55% chance of Trump beating Clinton according to 538

Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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ttystikk said:
I'm a dad, and I don't want to see my daughter grow up with either Chump or Shillary as president.
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Nor do I, but that is the choice we must make.

Believe me, I loath her more than some Republicans as a person. But it does not matter anymore. It is a pareto-optimal choice.
 
Padawanbater2

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doublejj said:
I believe in Science......no Trump for me, too much at stake for this country. Comes from being older & not so immature & self centered
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The entire rest of the government save a few retarded republicans in congress is against Trump, nothing would get passed

I think it's immature and self centered to vote for a candidate that subverts democracy


I'm never having kids
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Padawanbater2 said:
If Trump wins, it will be because of the Clinton campaign and DNCs conduct during the primary
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Seriously Pad... is it news to you that the intra-party process is often unfair and messy and had frequently "subverted" the people? Hillary is not the first, or 15th. She has been dreaming and calculating for this all her life and has learned American politics in all of its facets. If I recall correctly, it incensed your feelings about democracy. Democracy, as we know it, survives this shit as long as people don't lose their heads and vote in a dictator.

In my belief we are close to doing that. If your vote might make a difference in your state, please think long and hard the next few months.
 
tangerinegreen555

tangerinegreen555

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Padawanbater2 said:
Thanks for your opinion

If Trump wins, it will be because of the Clinton campaign and DNCs conduct during the primary
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If Trump wins, it will be because he got more votes my friend.

And there goes the Supreme Court...on it's way to 6-3 to the right. Look at their ages and vacancies. What's more important? The next 4 years or the next 30? Life is a compromise.
 
doublejj

doublejj

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ttystikk said:
Newp. I didn't nominate him. I'm not voting for him. Not my responsibility to save the democratic party from its own excesses.

I get to vote for whom I please, and I do so with a clear conscience.

You can't say the same, can you? Of course not. That's why all the guilt trips.
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It's got nothing to do with saving the democratic party.......it's about saving the country.
 
Unclebaldrick

Unclebaldrick

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Padawanbater2 said:
The entire rest of the government save a few retarded republicans in congress is against Trump, nothing would get passed
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I think you are underestimating the possibility of a retard/opportunist coalition.

Padawanbater2 said:
I'm never having kids
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Don't be selfish when you are making this choice. I do not want my kid to learn about Noah's Ark in public school. You are so wrong about the risk.
 
see4

see4

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Padawanbater2 said:
Thanks for your opinion

If Trump wins, it will be because of the Clinton campaign and DNCs conduct during the primary
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A totally reasonable and valid argument.

However, shoulda-coulda-woulda doesn't help with progress. You would essentially be biting your own nose to spite your face.

I don't like Hillary. Not in the slightest. She will likely move to make more guns more difficult to get and she will likely do nothing to progress marijuana laws. And she will likely give us 4 more years of war. But with all that, she is still a better candidate than Trump.

I've still not been shown how Hillary is truly corrupt. Corruption, the provable kind, is punishable by law.
 
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