55% chance of Trump beating Clinton according to 538

Olive Drab Green

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I really like her, ideologically consistent anti-war anti-bailout. Cutting foreign aid to human rights abusers. Higher minimum (won't be necessary if debt burden is lowered by allowing banks to fail, so I'll give her a pass), blows out neo-cons during every interview, alternative energy jobs initiative, pretty much a squeaky clean vote. I just can't bare the thought of Hillary in the White House, so Trump is the evil of two lessers that I'll grunt it out and vote for. I wholly understand a third-party vote though, makes more sense now more than ever.

Here she is shitting on Fox News neo-con market-apologists, warmed my heart:
See, I don't get it, though. If you like her politics, which are seemingly left, why are you a Trump guy? I personally find Trump reprehensible and disgusting. I disagree with people who tend to think he's a good choice because he's "not a politician." He is a businessman, though, and men and women from both occupations/lifestyles speak money, very fluently, and that is the problem with the world today.
 

see4

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That's not how it works. If you vote for one over the other, you help one of them over the other.
Voting for a 3rd party isn't a vote for trump or clinton lol. It is kinda funny that people think a vote for Stein or Johnson will help elect trump. Maybe people are fed up with the choices? It's not on the public to vote for her, to stop trump. She's not trustworthy apparently.
Historically third party votes, if only had two options would vote Democrat. I am basing my assumption on historical polling figures.
 

see4

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I don't think you know what colluding means. Trump and Duke? Let me see some evidence. You realize the KKK have always historically been militant democrats, correct? Robert Byrd?
Your word game is silly. You are only fooling yourself and people dumb enough to believe your shit.

Ted Cruz is also owned by the exact same donor list as Clinton.
And to be honest, I would "consider" Cruz if he were the nominee.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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See, I don't get it, though. If you like her politics, which are seemingly left, why are you a Trump guy? I personally find Trump reprehensible and disgusting. I disagree with people who tend to think he's a good choice because he's "not a politician." He is a businessman, though, and men and women from both occupations/lifestyles speak money, very fluently, and that is the problem with the world today.
I have my share of doubts about Trump, but seeing the MSM colluding to shut him down is telling. Republicans hate him, democrats hate him, the only reason he's the nominee is because voters aren't buying the spin. I don't hate people because they have more money than I necessarily. The financial situation globally is a snowflake away from an avalanche, we definitely need someone that knows how to ski.

I really don't care about the KKK, that group is all but irrelevant in 2016. You might as well be talking about lizard people. Classic technique to silence dissenters, known as the Halo Effect. The KKK is a tool for manipulating voters over asinine race-based politics that serve only to deflect from policy issues. There are far more racist organizations than the KKK, none of which are ever talked about because the KKK is the coca-cola of racial political spin.
 

Olive Drab Green

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I have my share of doubts about Trump, but seeing the MSM colluding to shut him down is telling. Republicans hate him, democrats hate him, the only reason he's the nominee is because voters aren't buying the spin. I don't hate people because they have more money than I necessarily. The financial situation globally is a snowflake away from an avalanche, we definitely need someone that knows how to ski.

I really don't care about the KKK, that group is all but irrelevant in 2016. You might as well be talking about lizard people. Classic technique to silence dissenters, known as the Halo Effect. The KKK is a tool for manipulating voters over asinine race-based politics that serve only to deflect from policy issues. There are far more racist organizations than the KKK, none of which are ever talked about because the KKK is the coca-cola of racial political spin.
It's not about having more money than me. Where money goes, corruption follows. Money is the root of all evil. Doesn't mean he's even necessarily worse than the Republicans, themselves. He's his own kind of evil in my eyes. And he's bankrupted six times, I don't see how he'd help our financial situation. I know what would: Legalizing cannabis.
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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It's not about having more money than me. Where money goes, corruption follows. Money is the root of all evil. Doesn't mean he's even necessarily worse than the Republicans, themselves. He's his own kind of evil in my eyes. And he's bankrupted six times, I don't see how he'd help our financial situation. I know what would: Legalizing cannabis.
Legalizing cannabis is a start, but bankruptcy is what we need right now. He didn't go bust, he restructured debt to manageable levels. We're 19 trillion in debt, 500 billion a month just to service that debt. That needs restructured, having someone that knows how to restructure huge amounts of debt is an asset actually. And he's bankrupted 6 times out of 505 subsidiaries, that's almost godlike in terms of business management. You can't win 'em all, but he sure did win most of 'em.
 

