6 On 6 Off 6 On 6 Off Lighting Schedule, Ever Tried?

Sounds like a modified "gas lantern Technique"

As long as cannabis isn't getting 10.5 hrs continuous darkness (strains and chemotypes vary on this but 10.5 hrs dark will trigger most), then technically you're keeping them in veg

It'd be space weed. Like if the earth was twice as close to the sun as it is, with
a full day being 12 hours instead of 24. I heard alaskan cannabis is good because
of a 24 hour sun during it's summer. Any truth to that phenomenon? Got to be some
alaskan thunderfuckers in here somewhere.

newworldicon said:

Has anyone ever read, heard of or seen anything about this. Any thoughts or opinions on it?

6 hours on then 6 off, then 6 on then 6 off in a 24 hour day mimicking hopefully 2 days. What would it achieve? Maybe flower quicker..?! Would they hermie? Would it confuse them so much that they stay in veg or would it initiate the onset of flowering much quicker??

What do ya reckon????

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Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Master the basics.

u2penn said:

Stop trying to reinvent the wheel. Master the basics.

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These guys reinvented the wheel. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shark_Wheel

The earth's tidal system runs on 6-hour intervals linked to the moon, magnetic forces that keep the water of the earth whirling back and forth, the complex hub of channels used for nutrient uptake are hydraulic systems that have several factors that contribute to how well each individual nutrient uptakes, each nutrient has a preferred temperature, ph range, the tidal system also has an effect on different nutrients based on its electrical charge.

Indeed a plant requires the PR/PRF shift of at least 10 hours of darkness in order to initiate the flowering period, by doing the 6/6/6/6 compared overall the plant has a more balanced.....hmmm.....each nutrient has more time in "premium tidal uptake time" so to speak as opposed to the 18/6 where the plant may land its same nighttime on for example a negative tide shift on multiple nights in a row all which made it very hard for Nitrogen and Potassium but hard for, Phosphorous, you get the idea.

h2o 2 hydrogen are postive+ 1 oxygen negative-, water(h2o) has a slight +charge, if you run a negative electrical charge through water it will not freeze until -42,

Increases the efficiency of the supply and distribution network of nutrients within the electrical hydraulic system used by plants, I kinda see it like upgrading the "trucks" that deliver the goods, nothing more nothing less. probably increases growth overall 10-15%

Exbeginner said:

The earth's tidal system runs on 6-hour intervals linked to the moon, magnetic forces that keep the water of the earth whirling back and forth, the complex hub of channels used for nutrient uptake are hydraulic systems that have several factors that contribute to how well each individual nutrient uptakes, each nutrient has a preferred temperature, ph range, the tidal system also has an effect on different nutrients based on its electrical charge.

Indeed a plant requires the PR/PRF shift of at least 10 hours of darkness in order to initiate the flowering period, by doing the 6/6/6/6 compared overall the plant has a more balanced.....hmmm.....each nutrient has more time in "premium tidal uptake time" so to speak as opposed to the 18/6 where the plant may land its same nighttime on for example a negative tide shift on multiple nights in a row all which made it very hard for Nitrogen and Potassium but hard for, Phosphorous, you get the idea.

h2o 2 hydrogen are postive+ 1 oxygen negative-, water(h2o) has a slight +charge, if you run a negative electrical charge through water it will not freeze until -42,

Increases the efficiency of the supply and distribution network of nutrients within the electrical hydraulic system used by plants, I kinda see it like upgrading the "trucks" that deliver the goods, nothing more nothing less. probably increases growth overall 10-15%

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Huh?

Exbeginner said:

The earth's tidal system runs on 6-hour intervals linked to the moon, magnetic forces that keep the water of the earth whirling back and forth, the complex hub of channels used for nutrient uptake are hydraulic systems that have several factors that contribute to how well each individual nutrient uptakes, each nutrient has a preferred temperature, ph range, the tidal system also has an effect on different nutrients based on its electrical charge.

Indeed a plant requires the PR/PRF shift of at least 10 hours of darkness in order to initiate the flowering period, by doing the 6/6/6/6 compared overall the plant has a more balanced.....hmmm.....each nutrient has more time in "premium tidal uptake time" so to speak as opposed to the 18/6 where the plant may land its same nighttime on for example a negative tide shift on multiple nights in a row all which made it very hard for Nitrogen and Potassium but hard for, Phosphorous, you get the idea.

h2o 2 hydrogen are postive+ 1 oxygen negative-, water(h2o) has a slight +charge, if you run a negative electrical charge through water it will not freeze until -42,

Increases the efficiency of the supply and distribution network of nutrients within the electrical hydraulic system used by plants, I kinda see it like upgrading the "trucks" that deliver the goods, nothing more nothing less. probably increases growth overall 10-15%

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Do you have power crystals?

Lol

Exbeginner said:

probably increases growth overall 10-15%

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anything that proves this? or just a wild guess

Here's an interesting paper on Lunisolar-tidal effects on plants. Not sure about the nutrient uptake statements by @Exbeginner, but it's clear plants do indeed respond to it, but since the moon's orbit doesn't fit nicely with 24 hour day schedules, I'm not sure what the light schedule has to do with anything. Interesting nonetheless.

