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Johnny Retro

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And those 2 posts take the cake..my "ego" thinks your bat shit crazy.
Have a good night, and in the future if you read somthing you dont like, please, dont hurt yourself
 

Japanfreak

New Member
It's a shame that people are so willing to hurt their fellow man, and by being good little drug war bitches, by repeating the lies that the government puts out there to control, they are hurting their peers.
 

high|hgih

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Well, I am starting to see your fear of DMT now. As the material looks like meth I guess... And you have experience of meth heads.
However water looks like vodka, is administered in the same way, yet has very diffirent effects. (none)

A good way of checking a substance on the good/bad list is to check for religious movements useing it.
There are DMT churches, Rastas use weed, red indians use cacti (mescaline), many cultures have religious use of mushrooms, but I have yet to see a crack or meth church.
Ever think there isn't a meth church because of people like you? Meth got a really bad rat, I have done it a couple times.. it was nothing crazy honestly.. I mean I was up for about 3 days, it wasn't intense until that 3 days of no sleep.. Nothing scared me though or would have made me go insane... I kind of just talked to fast, and watched walls melt and people were walking on the walls, that was from sleep deprivation.. Meth is just like out of whack speed.. It wouldn't be such a big deal if people didn't make it such a big deal. Plus its just the drug, people will suck dicks for meth, I don't think any religious church would support that.. And if they had free meth laying out, some crazy meth head would steal it all.. If it was a church of TRUSTED meth users.. Hell if america had an LSD church that was open to public, there would still be selfish snobs who went there wouldn't there? Some scavengers would take all your LSD and more, just so they can have it all and you can't.. Those cultures are based around trusting each other, we can't do that here.. If some church opened in tibet or something for meth, and all monks went and did prayer while under the influence of meth, it wouldn't be viewed as bad by them.. Plus going through those sketch speed dealers would put me on the edge too.
 

Japanfreak

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not propaganda, little buddy. seen it and experienced it.
If you know anybody who was crazy after meth you knew somebody who was crazy before meth.


[FONT=arial, helvetica]"For those who still remain unconvinced as a result of this clarification, we can look to Japan for answers. They invented meth in 1919 and endured an epidemic of abuse during the post-war American Occupation the likes of which this country will hopefully never have to experience. Like most of the major combatants in World War II, the Japanese pumped amphetamines down the throats of soldiers and industrial workers. At the end of the war, huge stockpiles were found in cities all over the country. The quantity of the drug was exceeded only by the quality. Unlike the present day American meth - manufactured in clandestine labs with shortcut recipes and then laced with adulterants - the Japanese counterpart was synthesized in government facilities under the strictest quality controls. With the exception of Korean and Taiwanese free base, more commonly known as "Ice", it is probably the most potent meth ever produced.[/FONT]
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[FONT=arial, helvetica]More importantly, the subsequent research on the drug, like their meth, was untainted by politics. A thirty-year timeframe along with huge cross sections of research on sub-populations make for ideal longitudinal studies, the consensus of which was: that in cases where permanent schizophrenia and psychoses has been attributed to addiction, it appears that the underlying ailment was either latent or had existed all along and the meth use had simply exacerbated the symptoms to a degree where it could be finally diagnosed."


But again, I understand that people will blame meth because they have been told they can. The government makes the same claims that weed will drive you crazy, and indeed people with
[/FONT][FONT=arial, helvetica] schizophrenia shouldn't smoke weed. [/FONT]
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DarthD3vl

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Methamphetamine (METH) causes irreversible damage to brain cells leading to neurological and psychiatric abnormalities. However, the mechanisms underlying life-threatening effects of acute METH intoxication remain unclear. Indeed, most of the hypotheses focused on intra-neuronal events, such as dopamine oxidation, oxidative stress and excitotoxicity. Yet, recent reports suggested that glia may contribute to METH-induced neuropathology. In the present study, we investigated the hippocampal dysfunction induced by an acute high dose of METH (30 mg/kg; intraperitoneal injection), focusing on the inflammatory process and changes in several neuronal structural proteins. For that, 3-month-old male wild-type C57BL/6J mice were killed at different time-points post-METH. We observed that METH caused an inflammatory response characterized by astrocytic and microglia reactivity, and tumor necrosis factor (TNF) system alterations. Indeed, glial fibrillary acidic protein (GFAP) and CD11b immunoreactivity were upregulated, likewise TNF-α and TNF receptor 1 protein levels. Furthermore, the effect of METH on hippocampal neurons was also investigated, and we observed a downregulation in beta III tubulin expression. To clarify the possible neuronal dysfunction induced by METH, several neuronal proteins were analysed. Syntaxin-1, calbindin D28k and tau protein levels were downregulated, whereas synaptophysin was upregulated. We also evaluated whether an anti-inflammatory drug could prevent or diminish METH-induced neuroinflammation, and we concluded that indomethacin (10 mg/kg; i.p.) prevented METH-induced glia activation and both TNF system and beta III tubulin alterations. In conclusion, we demonstrated that METH triggers an inflammatory process and leads to neuronal dysfunction in the hippocampus, which can be prevented by an anti-inflammatory treatment.
thingy i found , done in portugal this year
 

Johnny Retro

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You are stupid if you dont think certain drugs in mass amounts will make one crazy..really stupid. ive seen it first hand, i didnt get it from some article off the internet lol.
Ever heard of sid barret?
 

The Cryptkeeper

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Meth does not cause irreversible brain damage. That's like saying driving a car causes broken bones. You can drive a car, and you may crash, and your bones may break, but it was you faul for misusing the the car. Eh.... I grow weary of this discussion, again.
 

DarthD3vl

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In conclusion, we demonstrated that METH triggers an inflammatory process and leads to neuronal dysfunction in the hippocampus, which can be prevented by an anti-inflammatory treatment.

thats what there saying that take some inflamitory drugs and meth is perfectly safe, SAFE, if your a mouse at least
 

The Cryptkeeper

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You are stupid if you dont think certain drugs in mass amounts will make one crazy..really stupid. ive seen it first hand, i didnt get it from some article off the internet lol.
Ever heard of sid barret?
I've heard of Syd Barret. ;) He had mental issues even as a child. :) Drugs may be a catalyst but they aren't the underlying issue. :D
 

Japanfreak

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You are stupid if you dont think certain drugs in mass amounts will make one crazy..really stupid. ive seen it first hand, i didnt get it from some article off the internet lol.
Like I said, if you know somebody who was crazy after drugs they were crazy before them. You can argue with science if you like, you can call me stupid if you like, doesn't change reality. The reality is you have crazy people around you, inbreeding would be a better choice than drugs if you're looking for the cause.
 

DarthD3vl

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Meth does not cause irreversible brain damage. That's like saying driving a car causes broken bones. You can drive a car, and you may crash, and your bones may break, but it was you faul for misusing the the car. Eh.... I grow weary of this discussion, again.
you argue with scientist who are saying that brain damage caused by meth (that does exist according to science) is easily avoided in mice with some inflamatory drugs, i dont see the point
 

Japanfreak

New Member
In conclusion, we demonstrated that METH triggers an inflammatory process and leads to neuronal dysfunction in the hippocampus, which can be prevented by an anti-inflammatory treatment.

thats what there saying that take some inflamitory drugs and meth is perfectly safe, SAFE, if your a mouse at least
But they are shooting drugs into the animal's brains right?
 

Johnny Retro

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So, your telling me, if you took LSD for 5 years straight, everyday, You would not go crazy? Keep in mind everyday youd have to double the dose
 
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