testiclees

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you've literally typed paragraphs and paragraphs about robert byrd's one time membership in it 70 years ago though.

you make a liar out of yourself way too often.
more like 1000's of paragraphs touting his position on abortion/morality, foreign relations, macro and micro economics, race relations etc. It's all cringe inducing, gas baggery; the world according to Whitey McWhitebread*, Struggleville Pennsyltucky, Education: Certificate, Liberty Univ

*Mrs. Whitebread raised him according to the "how to raise a narcissist" methodology. At RIU he is hearing from adults that he's as dull and as easily discredited as the rest of his tribe.
 
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UncleBuck

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bankruptcy is what we need right now.
i guess when you're 17 years old and a virgin, it is difficult to understand that defaulting on our debt would be the most profoundly idiotic thing we could do right now.

that's almost godlike in terms of business management.
is the trump poster on your bedroom wall right next to the trey gowdy one? or is it next to david duke? or is it next to reagan?

pics please.
 

doublejj

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Legalizing cannabis is a start, but bankruptcy is what we need right now. He didn't go bust, he restructured debt to manageable levels. We're 19 trillion in debt, 500 billion a month just to service that debt. That needs restructured, having someone that knows how to restructure huge amounts of debt is an asset actually. And he's bankrupted 6 times out of 505 subsidiaries, that's almost godlike in terms of business management. You can't win 'em all, but he sure did win most of 'em.
Leave Social Security alone!o_O
 

Milliardo Peacecraft

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Social security is a fraud, once again boomers selling their kids down the river. We can't pay for this, everyone knows it. "These entitled kids nowadays, HEY DON'T TOUCH MY FREE MONEY". It's well known that SS pays far more out than a person contributes to it, this ponze scheme can only go on as long as you've got a labor market to support it. For social security to operate effectively, you need a labor market larger than the previous generation with higher wages. WHOOPS.
 

tangerinegreen555

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Social security is a fraud, once again boomers selling their kids down the river. We can't pay for this, everyone knows it. "These entitled kids nowadays, HEY DON'T TOUCH MY FREE MONEY". It's well known that SS pays far more out than a person contributes to it, this ponze scheme can only go on as long as you've got a labor market to support it. For social security to operate effectively, you need a labor market larger than the previous generation with higher wages. WHOOPS.
Fuck you. The depression put old people into poverty until FDR came along...

Don't like it? Don't sign up for it. Move to Belize. Bye.
 

ttystikk

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I have my share of doubts about Trump, but seeing the MSM colluding to shut him down is telling. Republicans hate him, democrats hate him, the only reason he's the nominee is because voters aren't buying the spin. I don't hate people because they have more money than I necessarily. The financial situation globally is a snowflake away from an avalanche, we definitely need someone that knows how to ski.

I really don't care about the KKK, that group is all but irrelevant in 2016. You might as well be talking about lizard people. Classic technique to silence dissenters, known as the Halo Effect. The KKK is a tool for manipulating voters over asinine race-based politics that serve only to deflect from policy issues. There are far more racist organizations than the KKK, none of which are ever talked about because the KKK is the coca-cola of racial political spin.
He's a sociopath with no skill or talent, with money or anything else. He's a classic example of the kind of asshole who's born so rich he spends (sperms! A fortuitous typo if ever there was one!) his life fucking with others because the system lets him get away with it.

And you're a fucking idiot for not seeing these facts plain as day, and worse, thinking he's going to have any interest at all in your needs while he's off playing pres.
 
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