60 Plant Grow Setup

Lately when I water the water kind of sits on top of the soil in a puddle form and take about 10 seconds to saturate. I water using my hand not to create a hole. Is this nomral.

My girls are 2 maybe 3 times the size of yours and I feed them about the same in 3 gal pots. Approx every 3 days and I even had the same Sour Deisel strain. Its very possible he is over feeding, my temps are much higher so I can only imagine that trent should only have to feed his one quart-quart 1/2 every 3 days until they get bigger. But then again his humidity is much lower... Hope u get your nute issue figured out soon.
I think all of us can agree that when you can nutrient issues the easiest turn around is to feed a standard 20-20-20 for 2 feeedings and see how they respond.
Does anyone know the right feeding schedule he should be on with the fox farm?
You cant always trust the directions as written.

I dont understand. What do you mean by fish

trenton said:

Lately when I water the water kind of sits on top of the soil in a puddle form and take about 10 seconds to saturate. I water using my hand not to create a hole. Is this nomral.

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load up some water with nitrogen. water them well. wait 30 mins. come back and water again. all that water in your tray? let it stay there a few hours. the pots will soak it up. i really think your soil has dry spots. it needs to be saturated. you can do this with no problems as long as you let the soil dry out before you do it again. i think it's a simple fix. food and water.


did you know some people water from the bottom? they have their pots set-up like yours and when it comes time to water they just fill the flood tray with a couple inches of water and let it soak up thru the bottom of the pots. trivia for the day.

use the schedule fox farm gave you with the nutes. they have a guide posted on their website too in pdf. i dont remember but do you have an intake into the room? i know about the exhaust but i dont remember the intake question. once in awhile in my old grow i would have to seal off the room during a few hours for odor issues. when i would come back the plants would be completely drooped and looking dead, except for the sturdy main stem. after running the fan on them for an hour and watering with pHed water they shot right back up into healthy looking beasts. so i dont know if maybe they are underwatered or have low co2. but from what i hear co2 levels are ok normally but idk. just a thought. have you thought about getting the other three nutrient supplements from fox farms? the open sesame and there are two others. ive never used them but they seem cool. nice pictures anyways. peace

So I watered each of the 60 3 gallon bucket plants with 1.3 quarts each. Basically 1 gallon of nuted water did 3 plants. I did 1 gallon at a time. I filled the gallon with water then added 3 teaspoons of grow Big, Shaked the gallon up well then added 2 tablespoons of grow big, Shaked the gallon up again, then I checked the PH. The PH read at 6.5-6.6 so I did not add any PH up or down. Each gallon was only good to water 3 plants so basically I did this process 20 times (took about 3 hours).
I would stick my finger down the soil in several different spots and for the most part it was dry.
1 thing I did notice is that when I watered a plant I set it off to the side to experiment. Again, I used 1.3 quart per 3 gallon bucket. I put only about half that in and I would allready see some coming out the bottom of the bucket. Why is it doing that? I water really evenly out of my hand trying not to create any holes.

trenton said:

So I watered each of the 60 3 gallon bucket plants with 1.3 quarts each. Basically 1 gallon of nuted water did 3 plants. I did 1 gallon at a time. I fill the gallon with water then added 3 teaspoons of grow Big. Shaked the gallon up well then added 2 tablespoons of grow big. Shaked the gallon up again, then I checked the PH. The PH reaar at 6.5-.6.6 so I did not add any PH up or down. Each gallon was only good to water 3 plants so basically I did this process 20 times (took about 3 hours).
1 thing I did notice is i would stick my finger down the soil in several different spots of the soil and for the most part it was dry.
1 thing I did notice is that when I watered a plant I set it off to the side to experiment. Again, I used 1.3 quart per 3 gallon bucket. I putonly about half that in and would allready see some coming out the bottom of the bucket. Why is it doing that. I water really evenly out of my hand trying not to create any holes.

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your soil has "hard/dry spots" it needs to be SOAKED.

Thanks FDD. About watering from the bottom up. I love that idea. My friend has a setup that is all on hydro. He uses flood tables with a pumps and resevoirs undernieth and about 3 times a day it automatically floods the tables for a certain amount of time. I am really considering doing a setup like that next time. For some reason though I thought It would be best to start with the soil and doing every little thing manually.

When you get your moisture meter, you should be able to find out if you have some dry spots in your soil.. I think Fdd my be on to something with this one...or just on something....maybe both..

trenton said:

Thanks FDD. About watering from the bottom up. I love that idea. My friend has a setup that is all on hydro. He uses flood tables with a pumps and resevoirs undernieth and about 3 times a day it automatically floods the tables for a certain amount of time. I am really considering doing a setup like that next time. For some reason though I thought It would be best to start with the soil and doing every little thing manually.

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you can basically do the same thing with soil. the water will "wick" up into the pots.

I have a dvd with JC and If I remember right he says if the water is just siting on top you can add a few drops of dish soap and this will help the water flow faster and easier.

Like fdd said dry/hard spots in the soil. Is the soil compacted? I know the roots like a easier lose soil.

Have you done any flushing yet? I know this will take for ever but mabe you should try a few and see whats going on in the soil. Put a few gallons in one of the bad ones and take a good look at the water. Do you have ec tester? Its a must and will help alot. Should only be around $50.00 or more if you want a really nice one.

Excuss the ranting . peace

Just an update. I watered all 60 plants tonight with nutes as you know. The first 30 were finished at about 6:00PM. They were droopy as hell before the watering. Now only 5 hours later they look to be at least 50% better. THIS IS GOOD. Now if these plants were droopy from being over-watered. Would they still perk-up after being watered again or get worse (more droopy)?

trenton said:

Just an update. I watered all 60 plants tonight with nutes as you know. The first 30 were finished at about 6:00PM. They were droopy as hell before the watering. Now only 5 hours later they look to be at least 50% better. THIS IS GOOD. Now if these plants were droopy from being over-watered. Would they still perk-up after being watered again or get worse (more droopy)?

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now go water them again.

Hey FDD is that bad if I wait untill the morning. I'm so tired I feel like I'm gonna dye. If you absoultely insist I will right now. You want me to water again with the same nutes and all (same ratio).

You Must Do It Now........................j/k

They are all evenly moist on top now but i do understand that there may be dry spots in the middle and what not.

trenton said:

Hey FDD is that bad if I wait untill the morning. I'm so tired I feel like I'm gonna dye. If you absoultely insist I will right now. You want me to water again with the same nutes and all (same ratio).

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do it NOW!!

just kidding.

yes i'd use the same solution. you want at least one good soaking to make sure the soil gets fully saturated. takes about 3 days for the leaves to turn dark green from the nitrogen so you don't want to feed to heavy to many times in a row until you figure this out. you can over water without problems just as long as they get a chance to dry out.

and they will dry out in no time with those lights..lots of lumenssssssssssssssss

lots of heat-----------------

alright t....things are going to start getting better for you soon....i know it...just hang in there