What I’m not getting is why 6/6/6/6? You’re only getting 12 hours of light but not triggering flower. Wouldn’t 3/9/3/9 be better, giving you 18 hours of light and 6 of darkness. Not sure I get the point really, if you want to go with tides would you use a 24 hour 50 minute day, like a tidal clock? I think we should all get really high and change our schedules to 3/9/3/9.83. That should do it, and I’ll know when the best fishing is by whether my lights are on or not. Genius

PopAndSonGrows said:

Sounds like a modified "gas lantern Technique"

As long as cannabis isn't getting 10.5 hrs continuous darkness (strains and chemotypes vary on this but 10.5 hrs dark will trigger most), then technically you're keeping them in veg

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Is there a reason not to maximize dark hrs? Do they need a certain amout of light to grow though 1hr darkness? Why not run a steady cycle of 2 on 6 off?

VaSmile said:

Is there a reason not to maximize dark hrs? Do they need a certain amout of light to grow though 1hr darkness? Why not run a steady cycle of 2 on 6 off?

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Depends on your goals, if r goal is to delay flower then you simply need to consistently interrupt the dark period.

If I understand right photosynthesis creating stored energy and absorb co2 during the light hrs then use that energy to grow when it's dark. So more darkness should equal faster growth until the growth outpaces the photosynthesis. It would be interesting to find what that ratio is( obviously genetics will make it somewhat varied)
On the flip side if I want to keep a mother alive in veg for a long time should I do low light 24hrs or 1 or 2 hrs of light after every 5 or 6 in the dark.

Yeah but with photoperiod plants, you need to consider what will trigger them into flower if again your goal is to delay that.

Hook Daddy said:

What I’m not getting is why 6/6/6/6? You’re only getting 12 hours of light but not triggering flower. Wouldn’t 3/9/3/9 be better, giving you 18 hours of light and 6 of darkness. Not sure I get the point really, if you want to go with tides would you use a 24 hour 50 minute day, like a tidal clock? I think we should all get really high and change our schedules to 3/9/3/9.83. That should do it, and I’ll know when the best fishing is by whether my lights are on or not. Genius

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OP. Why.

This would be unduly stressful to the plant, OP. Cannabis is the most light-sensitive plant known to science. If you change its evolution of expecting day and night in the length that's normal, it will react unpredictably, and I'd wager the weed would be traumatized, if it flowered at all. (I think it would flower out of confusion, and attempt to self-pollinate, as the world's ending from its perspective.)

Trey_Green said:

OP. Why.

This would be unduly stressful to the plant, OP. Cannabis is the most light-sensitive plant known to science. If you change its evolution of expecting day and night in the length that's normal, it will react unpredictably, and I'd wager the weed would be traumatized, if it flowered at all. (I think it would flower out of confusion, and attempt to self-pollinate, as the world's ending from its perspective.)

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This is not true. The gas lantern method is used to delay flowering with no recognized issue. Can you share the source for claiming marijuana is the most light sensitive plant known to man?

Theres nowhere on earth with 12 hours of day and 12 hours of night, much less for 10 plus weeks. The equinox being a brief exception. Marijuana grows differently in the highlands than the lowlands, hence the different leaf shapes and internodal spacing. There are a handful of people on the planet who actually try to meet the needs of the individual strain indoors, and even then, theres no evidence yet that it makes any difference.

I say fuck around and find out.

Tolerance Break said:

This is not true. The gas lantern method is used to delay flowering with no recognized issue. Can you share the source for claiming marijuana is the most light sensitive plant known to man?

Theres nowhere on earth with 12 hours of day and 12 hours of night, much less for 10 plus weeks. The equinox being a brief exception. Marijuana grows differently in the highlands than the lowlands, hence the different leaf shapes and internodal spacing. There are a handful of people on the planet who actually try to meet the needs of the individual strain indoors, and even then, theres no evidence yet that it makes any difference.

I say fuck around and find out.

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The gas lantern method? Lemme goog. Oh, cool. I don't do this. I work with high-risk cultivars, ones who are likely to herm. if pressured too much. I wouldn't say that your rebuttal proves I'm wrong about my observation that cannabis is a living organism that requires a healthy experience to really thrive. Life is sacred, all life, especially life that empowers our healing. I know they have a psychic connection to us, when we take the time to bond with them, and that they absorb intention which changes them. It's part of the reason Afghan weed is so powerful. The Sufis pray over the crop, to the One God, the Great Spirit, the Knower and the Truth. And before them, the Zoroastrians. Meanwhile, in India, similar practices empower their plants. So how you treat the plant truly matters, regardless of the limitations of scientific testing at present. Bruce Bugbee taught me that hemp responds more to sunlight than any known flora. It'll grow quicker the more you feed it, to ludicrous levels involving extra CO2 being pumped into the grow environment.

I couldn't agree more with experimentation, but to wake me up in the middle of the night to save on your light bill seems... unbalanced. I want to bathe these ladies, let them bask and stretch. I want to honor them as they honor me. There may never be hard evidence to justify what I believe. You need new eyes to see what I see at my best moments. However, if you love the plant by providing organic, living soil and never poison it with salty factory-ferts., you will get unrivaled flavor and intense, beautiful expressions unmatched by hydroponics. And the special terpenes are evident in the air itself, my friend. So honor your plants with luxury and a firm hand, and they will sing a special song for you. I'll pay a few extra dollars for my green friends.

Trey_Green said:

OP. Why.

This would be unduly stressful to the plant, OP. Cannabis is the most light-sensitive plant known to science. If you change its evolution of expecting day and night in the length that's normal, it will react unpredictably, and I'd wager the weed would be traumatized, if it flowered at all. (I think it would flower out of confusion, and attempt to self-pollinate, as the world's ending from its perspective.)

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