing? I would love some input and some ideas of what worked for you.

I'll top and clone 2 plants for my flat mate and to compare the diferences in yield between the 2 methods anyways ;)

How old are your plants ?
 
sfsurfer

sfsurfer

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pussyogre said:
I'm planning on 6 plants and 4 have already come out of the soil.
I was planning on tying them down with strings every so often. I've looked it up a bit but I've got some time before I start doing it.

What did you end up doing? I would love some input and some ideas of what worked for you.

I'll top and clone 2 plants for my flat mate and to compare the diferences in yield between the 2 methods anyways ;)

How old are your plants ?
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My plants are 2 weeks old today and have been LSTed once and let grow up into a SOG/LST combo. I LST my plants from about the time they are 4-5 inches tall and then once a week (or shorter depending how fast they grow) to keep the canopy as low as possible. My last grow, despite an issue with cold temperature right at the end of flowering, was 5 plants and nearly 100 tops that yielded about 1.5oz each. Definitely would have gotton more had I been here to control the temperature swing. The nugs were all main colas also which was pretty nice. If youre thinking about doing LST, there are a TON of different methods and everyone has one they claim is the best. Personally I dont think it matters so much as to how you LST but rather that you do it properly. What youre trying to do is essentially the same as topping where you are redustributing the auxins from one growth shoot to several but without stressing your plants from cutting them. When I LST the first thing I do is tie a counter anchor around the main stem pulling the plant in the opposite direction you plan on LSTing to prevent your plants from pulling themselves out of the ground trying to correct the training (dont tie the anchor taught against the stem as it will eventually choke your plant as the stem gets larger). After I do this I have flexible stainless steel wire (you can use clothes hanges cut up as a substitute) that I fashon into a 9 inch strip or so with a small hook on the top of it. I use this hood to grab the main stem about an inch or two below the apicol tip and bend it far enough down to be below any other secondary growth spots. I usually bend the plant almost to the ground to allow the auxims, which regulates what growth tips become apicol, to fully relocate into the rest of the plant. After the initial LST you just wait until the secondary growths become 2-3 inches and then tie them down also until you have a very short, dense bush with several apicol colas (ive gotton 20+ per plant but ive seen people get up to 30/40). This method will allow you to maximize your light, space and control over the plants, which is essential for growing good weed. Also, because this is your first time growing keeping your plants short and stocky will definitely help you keep on top of any issues that might sprout up and go unnoticed if you had a 4-5 foot tree (nugs need to be tied up, finding any signs of mold or insects, ect). The one thing I will suggest if you do decide to LST is that you only grow LSTed plants. If you let one plant grow straight up it will push the light farther away from the LSTed plant and any benefits of having an even canopy goes to waste. Hope this helps somewhat, let me know if you have any questions!
 
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